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Frugalicious
Profile Joined June 2010
United States121 Posts
June 15 2011 00:22 GMT
#381
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.
BaronFel
Profile Joined July 2009
United States155 Posts
June 15 2011 00:23 GMT
#382
Moons done rather well in Foreign tourneys, don't see why Rain can't either.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 00:27:54
June 15 2011 00:25 GMT
#383
On June 15 2011 09:22 Frugalicious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.


hate?? wtf....mb read first? i never said he is bad, i just said there is a good bunch of foreigner which are better....thats not hate mr. troll. and about ur gsl code a thingy...its no secret that code a is actually SO DAMN HARD, that you also need a good amount of luck on your side, even the best can fail there. if u would follow gsl, you would know
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
June 15 2011 00:25 GMT
#384
So here's a question:

If Rain does join a true foreigners team (let's just say fnatic for this example), meaning he leaves the TSL house and trains only with the fnatic guys, but still lives in Korea, and then proceeds to do really well in GSL or even just stays in Code S with no notable results while he sweeps up foreign tournaments like MLG and NASL, is this a win for foreign SC2 or just another example of Korean dominance?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
June 15 2011 00:26 GMT
#385
I can't believe people are saying that Rain is bad based on small sample of games shown only on GSL. The fact that he is in code S and can compete with other code S makes him a very strong player. Although he may cheese people and win sometimes it doesn't fuckin matter. You play to win
Chise
Profile Joined December 2010
Japan507 Posts
June 15 2011 00:27 GMT
#386
Rain used to be pretty bad, but he improved a lot.
He's actually a pretty solid player now.
He'll find a team to pick him up for sure.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
June 15 2011 00:35 GMT
#387
On June 15 2011 09:25 gwaihir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:22 Frugalicious wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.


hate?? wtf....mb read first? i never said he is bad, i just said there is a good bunch of foreigner which are better....thats not hate mr. troll. and about ur gsl code a thingy...its no secret that code a is actually SO DAMN HARD, that you also need a good amount of luck on your side, even the best can fail there. if u would follow gsl, you would know

You don't need luck to win Code A, you need skill lol.


MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
June 15 2011 00:37 GMT
#388
On June 15 2011 09:35 Geovu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:25 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:22 Frugalicious wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.


hate?? wtf....mb read first? i never said he is bad, i just said there is a good bunch of foreigner which are better....thats not hate mr. troll. and about ur gsl code a thingy...its no secret that code a is actually SO DAMN HARD, that you also need a good amount of luck on your side, even the best can fail there. if u would follow gsl, you would know

You don't need luck to win Code A, you need skill lol.



is this forum full of trolls?
dude, i said "ALSO" not "only"
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
-swordguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States560 Posts
June 15 2011 00:41 GMT
#389
Another thing to consider is that Rain has had practice in tournament settings and experience with the famous Korean gaming houses. You can argue that some of the foreign players are better but we have seen a lot of players do good in an online tournament then tilt at every LAN they go to so experience should be worth something the foreign teams.
I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once - William Shakespeare, ‘’Julius Caesar’’
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
June 15 2011 00:41 GMT
#390
Rain is obviously not top or very good considering so many great Terrans in Korea. However, he is pretty decent compared with foreign scene. I would not say selectct/fenix is better than rain.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
June 15 2011 00:44 GMT
#391
On June 15 2011 09:37 gwaihir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:35 Geovu wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:25 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:22 Frugalicious wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.


hate?? wtf....mb read first? i never said he is bad, i just said there is a good bunch of foreigner which are better....thats not hate mr. troll. and about ur gsl code a thingy...its no secret that code a is actually SO DAMN HARD, that you also need a good amount of luck on your side, even the best can fail there. if u would follow gsl, you would know

You don't need luck to win Code A, you need skill lol.



is this forum full of trolls?
dude, i said "ALSO" not "only"


Thanks for the laugh. And I won't bother answering the PM you sent me lol...

I seriously wonder what it takes to be that dumb. Cold data means a lot more than your opinions dude.
in a state of trance
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
June 15 2011 00:47 GMT
#392
On June 14 2011 21:58 FataLe wrote:
hahahhaaha Liquid`Rain.
Sorry, it's late here :3


It took me a second.... hahahaha I'm tired too....
R.I.P. CheckSix
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
June 15 2011 00:49 GMT
#393
On June 15 2011 09:44 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:37 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:35 Geovu wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:25 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:22 Frugalicious wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.


hate?? wtf....mb read first? i never said he is bad, i just said there is a good bunch of foreigner which are better....thats not hate mr. troll. and about ur gsl code a thingy...its no secret that code a is actually SO DAMN HARD, that you also need a good amount of luck on your side, even the best can fail there. if u would follow gsl, you would know

You don't need luck to win Code A, you need skill lol.



is this forum full of trolls?
dude, i said "ALSO" not "only"


Thanks for the laugh. And I won't bother answering the PM you sent me lol...

I seriously wonder what it takes to be that dumb. Cold data means a lot more than your opinions dude.

which data?
in this whole thread there wasnt even a litte bit of data which argues against my oppinion.just other oppinions :D.... but hey, nice try
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
June 15 2011 00:51 GMT
#394
On June 15 2011 09:37 gwaihir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 09:35 Geovu wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:25 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:22 Frugalicious wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.


hate?? wtf....mb read first? i never said he is bad, i just said there is a good bunch of foreigner which are better....thats not hate mr. troll. and about ur gsl code a thingy...its no secret that code a is actually SO DAMN HARD, that you also need a good amount of luck on your side, even the best can fail there. if u would follow gsl, you would know

You don't need luck to win Code A, you need skill lol.



is this forum full of trolls?
dude, i said "ALSO" not "only"


...players who are good enough make it past Code A into Code S, and stay there. AKA Bomber, MKP, MVP (made it back in easily), Alicia, Losira, the list goes on. They make their OWN LUCK. By simply being better than the competition. Rain has also been able to stick in the competition. Players like Sjow, Morrow, and Sen, while undoubtably VERY GOOD, have shown that they get dominated by Code A, or sub-Code A players (IEM, GSL, etc.). At some point, you have to stop making excuses that Rain has had an easy time in GSL, and accept the fact that he has had the skill to stay in the competition for over 6 months.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 15 2011 00:52 GMT
#395
Funny how dumb people are to think rain isn't good.

