On June 15 2011 09:25 Emporio wrote:
So here's a question:

If Rain does join a true foreigners team (let's just say fnatic for this example), meaning he leaves the TSL house and trains only with the fnatic guys, but still lives in Korea, and then proceeds to do really well in GSL or even just stays in Code S with no notable results while he sweeps up foreign tournaments like MLG and NASL, is this a win for foreign SC2 or just another example of Korean dominance?

Reposting my question

Werk

United States294 Posts

June 15 2011 04:20 GMT

#423

Agreed FXO would be a great choice for Rain as they do both Korean events and MLG and other foreigner events. Perhaps Rain will be the first Korean to escape the GSL and enter more online tournies in NA?

masterbreti

Korea (South)2711 Posts

June 15 2011 04:30 GMT

#424

On June 15 2011 13:17 Ruscour wrote:
ReignRain, they still have 2 unannounced players apparently, let's see ReignRain happen fo sho.

Only problem is that Reign players are required to live in america. Rain right now has GSL. It would be a huge risk for him to give up GSL for online tournaments.

StyLeD

United States2965 Posts

June 15 2011 04:49 GMT

#425

On June 15 2011 13:19 Emporio wrote:

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Reposting my question

That's never going to happen. If he trains with the fnatic guys only, he'd be ignoring all the friends and training partners in Korea built from his TSL days, which is 100% not going to happen.

Say he moves to the US or Europe and then trains only on the EU or with fnatic guys, then if he succeeds, people will attribute that to his Korean background, and if he loses alot, then they will say he was never a good player.

Staying in Code S itself is a notable result. If he starts owning NASL and MLG, then again it will be because he has Korean training.

Talin

Montenegro10532 Posts

June 15 2011 05:23 GMT

#426

On June 15 2011 10:02 Golgotha wrote:

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very true. it is just easy to overlook him when you compare him to the other koreans he plays against. but against our foreigners.......heck even Moon who isn't even Code A beat out most foreigners.

Determining which player is better by who's in Code S and some GSL Open finals run way back in the dark age of SC2 is an extremely... shallow way to look at things.

Moon is better than Rain now. So is DongRaeGu, by multiple orders of magnitude. Probably a couple more solid players outside Code A currently (Taeja, etc), and obviously a bunch of people in Code A play better than him.

Rain has average mechanics and looks quite shaky every time he tries to play a long game, and that's even in his "good" matchup. There's absolutely nothing in his gameplay that indicates he's particularly talented either, any more than the next guy on a Korean pro team.

I would put him in the Rainbow/Check/FruitDealer category of players right now, and that's being generous. They all actually have some impressive showings in televised games, Rain has games against mvp that he lost as the prime highlight of his skill, and even that wasn't some mind blowing gameplay (obviously). Everyone in that group easily matched by the best foreigners today by the way, Code A/S or not.

Overreactions in the threads these days are mind boggling. This is worse than Polt suddenly being the best Terran in the universe... and beyond. Jesus.

jarocket

Canada21 Posts

June 15 2011 05:27 GMT

#427

maybe he could join Team reign

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

June 15 2011 07:28 GMT

#428

Rain is a good player, people are being too hard on him for falling down to code A after getting to the finals. He's obviously not finals material, but he got into code S, and then got back in again. He's obviously beyond a one trick cheesing pony to be able to do this and I'm sure a lot of teams will want him.

It's also interesting that it's Rain who made this decision. Nothing about him appeared to yell out "I want to travel abroad" but I guess you gotta respect him for the decision. I still feel there might have been some underlying personal reasons with him and TSL though for this decision to happen. Maybe bad atmosphere or somethin' considering their team is relatively small and not doing so well lately.

DystopiaX

United States16236 Posts

June 15 2011 07:29 GMT

#429

On June 15 2011 13:17 Ruscour wrote:
ReignRain, they still have 2 unannounced players apparently, let's see ReignRain happen fo sho.

That'd be the most messed up/hilarious thing ever lol. I could see him joining FXO, getting acquainted with them while they're playing in TSL, and then moving back with them (if they do move back)

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

June 15 2011 12:55 GMT

#430

On June 15 2011 13:19 Emporio wrote:

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Reposting my question

In any case, more good players playing in international tournaments is a win for foreign SC2. The fact that Koreans are so interested in playing in MLG/Dreamhack/whatever is a huge win, and now one of them wants to get sponsored so he can go to all of these events. The biggest victory would be if one of them decided to leave Korea entirely and train in a foreign team house full time. I don't think that will happen anytime soon, but we are getting there...