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I cannot be bothered watching this show anymore, personally I would like the other 3 gentlemen to look back on this episode and watch how Painuser behaved himself. As great as some analogies from DjWheat can get, its not worth going through the 2 hours of kids throwing feces at each other.
I hope I come back to this thread in a week or two from now and read the new episodes are a lot better than this one.
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On October 25 2012 01:13 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:06 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 01:00 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 00:56 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 00:31 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:27 xzidez wrote:
I hate to admit it but destiny is right. Don't you remember the shitstorm that spread through internet like a wildfire when blizzard announced that you had to use real name on the official forums after BNet 2.0 release ?
Its not that blizzard doesn't care. Its that they care even more about the actual $$ they get on the game.. and this crap is the worst PR nightmare they can possible get. There is no way they can avoid it now, similar to when they said you were supposed to use your real name.
If we people would just have sucked it up like idra and incontrol is suggesting and doing "what we can" instead of getting all mental over the forums.. we would have been forced to use real names.. And guess what? We don't..,. EXACTLY what the fuck can we do!!?? rhetorical question we can not do jack shit as a community with out blizzard what is the community going to get together in a huge circle jerk and hack blizzard so we can implement the changes we want? the problems ly with blizzard so idra and incontrols point that we as a community can only do what we do is fucking ridiculous we cant do shit about blizzard being fucked only blizzard can. Did you even read what I wrote? What we can do is show Blizzard that its not acceptable the way it works now. Of course we cant make the actual implementations ourselves, but we can show blizzard that this is something that we need. Similar to how "we" handled the real name issue. And that's the part that I hate to admit.. The only way to get blizzard to actually listen is go full shitstorm... kinda how everything looks right now. So I wouldn't be suprised to see a blue within the next week announcing something that will "soothe" us down..Exactly how its always been with Blizzard. Oh, and another matter to prove my point. Chats was NOT a part of Bnet 2.0... people went fucking mental on forums.. behaved like assholes in response to the "Do you really want chat rooms?"-bullshit. And look where we are now.. we have chat rooms.. even if its a bad implementation. Question: Does the LoL client have chat rooms? I have never noticed them beyond the party options, which B.net 2.0 has. I know Valve does and they are "passable", though mostly filled with trade spamming. Yes it does...Bottom right beside your friend list (Just like in Bnet) Why are we not freaking out at Riot for not having chat rooms? Also, LoL launched in 2009 without replays or spectator mode. Also no system to punish people for DCing and a limited reporting system. And no replays. Spectator mode was not added until May, 2012. So it took them three years to add in spectator mode and it was added 5 months ago.
1. because we dont play the game?
2. because they do have chatrooms?
Chatrooms where just an example I useds to show that the community CAN influence blizzard to implement stuffs.
And you see yourself.. they are constantly listening to the community and implementing stuffs that helps the game grow.. how about sc2 what have we gotten over the last 2 years?
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On October 25 2012 01:13 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:06 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 01:00 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 00:56 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 00:31 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:27 xzidez wrote:
I hate to admit it but destiny is right. Don't you remember the shitstorm that spread through internet like a wildfire when blizzard announced that you had to use real name on the official forums after BNet 2.0 release ?
Its not that blizzard doesn't care. Its that they care even more about the actual $$ they get on the game.. and this crap is the worst PR nightmare they can possible get. There is no way they can avoid it now, similar to when they said you were supposed to use your real name.
