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On August 04 2011 19:19 ggyu89 wrote:Hi, I'm Korean Australian. I've been reading about it. http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=3252008It is indeed very big news. Better version of translation will be up later on by Milkis probably. Basically, it's telling us that, TSL is removed from Korean SC2 Organization. Few reasons are listed, one of the main reason was TSL coach was lying to their players about incomes from their sponsorships for player salaries. Which was provided properly by their sponsors. TSL coach however lied and did not pay the correct (or not paid) the salary to TSL players. This is basic idea of what happened, I'm sorry it is paraphrased a lot, but that is the main point of the article. As I mentioned, better version of translation will be up later, because it is HUGE news in SC2 community. Edit: typos
I know you want to break the news to people and I dont want to sound like EG but in the article there were some allegation against FD and Trickster which you clearly left out.
I dont think being removed from SC2 association is as big as some might think. For instance, Slayers are not in SC2 association for whatever reason as well.
However, it looks very shrewd move by TSL coach. No matter what kind of conduct FD and Trickster were responsible, not paying the full salary promised is just bad.
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On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because?
Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest.
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haha coach lee "I wish puma came to me first"
well when you lie to them, that generally isn't good for your trust.
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On August 04 2011 19:19 ggyu89 wrote:Hi, I'm Korean Australian. I've been reading about it. http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=3252008It is indeed very big news. Better version of translation will be up later on by Milkis probably. + Show Spoiler +Basically, it's telling us that, TSL is removed from Korean SC2 Organization.
Few reasons are listed, one of the main reason was TSL coach was lying to their players about incomes from their sponsorships for player salaries. Which was provided properly by their sponsors. TSL coach however lied and did not pay the correct (or not paid) the salary to TSL players.
This is basic idea of what happened, I'm sorry it is paraphrased a lot, but that is the main point of the article. As I mentioned, better version of translation will be up later, because it is HUGE news in SC2 community.
Edit: typos
This changes everything. I assume EG actually knew about this too?
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On August 04 2011 19:38 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because? Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest.
No he made a big deal about EG approaching the player without contacting coach lee, the manager first, he doesn't hate the fact that Puma leaving the team, he hates people approaching his players behind his back. Hell, he even threw a leaving party for Puma, he even wished him the best of luck in the last interview even though he wasn't directly asked about the matter. Makes your fact straight before saying anything
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On August 04 2011 19:44 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:38 -Archangel- wrote:On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because? Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest. No he made a big deal about EG approaching the player without contacting coach lee, the manager first, he doesn't hate the fact that Puma leaving the team, he hates people approaching his players behind his back. Hell, he even threw a leaving party for Puma, he even wished him the best of luck in the last interview even though he wasn't directly asked about the matter. Makes your fact straight before saying anything
It is about honor in the end, and this guy possible has none so EG were not the bad guys in that case.
You know what they say: "let the man without sin throw the first stone."
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On August 04 2011 19:35 Philosophy wrote:
So EG were the good guys.
i just hope that all the EG supportesr(vs the TSL coach supporters) don't are gonna spam/shout "HAHAHA SUP FOOLS?" because of the situation, hopefully there won't be anymore drama(that was so pointless)
who am i kidding, as soon as this gets out, we will have another flamewar 
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On August 04 2011 19:47 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:44 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:38 -Archangel- wrote:On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because? Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest. No he made a big deal about EG approaching the player without contacting coach lee, the manager first, he doesn't hate the fact that Puma leaving the team, he hates people approaching his players behind his back. Hell, he even threw a leaving party for Puma, he even wished him the best of luck in the last interview even though he wasn't directly asked about the matter. Makes your fact straight before saying anything It is about honor in the end, and this guy possible has none so EG were not the bad guys in that case. You know what they say: "let the man without sin throw the first stone."
This doesn't really make sense. You're saying because TSL might have a big problem, EG automatically regains honor for approaching players behind the teams backs?
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On August 04 2011 19:47 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:44 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:38 -Archangel- wrote:On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because? Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest. No he made a big deal about EG approaching the player without contacting coach lee, the manager first, he doesn't hate the fact that Puma leaving the team, he hates people approaching his players behind his back. Hell, he even threw a leaving party for Puma, he even wished him the best of luck in the last interview even though he wasn't directly asked about the matter. Makes your fact straight before saying anything It is about honor in the end, and this guy possible has none so EG were not the bad guys in that case. You know what they say: "let the man without sin throw the first stone."
