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On August 04 2011 20:01 pookadin wrote:
This may shed some light on why FruitDealer has been struggling? How can he focus seriously when he thinks he is being swindled by his own Team...
In the original article, it seemed like FD has only himself to blame for his poor conduct. Which lead to the friction between the team and FD. SC2 association was asking for FD and Trickster to reform their act and redeem themselves with proper conduct.
As for the amount not being paid for, I believe it is about 6000 dollar US for about 45 days of salary and G skille ads.
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I actually feel so bad about having criticized Eg at the time.
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So what does this mean for TSL as a team?
As far as tournaments and playing in events and such goes, as well as recruiting new players.
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On August 04 2011 20:10 Taryssa wrote:
So what does this mean for TSL as a team?
As far as tournaments and playing in events and such goes, as well as recruiting new players.
So probably nothing (at this point) as it appears that Slayers is not part of the group either, but it does shed more negative light on TSL, so players are probably not looking to join them...
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On August 04 2011 20:10 Taryssa wrote:
So what does this mean for TSL as a team?
As far as tournaments and playing in events and such goes, as well as recruiting new players.
as far as I know, nothing changed. For instance, team slayers is not with SC2 association and I dont see it being a limiting factor in anyways for them.
However, this has got to have some sort of effect on current TSL player. Wait for full translation for more details.
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On August 04 2011 20:10 Taryssa wrote:
So what does this mean for TSL as a team?
As far as tournaments and playing in events and such goes, as well as recruiting new players.
Nothing will happens to them in terms of tournament, like Slayers is not even part of this SC2 council, and they still playing GSTL and GSL.
In terms of sponsors, they may get less money from sponsors.
I don't think this would really affect recruiting new players, they just got 3 new players, neel, raknarog and ultimate (he lost to boxer in the final round in the qualifier)
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On August 04 2011 19:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:38 -Archangel- wrote:On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because? Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest. No he made a big deal about EG approaching the player without contacting coach lee, the manager first, he doesn't hate the fact that Puma leaving the team, he hates people approaching his players behind his back. Hell, he even threw a leaving party for Puma, he even wished him the best of luck in the last interview even though he wasn't directly asked about the matter. Makes your fact straight before saying anything
... And after that went public and BMed EG & Puma !
He said that EGs conduct was not respectful etc ... Well how respectful is lying to your players, and cheating them out of money while depriving them of making a living off of sc2 ( Because as EG said Lee would have never let Puma go ( or if he did for an insane transfer fee ) if they would have contacted him instead of Puma.
Of course this needs to be confirmed but if it is indeed true then this is just so hypocritical and more importantly very sad for the TSL players. The way I see it is manager(s) getting a bunch of young kids, giving them a good fun environment, being friendly etc ... so the players, who keep in mind are basically kids, are happy and unaware of what is really going on. Just so they can pocket the sponsor money ( after paying for the houses expenses, obviously ).
Im glad for Puma btw ! Im pretty sure he would have been bullied/conned out of his NASL winnings just like clyde and ( I forget ) gave their earnings back to the house to pay for expenses ! Of course they did so of their own free will but think how easy it is for a manager, their mentor & boss & friend who ( im sure they were reminded ) they owe everything, to guilt trip/con them into giving their money back ! Very easy !
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Coach Lee has been talking about not being able to make good on his promises to FD and Trickster. I guess they wasn't as understanding as he hoped.
I wonder how the sponsors of TSL will take this news, it would be a tough blow for the team if they lost a sponsorship now.
The SCV life seems to be a hard one at the moment.
However, the need for a proper translation can't be stressed enough.
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On August 04 2011 20:16 Jiddra wrote:
Coach Lee has been talking about not being able to make good on his promises to FD and Trickster. I guess they wasn't as understanding as he hoped.
I wonder how the sponsors of TSL will take this news, it would be a tough blow for the team if they lost a sponsorship now.
The SCV life seems to be a hard one at the moment.
However, the need for a proper translation can't be stressed enough.
The promise you're talking about maybe the promise that coach lee will keep the team unites (in the Puma leaving interview) after FD and tester left.
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more story is coming out. for whoever wants to translate
http://sc2tsl.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=61&wr_id=2016&page=0&sca=&sfl=&stx=&sst=&sod=&spt=0&page=0
IMO, both FD, Trickster and TSL coach lied each other a bit. I want to write down a brief summary of how I perceive it went down, just in case, noone wants to translate. Don't hold me accountable or anything but I will try to cover every bases.
- TSL wanting to rebuild
- FD and Trickster definitely not wanting to be part of the rebuild. TSL claims FD and Trickster were really a non team player (that's being generous) during the whole ordeal.
- TSL coach and some of the team members decided to withhold pay for both of them for about 30~45 days. (depends on which side you want to believe). And since TSL was in bad financial shape, they decided to use that money on team. (TSL was loaning money from Bank for living expense at that time)
- Also they might have lied to FD and Trickster that they were not getting the sponsor money during this period.
- FD and Trickster bring this matter to SC2 association.
- SC2 association tells FD and Trickster to act properly like a professional. and tells TSL to pay up. or Out
- however this decision came about without listening to TSL's side.
- SC2 association initially said there would be no appeal to this case but then they changed their minds.
- TSL decided to part ways with SC2 association anyways.
IMO, pretty amateurish conduct by everyone involved. Anyway, this is basically what's out so far. Maybe there is more to this story and someone else will pick it up from there.
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On August 04 2011 21:05 Yemack wrote:more story is coming out. for whoever wants to translate http://sc2tsl.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=61&wr_id=2016&page=0&sca=&sfl=&stx=&sst=&sod=&spt=0&page=0IMO, both FD, Trickster and TSL coach lied each other a bit. I want to write down a brief summary of how I perceive it went down, just in case, noone wants to translate. Don't hold me accountable or anything but I will try to cover every bases. - TSL wanting to rebuild - FD and Trickster definitely not wanting to be part of the rebuild. TSL claims FD and Trickster were really a non team player (that's being generous) during the whole ordeal. - TSL coach and some of the team members decided to withhold pay for both of them for about 30~45 days. (depends on which side you want to believe). And since TSL was in bad financial shape, they decided to use that money on team. (TSL was loaning money from Bank for living expense at that time) - Also they might have lied to FD and Trickster that they were not getting the sponsor money during this period. - FD and Trickster bring this matter to SC2 association. - SC2 association tells FD and Trickster to act properly like a professional. and tells TSL to pay up. or Out - however this decision came about without listening to TSL's side. - SC2 association initially said there would be no appeal to this case but then they changed their minds. - TSL decided to part ways with SC2 association anyways. IMO, pretty amateurish conduct by everyone involved. Anyway, this is basically what's out so far. Maybe there is more to this story and someone else will pick it up from there.
AGREED. I think everyone needs to be able to put this into perspective. -__-
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