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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
May 23 2011 08:03 GMT
#361
I vote that all the mega gosu's who are balling it up with GM players after being previously (unfairly) placed in a much lower rating before the glitch also talk about all the chicks they've banged recently who would no doubt tell you about how awesome they were at giving them pleasure with their 11" penis's, you know, if they weren't mute. Dude, you guys are so awesome
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
sm0b
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States157 Posts
May 23 2011 08:05 GMT
#362
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.
friendo
Profile Joined December 2010
46 Posts
May 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#363
are the ladder's locked not due to a bug, but because its the end of the "season"? When do these seasons end anyway?
Parnass
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany145 Posts
May 23 2011 08:23 GMT
#364
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.

People care, because you could judge if you moved up in mmr by the league of your opponents. I am in gold right now and was playing a lot of plat. now im playing plat gold and silver and it makes it hard to judge if you are improving in skill or not.
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 08:27:32
May 23 2011 08:27 GMT
#365
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.


That shiny icon is a beacon of progress and hope. You can't sit there and tell me your view is what others should all believe. Many people lose hope in their ability to get better and question their skill when they can't track progress and that's a demotivating factor. It's motivating to see yourself progress...

Hell, I'd settle for just being able to see MMRs.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kamuy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
May 23 2011 08:27 GMT
#366
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.


Because blizzard refuses to show my MMR. Show me an mmr, and ill stop worrying about the only tool i have to judge myself against my peers.
HuK | MC | Naniwa | White-Ra | KiWiKaKi | I love protoss :D
Tastrafe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States9 Posts
May 23 2011 12:57 GMT
#367
Yea, same problem in 1's. I screwed around in placement which I shouldn't have and went 1-4 and got put into bronze. I then won 5 straight and got into silver. Now I'm 2nd in my division in silver(I know doesn't matter) but Ive been on a huge winning streak beating mid range platinums, (I guess Ive gotten past gold?) but I don't league up. Any idea's why?
Tastrafe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States9 Posts
May 23 2011 12:59 GMT
#368
On May 20 2011 17:14 HaXXspetten wrote:
Ironically, the system works like this: If you win too much, you can't get promoted.
You won't get promoted until your new MMR has been balanced out so that the game know where to re-place you. If you're on a 15 winstreak vs Master Players etc, just keep playing. You will get ranked against players with higher and higher MMR. Eventually, you'll start losing. After you've lost a few games, the system will now be able to see where your new MMR lies. Knowing that you've improved isn't enough for a promotion. It has to know HOW MUCH you've improved.
For example: I was placed in Plat in my 2v2Random after 5-0. I then went on to get 18-1, and was still in Plat, even though I got matched with players who still are around top 300 in EU (1v1). Then, I lost two games in a row, so I had 18-3. Got into Diamond. Won 2 more, lost 2 more: Masters.
Solution: Just keep playing until you get defeated a few times. If you still don't get promoted, THEN it might be some sort of glitch, but not before that.

Hope that helped.


thank you helps alot XD
JadedZerg
Profile Joined May 2011
21 Posts
May 23 2011 13:02 GMT
#369
On May 23 2011 17:27 Kamuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.


Because blizzard refuses to show my MMR. Show me an mmr, and ill stop worrying about the only tool i have to judge myself against my peers.


I think it would be kind of hard for blizzard to show you a MMR, because there's 6 different leagues. MMR usually works like rating and 1400 masters obviously isn't like 1400 bronze. Because of this I don't think they could really show you an accurate MMR.
surraymb
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria114 Posts
May 23 2011 13:12 GMT
#370
On May 23 2011 22:02 JadedZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:27 Kamuy wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.


Because blizzard refuses to show my MMR. Show me an mmr, and ill stop worrying about the only tool i have to judge myself against my peers.


I think it would be kind of hard for blizzard to show you a MMR, because there's 6 different leagues. MMR usually works like rating and 1400 masters obviously isn't like 1400 bronze. Because of this I don't think they could really show you an accurate MMR.



There shouldn't be any different leagues for MMR. MMR is a universal score through which your skill is determined.. it doesn't change if you switch leagues and doesn't just keep climbing to crazy amounts like your ladder rating. If it worked like ladder rating it would be just as worthless in judging skill and as such would be worthless for matchmaking as well, so it can't possibly be like that.


The only reason for them not to show it is because it would stagnate for many people who don't really improve so they'd be pissed. Same reason as not showing losses anymore.

They show your skill rating in HoN though for example and it's fine.. I guess blizzard is just too scared of losing countless amounts of mainstream gamers who never improve and just enjoy getting to Top10 in silver league after 500 games.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
May 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#371
On May 23 2011 22:02 JadedZerg wrote:
I think it would be kind of hard for blizzard to show you a MMR, because there's 6 different leagues. MMR usually works like rating and 1400 masters obviously isn't like 1400 bronze. Because of this I don't think they could really show you an accurate MMR.