If we people would just have sucked it up like idra and incontrol is suggesting and doing "what we can" instead of getting all mental over the forums.. we would have been forced to use real names.. And guess what? We don't..,. EXACTLY what the fuck can we do!!?? rhetorical question we can not do jack shit as a community with out blizzard what is the community going to get together in a huge circle jerk and hack blizzard so we can implement the changes we want? the problems ly with blizzard so idra and incontrols point that we as a community can only do what we do is fucking ridiculous we cant do shit about blizzard being fucked only blizzard can. Did you even read what I wrote? What we can do is show Blizzard that its not acceptable the way it works now. Of course we cant make the actual implementations ourselves, but we can show blizzard that this is something that we need. Similar to how "we" handled the real name issue. And that's the part that I hate to admit.. The only way to get blizzard to actually listen is go full shitstorm... kinda how everything looks right now. So I wouldn't be suprised to see a blue within the next week announcing something that will "soothe" us down..Exactly how its always been with Blizzard. Oh, and another matter to prove my point. Chats was NOT a part of Bnet 2.0... people went fucking mental on forums.. behaved like assholes in response to the "Do you really want chat rooms?"-bullshit. And look where we are now.. we have chat rooms.. even if its a bad implementation. Question: Does the LoL client have chat rooms? I have never noticed them beyond the party options, which B.net 2.0 has. I know Valve does and they are "passable", though mostly filled with trade spamming. Yes it does...Bottom right beside your friend list (Just like in Bnet) Why are we not freaking out at Riot for not having chat rooms? Also, LoL launched in 2009 without replays or spectator mode. Also no system to punish people for DCing and a limited reporting system. And no replays. Spectator mode was not added until May, 2012. So it took them three years to add in spectator mode and it was added 5 months ago.
We aren't freaking out at them because they weren't a huge company... Blizzard made millions before Starcraft2 came out. At least they are actively trying to improve their game. Can't say the same about Blizzard. How can you go from a good Starcraft: Broodwar online experience to a shit Starcraft2 online experience? Why are we going backwards?
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On October 25 2012 00:22 colossusFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 00:19 eauxlune wrote:On October 25 2012 00:17 colossusFTW wrote:
The real question is DID YOU WATCH THE SHOW? Incontrol ranted and insulted destiny for 15 straight fucking minutes before destiny got on the show and destiny joins completely calm THEN incontrol typical does a rndy savage impression of destiny screaming into the mic wtf is destiny just supposed to not say anything ? Its such a double fucking standard that incontrol can act like this but destiny retorts and he's unacceptable. And lets not forget the self proclaimed face of e-sports (hahahahaha) incontrol acted like this and started it first. Dude. They both flamed each other constantly for 15 minutes. Neither "started it". They both had childish flames at each other. They both didn't listen or understand the other side. They both repeated the same shit. More people like Destiny. That's the LCD. Stop blind fanboying. NOBODY STARTED IT HAHAHAHAHA even after incontrol bashed destiny for 15 minutes before he got on destiny got in on call and said whats up guys I heard shits going down on here. And incontrol typically started yelling saying how stupid he was if Incontrol didnt start just kill me now
- You're pulling numbers out of your ass just as much as Destiny (no wonder you're a blind fanboy), watch it again, it was a 5 min rant from incontrol before destiny came on, even tho you seem 100% sure it was 15 min as you've said it like 10 times now.
- Again, watch the whole thing again, excluding the randy savage thing, Destiny was the only one to scream, Destiny was the only one to interupt Painuser (who pretty much everyone agrees on was the most reasonable person in the show).
- As soon as someone asked Destiny a question, he would just dodge it and scream the same thing over and over.
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djwheats pajamas outbreak was the highlight of the day :DDD
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I just watched episode 57 and I honestly feel like this'll be my last. Four people in that episode appeared absolutely asinine and immature, with the only exception being PainUser.
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On October 25 2012 01:11 colossusFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:07 Golbat wrote:On October 25 2012 00:43 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:36 vultdylan wrote:On October 25 2012 00:31 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:27 xzidez wrote:
I hate to admit it but destiny is right. Don't you remember the shitstorm that spread through internet like a wildfire when blizzard announced that you had to use real name on the official forums after BNet 2.0 release ?
Its not that blizzard doesn't care. Its that they care even more about the actual $$ they get on the game.. and this crap is the worst PR nightmare they can possible get. There is no way they can avoid it now, similar to when they said you were supposed to use your real name.
