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[Song] All those marauders - Metallica parody - Page 2

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Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 11:35:45
May 17 2011 11:35 GMT
#21
On May 17 2011 20:21 MonkSEA wrote:
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On May 17 2011 19:44 Tofugrinder wrote:
I cant listen to it right now since I'm at work. But what irritates me is the line:

Who the hell would play this gay?


what has sexual orientation to do with playing a game?
if you mean "who the hell would play this shitty" (or something like that) - well than it's just insulting to all homo sexuals.



The word 'gay' has been mangled by society, it used to mean happy, but then it was used as the term you're using it as: a homosexual.

It's now the society norm that the word 'gay' means something entirely different then the aforementioned. It usually just means 'stupid' or 'annoying'

So before you say that it's based on homosexuals, look at the context of the sentence(or in this case line) before you start a post with irritation.

before insulting all homosexuals you probably should just shut your mouth. Gay stands for homosexuals all over the world. No news for anyone I guess, but unfortunately political correctness has never been a topic in gaming/e-sports. And people like you are the cause so many homosexuals are getting insulted day in day out.
Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
May 17 2011 11:39 GMT
#22
I liked it. Props for taking the time and doing this =)

The use of calling something 'gay' is very widespread in the language currently. Is it offensive? Probably. However I actually know gay people who use that expression - it's that common. The song could do without it, but I don't think the OP should get too hard time about it.
Having said that, here's some constructive criticism that I feel might make future songs even better:

I would like the vocals a bit less loud compared with the music.

I'd prefer if you sang "funday monday" insteady of having the day9 recording. It would feel more like a part of the song instead of a comical reference. And everyone knows what "funday monday" refers to anyway.

My last comment is very taste based, and you may or may not agree. It's about the storyline of the song. The first 2 and a half paragraphs are the best in my eyes, because they convey the point of view of a Protoss player having difficulties against marauders. Then the story goes on and the player realizes he has collosi so supposedly he solved all his marauder related problems. I'm not sure what the 2 blue flame helion lines have to do with the story (although it's a great rhyme). Then the Terran has air, and the connection to funday monday. I want to stress again that this is a personal taste comment and your way is definitely one way to go about it, but I would want to see a more marauder related second half of the song in a song titled "those damn marauders". Perhaps the Protoss player tries some things to counter the marauders but gets owned by marauders nevertheless? Maybe his charge zealots get kited? Maybe he puts a bunch of cannons in his expansion's ramp and he gets marauders dropped behind them? Perhaps it's possible to tie that to funday monday as well, maybe a marauder only build (although I suspect some do that even without funday monday...)?
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
May 17 2011 11:42 GMT
#23
great parody, hopefully this doesnt get taken down cos metallica are too stupid to realise what free publicity is
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Neino
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway295 Posts
May 17 2011 11:46 GMT
#24
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I liked it. Props for taking the time and doing this =)

The use of calling something 'gay' is very widespread in the language currently. Is it offensive? Probably. However I actually know gay people who use that expression - it's that common. The song could do without it, but I don't think the OP should get too hard time about it.
Having said that, here's some constructive criticism that I feel might make future songs even better:

I would like the vocals a bit less loud compared with the music.

I'd prefer if you sang "funday monday" insteady of having the day9 recording. It would feel more like a part of the song instead of a comical reference. And everyone knows what "funday monday" refers to anyway.

My last comment is very taste based, and you may or may not agree. It's about the storyline of the song. The first 2 and a half paragraphs are the best in my eyes, because they convey the point of view of a Protoss player having difficulties against marauders. Then the story goes on and the player realizes he has collosi so supposedly he solved all his marauder related problems. I'm not sure what the 2 blue flame helion lines have to do with the story (although it's a great rhyme). Then the Terran has air, and the connection to funday monday. I want to stress again that this is a personal taste comment and your way is definitely one way to go about it, but I would want to see a more marauder related second half of the song in a song titled "those damn marauders". Perhaps the Protoss player tries some things to counter the marauders but gets owned by marauders nevertheless? Maybe his charge zealots get kited? Maybe he puts a bunch of cannons in his expansion's ramp and he gets marauders dropped behind them? Perhaps it's possible to tie that to funday monday as well, maybe a marauder only build (although I suspect some do that even without funday monday...)?


Great feedback! Thanks =)


great parody, hopefully this doesnt get taken down cos metallica are too stupid to realise what free publicity is


Didn't use the original song as the backing as you might have noticed, so hoping to avoid that, never know though.
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
May 17 2011 11:56 GMT
#25
nice one, liked it :-)!
Scrubington
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada475 Posts
May 17 2011 14:08 GMT
#26
It was decent, but the volume balance between the background song and your voice was the main problem (Voice too loud). I guess your mic isn't really stupid quality, and there isn't much you can do about that. Just trying to give constructive criticism.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 14:28:50
May 17 2011 14:28 GMT
#27
On May 17 2011 20:08 Sarang wrote:
You guys wouldn't say anything if the song contained the word 'rape', but apparently 'gay' is "insulting" and "incredibly offending".

Rofl.


