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On June 01 2011 21:45 Mentor wrote: The reason many players wouldn't go to Korea to participate in Code A is that Code A is a month long tournament, and Korea doesn't have any tournaments besides that. So it's much more lucrative for players to play weekly cups and attend the different weekend long tournament like MLG, Dreamhack, Assembly, IEM etc.. and have multiple opportunities to win the same amount or even more money than in Korea. It's not really GomTV's "fault", but rather the fault of the GSL centric e-sports environment in Korea.
true to some extent but the payout is great if you a code S player.
This 'more money in foreigner scene!' is total BS. Did you know that Hoseo San made more money in prize than any foreign pros in SC2? (edit: except Jinro)
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/forum/view.php?article_id=2849157
The only problem with GSL set up is that it does not reward bad players that much. If you are a top player and want to make money, IMO, you are wasting your time in foreign scene unless you want to help local scene develop.
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On June 01 2011 22:09 Yemack wrote: This 'more money in foreigner scene!' is total BS. Did you know that Hoseo San made more money in prize than any foreign pros in SC2? (edit: except Jinro) And except SjoW. And WhiteRa, Naama, Naniwa, Fenix and IdrA. Get your facts straight.
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On June 01 2011 22:09 Yemack wrote:
The only problem with GSL set up is that it does not reward bad players that much. If you are a top player and want to make money, IMO, you are wasting your time in foreign scene unless you want to help local scene develop.
like TSL Rain and BitByBitPrime for example?
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has anyone asked a korean pro or the korean community if they would prefer "our" proscene with daily cups and every week a big online tournament ?
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On June 02 2011 00:17 delHospital wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 22:09 Yemack wrote: This 'more money in foreigner scene!' is total BS. Did you know that Hoseo San made more money in prize than any foreign pros in SC2? (edit: except Jinro) And except SjoW. And WhiteRa, Naama, Naniwa, Fenix and IdrA. Get your facts straight.
From what I know, San made more. He listed a source. You didn't. List a source before you get defensive.
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On June 02 2011 00:21 vojnik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 22:09 Yemack wrote:
The only problem with GSL set up is that it does not reward bad players that much. If you are a top player and want to make money, IMO, you are wasting your time in foreign scene unless you want to help local scene develop. like TSL Rain and BitByBitPrime for example?
if you have common sense you would know they are exceptions not norm
I'm sure you do, you just chose to ignore it.
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On June 02 2011 00:25 Panicc wrote: has anyone asked a korean pro or the korean community if they would prefer "our" proscene with daily cups and every week a big online tournament ?
I think everyone likes a mix. Having a big 'this is the most important' tournament is good and I really like that, but also it would be nice to see Nestea outside of GSL without him having 500ms.
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I'm sorry but which Fnatic player thought they would be able to compete in GSL? Unless it was Sen, they are sorely mistaken.
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I think that while Gom is doing a great job of making integration of foreign and Korean sc2 scenes a reality, I think that everyone just needs to be aware that there are ALWAYS things that can still he done...responsibility for integration shouldn't rest only with the Korean scene either ...thats not what I'm saying...the drive has to be there for foreigners too. But discussion and new ideas need to keep happening....that way progress is more exponential rather than linear....so in short, everyone is doing a good job, but i dont Think for a second that everyone is doing everything possible. There is always room for improvement, imo.
Good article op
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I hope the team going to Korea is EG.
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On June 02 2011 13:47 ShinySleepy wrote: I hope the team going to Korea is EG. It was already announced it was team FXO
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It would be nice if the price to watch the GSL and GTSL season would go down, more people would watch the show and it would help the korean players to build up an international fanbase tremendously.
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Hmm.. can a foreign team entering in theGSTL pickup a mercenary as well? That would make things pretty interesting..
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What a nice post.
It was certainly proven before, and the latest phrase is such a great means of cooperation and involvment.
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On June 02 2011 00:21 vojnik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 22:09 Yemack wrote:
The only problem with GSL set up is that it does not reward bad players that much. If you are a top player and want to make money, IMO, you are wasting your time in foreign scene unless you want to help local scene develop. like TSL Rain and BitByBitPrime for example?
GSL has gotten infinitely tougher since then. Why do you think TSL Rain is no longer Code S and BitByBit has disappeared from the scene entirely?
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MLG July vs Kiwkikaki, mr Chae just translated for (very happy) JulyZerg and said "he's suprised so many ppl cheer for him and he wants to come to MLG every year", and then added "and you guys should also be in the GSL" (foreigners)
i love you mr chae. so sad our players dont have character.
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On June 05 2011 06:05 SSLPrism wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 06:03 snailz wrote: MLG July vs Kiwkikaki, mr Chae just translated for (very happy) JulyZerg and said "he's suprised so many ppl cheer for him and he wants to come to MLG every year", and then added "and you guys should also be in the GSL" (foreigners)
i love you mr chae. so sad our players dont have character. Really, players don't have character because they don't go the GSL? ... Thats honestly completely wrong... and well... dumb in general.
it has been widely discussed in this subject, and it goes something in the lines "they dont go cause they are scared of the koreans". how can u single me out, for god sake? my post was about MLG live action five minutes ago concerning gentleman who made the OP, i dont need a flame war with some american just insulting with no constructive input
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There are really legitimate reasons for foreigners not wanting to participate in the GSL. IMO code A should just be a 3 day tournament like MLG, that would solve most of the problems that foreign progamers have with the GSL. There really is no reason to go to Korea for a whole month to play in a tournament with such low prize money.
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