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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
May 10 2011 15:37 GMT
#401
shouldn't seed 1 be playing seed 8 (based on the points)

On May 11 2011 00:35 SynVisions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 00:31 shell wrote:
They don't have the points they are out.. it's fair and square!


The system is silly though. The games played (in both GSL and GSTL) are 1v1s. Therefore the number of players you have on your team that are in GSL is basically irrelevant. More important is the total skill level of all of your individual players... I realize this is hard to quantify, but a pure count of your players in GSL is almost meaningless.

I'd rather see a scoring system based upon the accomplishments of the players for all of the teams, added up.


i would say that a stronger team should have more people in code S/A? if u have 10 players and only 2 are in S/A, u could suggest that "the total skill level of your individual players" isnt high.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3610 Posts
May 10 2011 15:38 GMT
#402
I'm confused by a team league that

1) is decided based on individual league standings

and

2) has no regular season, only a playoff.

I mean, that's fine for a show league (cf. the STX Masters) but if you want to establish an actual team league... this is not how you do it.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
NOobToss
Profile Joined October 2010
United States92 Posts
May 10 2011 15:41 GMT
#403
apart from the IM exclusion, what a sick map!
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
May 10 2011 15:41 GMT
#404
IM didn't qualify. It's that simple.

Sure, the qualification process might not be optimal, but given the current state there is no way they can exclude another team in order to let IM qualify.

I would like to see some variation in awarding points though. The winner of Code S should earn more points than a Ro32 finisher. Previous team leagues should also be taken into account.

In fact, I'd like the whole team league thing to expand a little. There must be some up and coming teams out there who'd like a chance?
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 10 2011 15:42 GMT
#405
well that s a major bummer, since IM was pretty much the only team which used Zergs in the last GSTL
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 10 2011 15:46 GMT
#406
On May 11 2011 00:42 Geo.Rion wrote:
well that s a major bummer, since IM was pretty much the only team which used Zergs in the last GSTL


Losira was on quite a run, sad that we wont see him or anyone else from IM.
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
May 10 2011 15:46 GMT
#407
Hmm. What if MVP made it back into Code S? That will ensure IM's participation in the GSTL. Hopefully that works out. Much rather see MVP/Losira/Nestea owning noobs then choya/twilight/leenock etc.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
May 10 2011 15:46 GMT
#408
Anyone else think the new map looked really cool...?
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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
May 10 2011 15:46 GMT
#409
Cannot wait to see Bel'shir Beach in action! This game needs some sunnier maps
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
May 10 2011 15:47 GMT
#410
That Beach map looks amazing! I hope they bring it over to NA. :D
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labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 16:11:48
May 10 2011 15:48 GMT
#411
Bleh, This will be the first Team League that i don't by Premium for. IM has like 80% of all the players that I want to see.
Arccotangent
Profile Joined October 2010
519 Posts
May 10 2011 15:49 GMT
#412
The beach map is a good contrast to the darker look of most of the other maps.
"Taste the zombie's drug, now you want more."
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
May 10 2011 15:50 GMT
#413
On May 11 2011 00:48 labbe wrote:
Bleh, This will be the first Team League that i don't by Premium for. Has like 80% of all the players that I want to see.


damn, only 80%, what a bad league, right? :D
EvilZergling
Profile Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
May 10 2011 15:52 GMT
#414
The new map looks really cool although I don't see it being an ideal map for Zerg.

Unless I am looking at the image wrong it appears that the natural and 3rd bases have ramps leading directly to them.

This could be really useful for Terran and Protoss as Terran can just planetary at both without any worries of it being taken over while the Protoss can just place 3+ cannons and have the same peace of mind.

Zerg can place spine crawlers sure but by the time the Zerg are on 3 base the enemy should have sufficient units to laugh at the spine crawlers. Tank pushes or Colossi ranged attacks pretty much make spine crawlers useless not to mention spines are just terrible in the first place and can be avoided easily.

Thoughts?
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Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
May 10 2011 15:53 GMT
#415
On May 11 2011 00:46 spaZzNx-` wrote:
Hmm. What if MVP made it back into Code S? That will ensure IM's participation in the GSTL. Hopefully that works out. Much rather see MVP/Losira/Nestea owning noobs then choya/twilight/leenock etc.

If MVP gets back to Code S, it will most likely mean they'll get into GSTL next season, since they'll have guaranteed 5.8 points from Losira/Nestea/MVP/Nuts, and might get someone else through code A qualifiers. It won't change the upcoming GSTL though, those standings are from the beginning of GSL May and have been known for about a month now.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 10 2011 15:53 GMT
#416
Looks like its the map that artosis took the vacation to!
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
May 10 2011 15:56 GMT
#417
On May 11 2011 00:42 Geo.Rion wrote:
well that s a major bummer, since IM was pretty much the only team which used Zergs in the last GSTL


Yeah, it will be a shame that there will be a lack of top Zerg players. Hopefully July and Fruitdealer will play this season, and maybe Zenio who showed impressive play vs Jinro a few days ago (that's if they advance past the first round!)
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 16:00:45
May 10 2011 15:57 GMT
#418
oh god lol this is going to induce some QQ. Also, lol oGs got the hardest team first round again (IM won, SlayerS won, and without IM ST has a very good chance this season)

To put it in perspective though, TSL has just as little players as IM (both small teams) but TSL has almost all their players in Code S.
MKP||TSL
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 16:02:40
May 10 2011 15:59 GMT
#419
Man, people sure love to complain about invites until their favourite player/team doesn't make it through the qualifiers. So predictable. :lol

GOM, you did no wrong, IM didn't perform well enough in the individual GSL, that's all that needs to be said. Inviting IM over a team that has performed better than them and has more points would be undermining the credibility of the league. So would changing the qualification process right before this event.

I didn't hear anyone complaining about the process before, prime example of hypocrisy at work here. They can change the qualification process after this event if they want, but not now.


Already loved Belshir Beach when it was posted by LSPrime here on TL, happy that they've chosen to incorporate it into the pool, it looks really cool. Reminds me of a WC3 map.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
May 10 2011 16:05 GMT
#420
On May 11 2011 00:38 VGhost wrote:
I'm confused by a team league that

1) is decided based on individual league standings

and

2) has no regular season, only a playoff.

I mean, that's fine for a show league (cf. the STX Masters) but if you want to establish an actual team league... this is not how you do it.

1) Since these are one-off events of the regular seasonal GSL play, it's only normal that they decide it this way. Especially since their criteria emphasises the strength of the lineup (# of players) over the strength of individual players.

2) Despite the name, these are only spin-off tournaments, not leagues. Also see: IPL.
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