Well nope, there was a fairly fierce debate when the word rape was used by a caster in the Dreamhack Invitational, so that is a strawman argument at best.
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Scrubington
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada475 Posts
May 17 2011 14:30 GMT
#28
On May 17 2011 23:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:08 Sarang wrote:
You guys wouldn't say anything if the song contained the word 'rape', but apparently 'gay' is "insulting" and "incredibly offending".

Rofl.


Well nope, there was a fairly fierce debate when the word rape was used by a caster in the Dreamhack Invitational, so that is a strawman argument at best.


Incredibly offensive ***
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
May 17 2011 14:36 GMT
#29
Love me some Wikings

People are so easily offended -.-
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splinter9
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada172 Posts
May 17 2011 14:46 GMT
#30
My cousin is gay and he calls himself gay and everyone he knows gay. I asked him one day if he thought it was appropriate to do that he told me " If i were to say some other insult they would be just as offended and gay is my insult of choice in most situations"

I really don't think its a big deal. In my experience It usually bored people without much to do that have the time to get so worked up over nothing. You'd think most people would have developed thicker skin. In my mind it essentially the same to get worked up over someone calling me a "poopy head"
Dhystopia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States27 Posts
May 17 2011 14:48 GMT
#31
On May 17 2011 23:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:08 Sarang wrote:
You guys wouldn't say anything if the song contained the word 'rape', but apparently 'gay' is "insulting" and "incredibly offending".

Rofl.


Well nope, there was a fairly fierce debate when the word rape was used by a caster in the Dreamhack Invitational, so that is a strawman argument at best.


Too late.... this threads going to blow up now even though the OP acknowledged he made a mistake.
yosisoy
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel202 Posts
May 17 2011 18:01 GMT
#32
On May 17 2011 20:42 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
great parody, hopefully this doesnt get taken down cos metallica are too stupid to realise what free publicity is


Yeah, cause Metallica will sure get a lot of publicity from this song.
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Swatch
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany114 Posts
May 17 2011 18:06 GMT
#33
using that song is kind of blasphemy but nevertheless good job dude
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
May 17 2011 18:11 GMT
#34
As posted before, Seek & Destroy probably would've been more appropriate for Marauders, but this was truly awesome. Great job <3
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Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 18:18:43
May 17 2011 18:18 GMT
#35
Great song Although your voice might not be the greatest it works well with the song and the lyrics are awesome.

But yea, if you wanna do another song maybe just try and sing a little cleaner. Cant find anything else to criticize on :D

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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 18:20:15
May 17 2011 18:19 GMT
#36
On the note of trying to find an alternative for gay, game would have worked too I think.

But yeah, certainly not a bad effort.
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ShaEreHugo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 18:29:04
May 17 2011 18:25 GMT
#37
I'm sorry to say this. But I did not enjoy the song. A lot of these "song" have been showing up lately. I'm getting a bit tired of them. :b

I remember the good old days when the starcraft songs had quality:

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Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
May 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#38
Gay is a slang word used by many to mean nothing more than "silly". Its offensive yes, but dont go hounding everyone who says it as if they clearly went out of their way to offend homosexuals.

I guess im helping derail this but it was a great parody, love metalica myself so this was great.

Also that day9 enterance at the end was perfect haha
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Tyler214365
Profile Joined December 2010
51 Posts
May 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#39
Great lyrics, and glad its not rap like most other sc parodies i hear. Obviously your not aspiring to be a professional singer but you did well with what you have and its better than what i could have done. Of course the production and balancing could be improved but that's a matter of finding people with the right equipment to do the job so for what you are working with it was great.

Side note: nobody seriously thinks that the context in which he used that word has anything to do with homosexuals. Almost all words that used to be homosexual slurs have now come to be general insults of someone being annoying or an asshole regardless of sexual orientation, partly because most people have gotten over having problems with homosexuality (im mostly talking about the younger generations that regularly use these words in this way) It really is just like that south park episode on the other homosexual slur, the way it is used has absolutely nothing to do with actually being gay.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 04:23:53
May 18 2011 04:23 GMT
#40
On May 17 2011 23:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 20:08 Sarang wrote:
You guys wouldn't say anything if the song contained the word 'rape', but apparently 'gay' is "insulting" and "incredibly offending".

Rofl.


Well nope, there was a fairly fierce debate when the word rape was used by a caster in the Dreamhack Invitational, so that is a strawman argument at best.


There was? The most I saw that mentioned was actually in the discussion of the LagTV/NASL thing, where people were saying "Well DeMusliM didn't get any flack for using the word, so why should the LagTV guys?"

I'll take your word that there was a debate though - but I don't really think you can draw comparisons between the two situations. One is a professional, worldwide broadcasted event, the other is a song some guy whipped up in his spare time.

And I stand by my statement that people wouldn't care so much if this song used the word 'rape' instead of 'gay'.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201762
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=213933
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208475
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190481
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180142

All of the above lead to songs with the words 'rape' or 'raped' in them. I could not find a single criticism of the song writers for using the word. But then this guy comes along and uses the word 'gay', and he gets jumped on right away.

I think that's bullshit tbh.

(Just to clarify, I'm merely saying I find it ridiculous how this guy gets jumped on for using the word 'gay' in his song, where other songs use 'rape' and nobody cares. I'm not trying to apply this to the whole community, because I'm sure you can go and find songs where the word 'gay' is used without any outcry.)
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