If we people would just have sucked it up like idra and incontrol is suggesting and doing "what we can" instead of getting all mental over the forums.. we would have been forced to use real names.. And guess what? We don't..,. EXACTLY what the fuck can we do!!?? rhetorical question we can not do jack shit as a community with out blizzard what is the community going to get together in a huge circle jerk and hack blizzard so we can implement the changes we want? the problems ly with blizzard so idra and incontrols point that we as a community can only do what we do is fucking ridiculous we cant do shit about blizzard being fucked only blizzard can. They weren't trying to say that the community can influence what Blizzard is doing, they even said it. They said there is no use trying to coerce Blizzard into changing the game because even after two years of trying to do that, they have had enough of the lack of response on Blizzard's end. It is what the community can do to increase the quality of production of things like tournaments and leagues to increase interest in e-sports that they want to work for. They know they can't change the game that Blizzard makes, but rather the way the public views it and how competition is put out there. BTW clean up your vocabulary. I have seen you on other threads, and it is rather immature. And it doesn't help your case. But if the community can't get blizzard to do anything how is this game to stay alive the entire point here is that getting sponsors and shit isnt going to help THE CASUAL GAMER. Without casual gamers you have no community. Nobody in this thread is a professional gamer we are all casual gamers and while we might be already hooked on starcraft you need new fans we cannot survive forever on the same community we have had for years. The point destiny is making is that you need more casual gamers for a community and at this point in time there is no incentive to play this game unless you are a professional. So when people go on their computer they say holy shit why the fuck would I play sc2 when I could play a user friendly game like dota2 or LoL. The only thing the community CAN do is be the community. We're here for SC2. That's all we can actually do. I wish we could just tweet at Blizzard every time we wanted something to get done, but unfortunately that isn't possible. What you and I can do for starcraft is stick around, support tournaments and players by watching streams and shows and stuff. I haven't played a game of SC2 in months, but I'm still a part of the SC2 community. The community should focus on making the best viewer experience they can, and hopefully that will cause people to come in and see it and stay. So with that logic were just suppose to sit here and let blizzard shit on us and we stay despite getting treated like dogshit? thats is terrible fucking logic. When everyone has switched to LoL itll be to late for blizzard to say we fucked up were going to change that
Why are you being so hostile?
You aren't listening to what I'm saying. This isn't about Blizzard at all. They are "shitting on" no one, and no one is being "treated like dogshit". They're doing what they think is best for their business interest. If we can't trust that their objectives coincide with our objectives, we need to take control of our own direction and do what we can to make the game the best we can. Not everyone is going to switch to LoL. I certainly am not. And they aren't mutually exclusive anyways. If I did like LoL, I don't see what would stop me from watching both games.
But either way, if we can't make Blizzard fix the problems there are with SC2, then we just have to work within the same confines of SC2 as we've had for the past 2 years. It's not really a big deal. I'll still watch MLG, GSL and all the other tournaments. I'll still watch IdrA's stream, iNcontroL's stream, Destiny's stream, and DJWheat's shows. Because that's something I can actually do to support the scene.
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absolutely disgusting, just a big circlejerk of a show
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On October 25 2012 01:21 Desertfaux wrote:
I cannot be bothered watching this show anymore, personally I would like the other 3 gentlemen to look back on this episode and watch how Painuser behaved himself. As great as some analogies from DjWheat can get, its not worth going through the 2 hours of kids throwing feces at each other.
I hope I come back to this thread in a week or two from now and read the new episodes are a lot better than this one.
This, this and this. That episode was mostly just passionate young men arguing without bothering to listen to one another. To me it seemed like a big ego war, on both sides.
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On October 25 2012 01:11 colossusFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:07 Golbat wrote:On October 25 2012 00:43 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:36 vultdylan wrote:On October 25 2012 00:31 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:27 xzidez wrote:
I hate to admit it but destiny is right. Don't you remember the shitstorm that spread through internet like a wildfire when blizzard announced that you had to use real name on the official forums after BNet 2.0 release ?
Its not that blizzard doesn't care. Its that they care even more about the actual $$ they get on the game.. and this crap is the worst PR nightmare they can possible get. There is no way they can avoid it now, similar to when they said you were supposed to use your real name.