MMR must be comparable across leagues because they match people across leagues. This doesn't preclude their storing it with some kind of league or division offset baked into it, but the math to compare MMR across leagues must be pretty simple, since they do it almost every time you hit the button.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
JadedZerg
Profile Joined May 2011
21 Posts
May 23 2011 13:17 GMT
#372
On May 23 2011 22:12 surraymb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 22:02 JadedZerg wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:27 Kamuy wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.


Because blizzard refuses to show my MMR. Show me an mmr, and ill stop worrying about the only tool i have to judge myself against my peers.


I think it would be kind of hard for blizzard to show you a MMR, because there's 6 different leagues. MMR usually works like rating and 1400 masters obviously isn't like 1400 bronze. Because of this I don't think they could really show you an accurate MMR.



There shouldn't be any different leagues for MMR. MMR is a universal score through which your skill is determined.. it doesn't change if you switch leagues and doesn't just keep climbing to crazy amounts like your ladder rating. If it worked like ladder rating it would be just as worthless in judging skill and as such would be worthless for matchmaking as well, so it can't possibly be like that.


The only reason for them not to show it is because it would stagnate for many people who don't really improve so they'd be pissed. Same reason as not showing losses anymore.

They show your skill rating in HoN though for example and it's fine.. I guess blizzard is just too scared of losing countless amounts of mainstream gamers who never improve and just enjoy getting to Top10 in silver league after 500 games.


I guess I'd need to see what the MMR value actually is. I was under the impression that it would, in theory, be the same as your ladder rating after enough wins. Basically meaning MMR is your ladder rating but more dynamic. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing it.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 23 2011 13:20 GMT
#373
On May 23 2011 22:02 JadedZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:27 Kamuy wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.


Because blizzard refuses to show my MMR. Show me an mmr, and ill stop worrying about the only tool i have to judge myself against my peers.


I think it would be kind of hard for blizzard to show you a MMR, because there's 6 different leagues. MMR usually works like rating and 1400 masters obviously isn't like 1400 bronze. Because of this I don't think they could really show you an accurate MMR.

You're mixing up MMR and points. Someone in bronze with 1400 points isn't comparable to someone in master with 1400 points since points are devalued when you are promoted. MMR however is hidden and is what decides who you're matched against and when you're promoted. A bronze player with 1400 MMR and a master player with 1400 MMR wouldn't happen since if they have the same MMR, they should be in the same league, at least in the long run.
azn_dude1
Profile Joined October 2010
162 Posts
May 23 2011 13:23 GMT
#374
On May 23 2011 22:20 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 22:02 JadedZerg wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:27 Kamuy wrote:
On May 23 2011 17:05 sm0b wrote:
I don't see why people obsess about a shiny icon before they find a game. Your MMR is what counts, and when they fix the ladder bug if you were meant to get promoted today you will then.


Because blizzard refuses to show my MMR. Show me an mmr, and ill stop worrying about the only tool i have to judge myself against my peers.


I think it would be kind of hard for blizzard to show you a MMR, because there's 6 different leagues. MMR usually works like rating and 1400 masters obviously isn't like 1400 bronze. Because of this I don't think they could really show you an accurate MMR.

You're mixing up MMR and points. Someone in bronze with 1400 points isn't comparable to someone in master with 1400 points since points are devalued when you are promoted. MMR however is hidden and is what decides who you're matched against and when you're promoted. A bronze player with 1400 MMR and a master player with 1400 MMR wouldn't happen since if they have the same MMR, they should be in the same league, at least in the long run.

This and the fact that points only have to do with how much you play, not really how much you win. You could win 50% of your games and end up with 1400 points, or play a lot less games and win 60% and get 1400 points. People overvalue points imo.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 23 2011 13:26 GMT
#375
Any info when ladder will be fixed? I'm close to promotion.
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
May 23 2011 13:32 GMT
#376
On May 23 2011 10:49 Ex_Matt wrote:
lol at people lying in this thread.

99.9% of battle.net players would never go 26-4 out of 30 games ever. I'd prop bet this with any degenerate gambler that isn't a sponsored player.



i know someone who went 28-1 in 1v1 ladder and got promoted to masters after that. half of the games he played, he was against mid tier master ranked players.
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
May 23 2011 13:36 GMT
#377
On May 20 2011 17:20 Silent12ill wrote:
I'd quit if i lost to a gold or plat while in masters...

go play BW to ICCup and get a A(+) guy who resets his account so he's D again playing against you

Ranks mean nothing.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
May 23 2011 13:39 GMT
#378
On May 23 2011 22:26 slimshady wrote:
Any info when ladder will be fixed? I'm close to promotion.


The next patch, according to Blizzard. No date on the patch, we never get that.
I am not young enough to know everything.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 23 2011 13:48 GMT
#379
oh the fun of mmr shown. Bronze players with a mmr off 500 will complain because a silver players has 490, yes thats what i want. "Hey you only have an mmr of 1400 and i have 1420 i should have won you noob". I am quiet happy about the current system.
And yay i was right about the bug .
Jacob666
Profile Joined January 2011
United States285 Posts
May 23 2011 13:57 GMT
#380
I have a friend who is is gold and is constantly matched with diamond, he wins about 50-60% of the time too against them.
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