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SpurvL
Sweden345 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:10 Manacakes wrote: Some people can NOT get promoted, there is definently a bug, cause there are so many people with this exact same problem. But not everyone So not everyone have this problem?, i was under the impression that noone could get promoted? | ||
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SoraLimit
Canada747 Posts
On May 24 2011 00:06 DarKcS wrote: Why we angry? I'd be grateful, you can still improve (albeit a bit less, but mechanic are most of it and skill of opponent is irrelevant) without worrying about being roflstomped by perfectly executed cheeses and timing pushes, it'd be like ladder heaven for me if I was stuck in a lower league for a bit. Also usually it's promotion after one game played, except last month when the bronzies werent being promoted I believe it was automatic? 50/50 here. Either way, won't be long, if your MMR is actually good enough for a promotion. The thing is that the MMR does change, so even if you were stuck in the lower leagues, if you deserved to be in the higher league, all you will be playing are those leagues. You don't get stuck playing bronze players when your in bronze. | ||
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Not_ExMatt
Canada2 Posts
On May 23 2011 22:32 Codeskye wrote: i know someone who went 28-1 in 1v1 ladder and got promoted to masters after that. half of the games he played, he was against mid tier master ranked players. no you dont. You dont know anyone, you have no friends. Freddy McFriendless. User was banned for this post. | ||
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random user
85 Posts
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StrangrDangr
United States291 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:22 Not_ExMatt wrote: no you dont. You dont know anyone, you have no friends. Freddy McFriendless. That must be the most clever ban avoidance name ever. BRAVO "Not"ExMatt | ||
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Sc1pio
United States823 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:32 random user wrote: I think it's funny and ironic that pretty much everyone (who posts at least) who is, for example, in gold and facing more and more plats and some diamonds, believes that they belong in plat and the people they are facing are in the correct league, rather than thinking that they are in the correct league, and that at least some of the people they are facing are in the incorrect league. Occam's Razor suggests the former is correct because it assumes one error in the ladder rather than a whole bunch (read: you versus everyone you play). | ||
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Fission
Canada1184 Posts
 ( @random user: that's a pretty interesting point and I think people should definitely consider it before getting outraged lol | ||
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Ryze
Canada234 Posts
anyone else encounter this? | ||
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Iyerbeth
England2410 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:32 random user wrote: I think it's funny and ironic that pretty much everyone (who posts at least) who is, for example, in gold and facing more and more plats and some diamonds, believes that they belong in plat and the people they are facing are in the correct league, rather than thinking that they are in the correct league, and that at least some of the people they are facing are in the incorrect league. I considered that too, but given the amount of people *only* playing people a league or more higher than them I'm willing to believe there's a wider issue. I'm still playing and hoping for promo, but I'm in Silver league, and haven't played anyone in Bronze or Silver for a long time now. For myself, I'm being placed against Diamonds and Plats, that's three leagues higher than I'm in. Are you seriously suggesting that all of us are suddenly facing these players who're all suddenly losing the ability to play by several leagues worth of skill at the same time? | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:39 Fission wrote: I really wish there was a "report post" button sometimes ( @random user: that's a pretty interesting point and I think people should definitely consider it before getting outraged lol There is a report post button. Im not sure what the pre-requisite is for being able to use it, but im assuming its post count. I dont have 2000 posts yet but ive been able to report posts for quite a while now. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:42 eXigent. wrote: There is a report post button. Im not sure what the pre-requisite is for being able to use it, but im assuming its post count. I dont have 2000 posts yet but ive been able to report posts for quite a while now. The prerequisite is user age. You'll get a report button when your account is 1 year old. | ||
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random user
85 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:39 Sc1pio wrote: Occam's Razor suggests the former is correct because it assumes one error in the ladder rather than a whole bunch (read: you versus everyone you play). That sort of works except that everyone is being affected by this bug. Which means that everyone is going to deviate from where they should be. At this point, I have stopped looking at a person's league after a match because after 10 days or whatever, it's like trying to figure out where someone lives now by looking at data which told you where they lived 10 years ago. Sure, for some people it's going to be accurate because you have a general sense of where they were 10 days ago, but the data is so obsolete at this point I think trying to determine where you stand by looking at where people were 10 days ago, just by simple probability a non insignificant number of people are going to be wrong. On top of that, some people have a funny way of discarding information they don't like. So if someone plays 6 plats, 1 diamond, and 3 golds, they think they are playing mostly plats and diamonds, which is true, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions from that. I'm sure that some people are quite right that they should be promoted, and it wasn't my intention to dispute that. But I think that it's funny and ironic that EVERYONE (or at least everyone who posts) thinks that. Edit: it's sort of like that thing where something like depending on what specifically you ask, 70-90% of respondents will believe that they are better than average drivers etc. | ||