If we people would just have sucked it up like idra and incontrol is suggesting and doing "what we can" instead of getting all mental over the forums.. we would have been forced to use real names.. And guess what? We don't..,. EXACTLY what the fuck can we do!!?? rhetorical question we can not do jack shit as a community with out blizzard what is the community going to get together in a huge circle jerk and hack blizzard so we can implement the changes we want? the problems ly with blizzard so idra and incontrols point that we as a community can only do what we do is fucking ridiculous we cant do shit about blizzard being fucked only blizzard can. They weren't trying to say that the community can influence what Blizzard is doing, they even said it. They said there is no use trying to coerce Blizzard into changing the game because even after two years of trying to do that, they have had enough of the lack of response on Blizzard's end. It is what the community can do to increase the quality of production of things like tournaments and leagues to increase interest in e-sports that they want to work for. They know they can't change the game that Blizzard makes, but rather the way the public views it and how competition is put out there. BTW clean up your vocabulary. I have seen you on other threads, and it is rather immature. And it doesn't help your case. But if the community can't get blizzard to do anything how is this game to stay alive the entire point here is that getting sponsors and shit isnt going to help THE CASUAL GAMER. Without casual gamers you have no community. Nobody in this thread is a professional gamer we are all casual gamers and while we might be already hooked on starcraft you need new fans we cannot survive forever on the same community we have had for years. The point destiny is making is that you need more casual gamers for a community and at this point in time there is no incentive to play this game unless you are a professional. So when people go on their computer they say holy shit why the fuck would I play sc2 when I could play a user friendly game like dota2 or LoL. The only thing the community CAN do is be the community. We're here for SC2. That's all we can actually do. I wish we could just tweet at Blizzard every time we wanted something to get done, but unfortunately that isn't possible. What you and I can do for starcraft is stick around, support tournaments and players by watching streams and shows and stuff. I haven't played a game of SC2 in months, but I'm still a part of the SC2 community. The community should focus on making the best viewer experience they can, and hopefully that will cause people to come in and see it and stay. So with that logic were just suppose to sit here and let blizzard shit on us and we stay despite getting treated like dogshit? thats is terrible fucking logic. When everyone has switched to LoL itll be to late for blizzard to say we fucked up were going to change that
no, we fucking stay here because we love SC2, we either love to watch it or to play it or both, and we will keep nagging blizzard about all this issues. This is NOT a new issue, people been rightfully bitching to blizzard about this since the game came out and if ever they fix everything that is asked we will find new things to ask because we love the game. What the community can do is keep what they are doing and improving on it, try to get more content out there, try to get more people to enjoy the game and help wherever we can. I, and most people on TL i would suppose, am here because i do enjoy SC2, and games will always be restricted by what they are in their true nature. All i am going to do is keep following the scene and the game BECAUSE I ENJOY IT, and people like djwheat, day9, incontrol, tastosis, etc will keep putting out the content because they enjoy doing it and there are still people who care for more then numbers. That is the fault in destiny doomsday prophecy, SC2 started because people enjoyed it, and it will keep going on when people who dont realy enjoy it and just jump on it because it is the trend leave
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The people are forwarding that on to /r/ShitRedditsays and asking them to contact EG's sponsors are absolute assholes btw - Another reason why SC2Reddit is just a rash to the game
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On October 25 2012 01:23 Urasim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:13 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 01:06 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 01:00 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 00:56 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 00:31 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:27 xzidez wrote:
I hate to admit it but destiny is right. Don't you remember the shitstorm that spread through internet like a wildfire when blizzard announced that you had to use real name on the official forums after BNet 2.0 release ?
Its not that blizzard doesn't care. Its that they care even more about the actual $$ they get on the game.. and this crap is the worst PR nightmare they can possible get. There is no way they can avoid it now, similar to when they said you were supposed to use your real name.
