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On June 25 2011 03:53 moose162 wrote:
Lol at all the Fruitdealer hate. He hasn't done anything since the first GSL? I suppose that's correct...But he's been in Code S every single season. How many players can say that?
like 70% of the current S class?
isnt OGSTheWind still it? if so, he's been there since the beginning, and he's just more or less messing around.
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Where they gonna go?!?! So exciting~
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NOOOO i picked TSL for the fantasy gstl
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Those were the 2 highest payed players on the team. Do you think the team stopped paying its players or something? it sounds like TSL is falling apart. I hope trickster and fruitdealer get on another great korean team ^^
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i hope they join an international team, they are pretty popular players
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On June 25 2011 02:20 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 01:28 ALang wrote:
Thing is with TSL they were getting salaries and their housing/food paid for... and income tax in Korea is nothing. On top of that, they got income from each GSL by staying in Code S. There isn't nearly enough money outside Korea (that they can actually win) to make up to difference, unless a foreign team wants to pay a huge salary.
They are no longer top players... Tester made his name in the beta and has done nothing and FruitDealer has done nothing since the first GSL. Younger teams could use them as coaches but other than that their places in SC2 seem rather vague at the moment. That's what I thought. When it was formed it was lined with sponsors. Did TSL want to stray away from the casual approach FD and Tester wanted? Their attitude comes off as lazy; I like that they want more free time and not be slaves like in BW, but I don't know it just does. I don't care about Tester anymore and never did for FD. Oh he got a lucky run to the finals and got an opponent he was 90% sure he'd stomp. Undeserved hype. TSL is a bust anyway. It was thought it'd be a powerhouse team, but they never deliver and somehow still cling onto their spots in the GSL.
FruitDealer was the best player in the world in GSL Season 1. Even Idra was acknowleging his skill at the time.
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On June 25 2011 04:05 LuckyMacro wrote:
Maybe they can start an army/airforce/navy sc2 team ala boxer =D
Dude don't compare these " progamers " to boxer lol
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On June 25 2011 04:06 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 03:53 moose162 wrote:
Lol at all the Fruitdealer hate. He hasn't done anything since the first GSL? I suppose that's correct...But he's been in Code S every single season. How many players can say that? like 70% of the current S class? isnt OGSTheWind still it? if so, he's been there since the beginning, and he's just more or less messing around.
Nope. TheWind is in Code A now. Makes me wonder if that 70% number is equally uninformed.
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On June 25 2011 04:14 lunchforthesky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 02:20 Ownos wrote:On June 25 2011 01:28 ALang wrote:
Thing is with TSL they were getting salaries and their housing/food paid for... and income tax in Korea is nothing. On top of that, they got income from each GSL by staying in Code S. There isn't nearly enough money outside Korea (that they can actually win) to make up to difference, unless a foreign team wants to pay a huge salary.
They are no longer top players... Tester made his name in the beta and has done nothing and FruitDealer has done nothing since the first GSL. Younger teams could use them as coaches but other than that their places in SC2 seem rather vague at the moment. That's what I thought. When it was formed it was lined with sponsors. Did TSL want to stray away from the casual approach FD and Tester wanted? Their attitude comes off as lazy; I like that they want more free time and not be slaves like in BW, but I don't know it just does. I don't care about Tester anymore and never did for FD. Oh he got a lucky run to the finals and got an opponent he was 90% sure he'd stomp. Undeserved hype. TSL is a bust anyway. It was thought it'd be a powerhouse team, but they never deliver and somehow still cling onto their spots in the GSL. FruitDealer was the best player in the world in GSL Season 1. Even Idra was acknowleging his skill at the time.
and idra is going great right now? look from what Ive heard from Fruitdealer's interview. He said he doesnt practice 10 or w.e hours per day that usual sc2 ppl practice. He said he only put only 3 hours? Seriously though, if u dont have time to play for the sc2. then dont. If you still wanna be top player. put effort and practice like others.
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On June 25 2011 04:06 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 03:53 moose162 wrote:
Lol at all the Fruitdealer hate. He hasn't done anything since the first GSL? I suppose that's correct...But he's been in Code S every single season. How many players can say that? like 70% of the current S class? isnt OGSTheWind still it? if so, he's been there since the beginning, and he's just more or less messing around.
16/32 is not 70%
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Hmmmmmmm I really wan't to know whats going on behind the scenes. What are the changes that TSL is making and also what are the possible reasons they way to compete in usa tournaments more. Easy money?
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Welp never liked anyone on TSL other than Tester and Cool so go whatever team they land on!