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Ignorant prodigy
United States385 Posts
so now I'm going to assume that when I check someone I just faced and beat.. and if they're platinum.. that REALLY they're grandmaster and I'm just that good! sweet I feel great about myself now  ~ | ||
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pig-dude
United States170 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:40 Ryze wrote: I just tried to play 2 games where it would find a match then the countdown would freeze at 0 seconds and i would disconnect 5 minutes later and get a loss.... anyone else encounter this? I find all sorts of weird issues these days on ladder, and I think bnet is having some small problems. I rolled a fast-expanding protoss the other day as zerg, and did an offensive "gg" when he wasn't leaving although the game was clearly over. He had a hidden expo where he built many cannons and made a feeble attempt at a comeback, so I clobbered the base with hydra drops as he raced his probe around the map in a warp prism building pylons. I left the last pylon with less than 10 health and wrote EZ and GG in creep tumors while teching to ultras so I could make them /cheer and /dance before finishing the game. Then I killed the pylon after dancing my ultras around it a bit. I got points for the win, and points came off my bonus pool, but the match does not appear in my history. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12249 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:52 random user wrote: That sort of works except that everyone is being affected by this bug. Which means that everyone is going to deviate from where they should be. At this point, I have stopped looking at a person's league after a match because after 10 days or whatever, it's like trying to figure out where someone lives now by looking at data which told you where they lived 10 years ago. Sure, for some people it's going to be accurate because you have a general sense of where they were 10 days ago, but the data is so obsolete at this point I think trying to determine where you stand by looking at where people were 10 days ago, just by simple probability a non insignificant number of people are going to be wrong. On top of that, some people have a funny way of discarding information they don't like. So if someone plays 6 plats, 1 diamond, and 3 golds, they think they are playing mostly plats and diamonds, which is true, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions from that. I'm sure that some people are quite right that they should be promoted, and it wasn't my intention to dispute that. But I think that it's funny and ironic that EVERYONE (or at least everyone who posts) thinks that. Edit: it's sort of like that thing where something like depending on what specifically you ask, 70-90% of respondents will believe that they are better than average drivers etc. Yeah, it's definitely not enough to just take a quick look at the other player's league badge to get an idea of their skill anymore during this period. You now have to look at that player's history over his past few games and take note of who he's been playing, and perhaps even who his opponents have been playing. The info should get more and more accurate with each step. | ||
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Chinchillin
United States259 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On May 24 2011 04:19 Excalibur_Z wrote: Yeah, it's definitely not enough to just take a quick look at the other player's league badge to get an idea of their skill anymore during this period. You now have to look at that player's history over his past few games and take note of who he's been playing, and perhaps even who his opponents have been playing. The info should get more and more accurate with each step. Generally speaking the ranking is still fairly accurate. If you have been laddering you will be where you're supposed to be, and it really only effects people who have been custom 1v1'ing and now decided to ladder. It did effect me but I don't think it's the biggest deal if it will be resolved soon. | ||
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StrangrDangr
United States291 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On May 24 2011 04:16 Shahrazad wrote: I find all sorts of weird issues these days on ladder, and I think bnet is having some small problems. I rolled a fast-expanding protoss the other day as zerg, and did an offensive "gg" when he wasn't leaving although the game was clearly over. He had a hidden expo where he built many cannons and made a feeble attempt at a comeback, so I clobbered the base with hydra drops as he raced his probe around the map in a warp prism building pylons. I left the last pylon with less than 10 health and wrote EZ and GG in creep tumors while teching to ultras so I could make them /cheer and /dance before finishing the game. Then I killed the pylon after dancing my ultras around it a bit. I got points for the win, and points came off my bonus pool, but the match does not appear in my history. Have experienced that too for quite some time and it's not a new bug. Dont know if it goes on your rating or not. Have not found out the reason or even singled out possibilities for why, but not topic related atleast. | ||
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dcrowe
8 Posts
On May 24 2011 03:32 random user wrote: I think it's funny and ironic that pretty much everyone (who posts at least) who is, for example, in gold and facing more and more plats and some diamonds, believes that they belong in plat and the people they are facing are in the correct league, rather than thinking that they are in the correct league, and that at least some of the people they are facing are in the incorrect league. Actually I know for a fact that several of the people I'm facing are in the incorrect league. I'm high plat at the moment, and winning against plats/diamonds, and occasionally playing #1 bronze leaguers, who are obviously stuck. | ||
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