Well... can't say anything for sure yet. But even if this is true, it doesn't change the EG situation if EG didn't know about any of this.
At the same time, if this is true, than you can say Rekrul was completely right haha.
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And why the fuck does everyone bring this EG shit out here again, this has nothing to do with it, regardless of how the results from this could have changed the EG case, IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AT THIS POINT
At least let our translators give us a decent translation before you guys say anything prematurel because i don't think the translations above are even reliable judging from how ggyu89 missed a part of the threads.
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On August 04 2011 19:47 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:44 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:38 -Archangel- wrote:On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because? Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest. No he made a big deal about EG approaching the player without contacting coach lee, the manager first, he doesn't hate the fact that Puma leaving the team, he hates people approaching his players behind his back. Hell, he even threw a leaving party for Puma, he even wished him the best of luck in the last interview even though he wasn't directly asked about the matter. Makes your fact straight before saying anything It is about honor in the end, and this guy possible has none so EG were not the bad guys in that case. You know what they say: "let the man without sin throw the first stone."
Because this guy doesn't have 'honor' doesn't mean the other guy is good guy. I mean, I don't even have to explain it to you if you think about it.
Besides, you are assuming what ggyu89 wrote is the truth. Which is not 100% actually. I knew when ggyu89 paraphrased only the part he wanted, it would lead to this.
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People would be smart to wait for the full article translation before jumping to any conclusions.
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I am eagerly awaiting the translation..
I am a big TSL fan and also a big FruitDealer fan..the bits I could understand using Google Translate were shocking enough..
...To think Coach Lee was withholding money from the team?!
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On August 04 2011 19:47 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 19:44 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:38 -Archangel- wrote:On August 04 2011 19:31 brachester wrote:On August 04 2011 19:27 Trumpet wrote:
Oh man, I can't help but laugh if that summary is true.
So much for "honor and respect"
thanks in advance to any translator, and I hope this helps take some of the heat off EG/Puma This has anything to do with that because? Because TSL coach made a big deal about Puma leaving while he himself is possibly dishonest. No he made a big deal about EG approaching the player without contacting coach lee, the manager first, he doesn't hate the fact that Puma leaving the team, he hates people approaching his players behind his back. Hell, he even threw a leaving party for Puma, he even wished him the best of luck in the last interview even though he wasn't directly asked about the matter. Makes your fact straight before saying anything It is about honor in the end, and this guy possible has none so EG were not the bad guys in that case. You know what they say: "let the man without sin throw the first stone."
I also like
"it is like the pot calling the kettle black"
But i am going to wait tell at least we get a translation from Milkis, want to get the full story tell i make any judgements at least. From that translation though it is looking real bad for TSL.
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Wow...very interesting turn of events for TSL.
Translators - make sure you get sign off from Alex Garfield before translating anything
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Actually it changes everything because a guy that was crying for the attitude EG took, did something much worse to his own players!
You are a lier and cheater! You say you love and protect your players when in fact you cheat them out of their hard earned money! These guys play for 10 hours a day live without any privacy and real life besides their work and their coach cheats them out of money???
In my book thats 10x worse then hiring a player and pay them what they deserve even if they "steal" it from another team..
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It amuses me that as soon as someone leaves a team, someone is going to suggest "Liquid'[insert name here]"
OT though, this is sad for TSL. It seems like many players are ditching them at the moment.
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On August 04 2011 19:59 shell wrote:
Actually it changes everything because a guy that was crying for the attitude EG took, did something much worse to his own players!
You are a lier and cheater! You say you love and protect your players when in fact you cheat them out of their hard earned money! These guys play for 10 hours a day live without any privacy and real life besides their work and their coach cheats them out of money???
In my book thats 10x worse then hiring a player and pay them what they deserve even if they "steal" it from another team..
People these days, assuming everything they heard is right without investigate it properly, WE DON"T EVEN HAVE A BLOODY PROPER TRANSLATION YET!!!!! -_-
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This may shed some light on why FruitDealer has been struggling? How can he focus seriously when he thinks he is being swindled by his own Team...
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On August 04 2011 20:01 pookadin wrote:
This may shed some light on why FruitDealer has been struggling? How can he focus seriously when he thinks he is being swindled by his own Team...
Actually he admitted it himself that he doesn't practice much, go skiing instead, so yeah, that's the reason why he's been underperforming
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