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On June 25 2011 04:21 Haustka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 04:14 lunchforthesky wrote:On June 25 2011 02:20 Ownos wrote:On June 25 2011 01:28 ALang wrote:
Thing is with TSL they were getting salaries and their housing/food paid for... and income tax in Korea is nothing. On top of that, they got income from each GSL by staying in Code S. There isn't nearly enough money outside Korea (that they can actually win) to make up to difference, unless a foreign team wants to pay a huge salary.
They are no longer top players... Tester made his name in the beta and has done nothing and FruitDealer has done nothing since the first GSL. Younger teams could use them as coaches but other than that their places in SC2 seem rather vague at the moment. That's what I thought. When it was formed it was lined with sponsors. Did TSL want to stray away from the casual approach FD and Tester wanted? Their attitude comes off as lazy; I like that they want more free time and not be slaves like in BW, but I don't know it just does. I don't care about Tester anymore and never did for FD. Oh he got a lucky run to the finals and got an opponent he was 90% sure he'd stomp. Undeserved hype. TSL is a bust anyway. It was thought it'd be a powerhouse team, but they never deliver and somehow still cling onto their spots in the GSL. FruitDealer was the best player in the world in GSL Season 1. Even Idra was acknowleging his skill at the time. and idra is going great right now? look from what Ive heard from Fruitdealer's interview. He said he doesnt practice 10 or w.e hours per day that usual sc2 ppl practice. He said he only put only 3 hours? Seriously though, if u dont have time to play for the sc2. then dont. If you still wanna be top player. put effort and practice like others.
Who on earth are you responding to, it's definitely not me. Idra's level of play has nothing to do with anything, he's clearly a knowledgeable guy about the game and he said that Cool was the best player in the world during Season 1, and given the fact FruitDealer won the tournament crushing Terran's everywhere while Terran was considered hugely overpowered by everyone shows that in Season 1 FruitDealer was the best player in the world.
What came after has nothing at all to do with what I was responding to it my quote.
The funny thing is, that FruitDealer might never practice but he's still better than basically every Zerg out there besides a few handful of Koreans.
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I think TSL is the time for a change. Kim Won a team-based player in the desired direction and seogisu to break the heart was different. Gimwongi seogisu players in domestic and foreign competition is expected in the propaganda. TSL is also going to be a team effort is more.
Yes, Wonki and Ki Soo you guys have both broken my heart. 
I'm so sad. TSL fighting~
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On June 24 2011 20:05 xuanzue wrote:i think this is a better tranlastion Show nested quote +On June 24 2011 19:58 redloser wrote:TSL tweet @ http://twitter.com/#!/tsl_korea"TSL needs to reform. Trickster and FD disagreed with the direction we are heading, so they chose to leave the team. We wish good luck for them in their tournaments. TSL would be paying more efforts." or sth like that.
thank you
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On June 25 2011 04:11 Maliris wrote:
i hope they join an international team, they are pretty popular players
For those speculating about these two wanting to participate in more foreigner tournaments, get this:
The only two Koreans on TSL who DIDN'T sign up for the NASL qualifiers were FD and SSKS.
This situation smells like TSL wanting to improve and buckle down with a tougher practice regimen to get better results, and these two just balked and backed out.
Honestly, if these two have the mindsets that we're all speculating about (that they don't want to practice that much), then I can't see any team that would be interested in picking them up. The heavily sponsored teams that are serious about results and competition will likely see these two as cancers, and I doubt they would join some insignificant team with no sponsors/salary. All the foreign teams are starting to understand how important a "Korean" practice regimen and mindset is with all of the recent Korean domination. EG is setting up a serious team house, FXO was willing to move to Korea, and I'm sure more foreign teams have plans to do similar things. Picking up these two guys would be the absolute worst message a team can send out.
Although, who knows. If Artosis was willing to roll the dice on Princess, anything can happen. 
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someone should sign trickster
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So do we have any update on this, any reason ?
If I had to speculate, I'd say that FD and Tester are now burden for the team, they must have high salaries and have no real value anymore, so TSL just kicked them out ?
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On June 25 2011 03:42 Drazzyo wrote:
it would be cool to see fruitdealer join ogs and see ogs become a powerhouse
Fruit and Tester (+ Rainbow) were part of the original members of oGs before they left to create TSL (and Startale).
I also agree this feels basically like retirement situation or they will play until they are eliminated from Code S. I don't see any other reason to leave the only real salaried team in Korea (where FD was making the most) to join some other team...unless they find some other team that is even more "relaxed".
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On June 25 2011 04:06 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 03:53 moose162 wrote:
Lol at all the Fruitdealer hate. He hasn't done anything since the first GSL? I suppose that's correct...But he's been in Code S every single season. How many players can say that? like 70% of the current S class? isnt OGSTheWind still it? if so, he's been there since the beginning, and he's just more or less messing around.
Just checked the jan code S, 17 of the original have been knocked down to code a, though some of them did return. So the percentage is more like 46% .
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