He got to GSL finals ppl.. he could repeatedly crush most "good" foreigners.
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
June 15 2011 00:54 GMT
#396
On June 15 2011 09:22 gwaihir wrote:
lol ur acting like i said rain is bad...i never did that because he isnt.
and darkforce mb we will see when rain arrives at the foreigner scene. sure you can be right, but also wrong, like me. and if some of them arent better than rain then only just a slight bit. time will tell, but dont act like my oppinion is a troll oppinion or total wrong

its either a troll opinion or completely wrong though...
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 00:56:01
June 15 2011 00:55 GMT
#397
On June 15 2011 09:51 EchelonTee wrote:
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On June 15 2011 09:37 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:35 Geovu wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:25 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:22 Frugalicious wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:13 DarKFoRcE wrote:
On June 15 2011 09:11 gwaihir wrote:
On June 15 2011 08:22 nokz88 wrote:
On June 15 2011 07:19 gwaihir wrote:
i dont see any BIG foreigner team take him...mb a team like sixjax, millenium,complexity (if they can afford it)....because teams like EG, mouz, dignitas have already better players than him....ofc rain is a more or less solid terran, but i can list 15 foreigners, who are better than him, here. and i dont see a european team taking him, because europe already has a sick shitload of baller terrans. so i doubt that any european team will make this huge investment (working on the language barrier etc.) i dont know any european team who hasnt already some sick terrans.mb millenium :D

but i would love to see him join eg, while idra is raging about it ("this skilless noob without selfrespect?! cmon ur kiddin, his mechanics suck! what shall i train with him? im already good at defending 2 rax scv allin!" j/k )





15 foreigners?

I know I shouldn't feed these guys, but I can't pass up this opportunity for a good laugh, so I'll bite.

Go ahead, wanna see your list.


feed what kind of guys? trolls? newbs? haha lol

idra,jinro,huk,naniwa,thorzain,dimaga,whitera,kiwikaki,morrow,select,sjow,sen,kas,hasuobs

ok 15 was just a guess, but hey this 14 here are as good as 15 and i have the feeling i forgot 1 or 2 players. these guys i listed are better than tsl_rain, some of them clearly, some just a bit.
now keep it shut you troll


Lol im pretty sure that half of those arent better than Rain, probably more than half ;p
And i'd even be willing to bet money on that.


Darkforce's opinion is a lot more meaningful than gwaihir's hate for Rain. DF actually has experience playing against many of those players and a greater understanding of the game/high level play. Also, would you really put players who couldn't qualify for Code A/Stay in Code S superior to Rain? Quite hard to make that assessment without being irrationally opinionated.

Rain is also very capable of playing macro games quite well as demonstrated with his games vs MVP and even as long ago as S3, versus MC in the finals (the Lost Temple game is a good example). He may not of had won, but he did demonstrate that he is still quite strong in macro-oriented games. Pretty good Macro + excellent cheese + a pocket full of timing-attacks makes him quite the scary player to face and all the more unpredictable since he is so well-versed.


hate?? wtf....mb read first? i never said he is bad, i just said there is a good bunch of foreigner which are better....thats not hate mr. troll. and about ur gsl code a thingy...its no secret that code a is actually SO DAMN HARD, that you also need a good amount of luck on your side, even the best can fail there. if u would follow gsl, you would know

You don't need luck to win Code A, you need skill lol.



is this forum full of trolls?
dude, i said "ALSO" not "only"


...players who are good enough make it past Code A into Code S, and stay there. AKA Bomber, MKP, MVP (made it back in easily), Alicia, Losira, the list goes on. They make their OWN LUCK. By simply being better than the competition. Rain has also been able to stick in the competition. Players like Sjow, Morrow, and Sen, while undoubtably VERY GOOD, have shown that they get dominated by Code A, or sub-Code A players (IEM, GSL, etc.). At some point, you have to stop making excuses that Rain has had an easy time in GSL, and accept the fact that he has had the skill to stay in the competition for over 6 months.


sure thats why ppl like mma are still in code a...just look at his up n down match vs. huk...fail cheese, then got cheesed. it was just unlucky and he missed this amount of luck you sometimes need (like in every sport) and if your whole post is adressed to me...wtf who said rain had an easy time, did i say he is bad? the fuck NO...come on guys, just learn to read what others say (((
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
June 15 2011 00:56 GMT
#398
Don't think Rain would end up on a foreign team except maybe FXO. It would be hard for him to integrate with a team that largely doesn't speak the same language.
the farm ends here
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
June 15 2011 00:59 GMT
#399
feel bad for Rain coz I think Rain will not get picked by foreign team.. not because of skill, but because of lack of English.

does he want to move to outside of Korea? He is still code s player I believe and earns $1500 per month.. I just don't understand what he wants.
You know what I'm talking about
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 15 2011 01:02 GMT
#400
On June 15 2011 09:52 travis wrote:
Funny how dumb people are to think rain isn't good.

He got to GSL finals ppl.. he could repeatedly crush most "good" foreigners.


very true. it is just easy to overlook him when you compare him to the other koreans he plays against. but against our foreigners.......heck even Moon who isn't even Code A beat out most foreigners.
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