If we people would just have sucked it up like idra and incontrol is suggesting and doing "what we can" instead of getting all mental over the forums.. we would have been forced to use real names.. And guess what? We don't..,. EXACTLY what the fuck can we do!!?? rhetorical question we can not do jack shit as a community with out blizzard what is the community going to get together in a huge circle jerk and hack blizzard so we can implement the changes we want? the problems ly with blizzard so idra and incontrols point that we as a community can only do what we do is fucking ridiculous we cant do shit about blizzard being fucked only blizzard can. Did you even read what I wrote? What we can do is show Blizzard that its not acceptable the way it works now. Of course we cant make the actual implementations ourselves, but we can show blizzard that this is something that we need. Similar to how "we" handled the real name issue. And that's the part that I hate to admit.. The only way to get blizzard to actually listen is go full shitstorm... kinda how everything looks right now. So I wouldn't be suprised to see a blue within the next week announcing something that will "soothe" us down..Exactly how its always been with Blizzard. Oh, and another matter to prove my point. Chats was NOT a part of Bnet 2.0... people went fucking mental on forums.. behaved like assholes in response to the "Do you really want chat rooms?"-bullshit. And look where we are now.. we have chat rooms.. even if its a bad implementation. Question: Does the LoL client have chat rooms? I have never noticed them beyond the party options, which B.net 2.0 has. I know Valve does and they are "passable", though mostly filled with trade spamming. Yes it does...Bottom right beside your friend list (Just like in Bnet) Why are we not freaking out at Riot for not having chat rooms? Also, LoL launched in 2009 without replays or spectator mode. Also no system to punish people for DCing and a limited reporting system. And no replays. Spectator mode was not added until May, 2012. So it took them three years to add in spectator mode and it was added 5 months ago. We aren't freaking out at them because they weren't a huge company... Blizzard made millions before Starcraft2 came out. At least they are actively trying to improve their game. Can't say the same about Blizzard. How can you go from a good Starcraft: Broodwar online experience to a shit Starcraft2 online experience? Why are we going backwards?
Blizzard is a huge company, but they make a lot of games. Most of their staff is made up of people maintaining WoW. Even the larges development companies only have a staff of 200-300 people. That is for huge games, like Uncharted and Assassins Creed. Riot has a staff of around 100, which is likely less that the staff for SC2, but there is no way that Blizzard has over 300 people working on SC2. It is likely less. The changes people want are huge and will take time to program, test and make work.
There are huge posts on Bnet every way where the Blizzard responds to the community. They just posted a huge one about custom maps and adding the haywire missiles to the Thor to see how it worked. They tested out the modified movement system and found it to not change all that much, but they looked into it.
Blizzard is giving people what they want if they look to find the responses. They said yesterday there is no way for them to see everything.
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On October 25 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:
The people are forwarding that on to /r/ShitRedditsays and asking them to contact EG's sponsors are absolute assholes btw - Another reason why SC2Reddit is just a rash to the game
tbf reddit is a rash to most things, not just sc2
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Well done watching itg now, sadly I like slasher and scoots to much to drop lo3. I respect what wheat has done in the past for esports as a whole but I haven't seen him do something that I would qualify as quality in a long time.
Painuser gets mad respect for staying calm at destiny and then incontrol trying to piss him off.
And as much as I hate the "frat house" shit, the way idra and incontrol acted was the definition of douchey fratboys.
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On October 25 2012 01:36 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:23 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 01:13 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 01:06 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 01:00 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 00:56 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 00:31 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:27 xzidez wrote:
I hate to admit it but destiny is right. Don't you remember the shitstorm that spread through internet like a wildfire when blizzard announced that you had to use real name on the official forums after BNet 2.0 release ?
Its not that blizzard doesn't care. Its that they care even more about the actual $$ they get on the game.. and this crap is the worst PR nightmare they can possible get. There is no way they can avoid it now, similar to when they said you were supposed to use your real name.
If we people would just have sucked it up like idra and incontrol is suggesting and doing "what we can" instead of getting all mental over the forums.. we would have been forced to use real names.. And guess what? We don't..,. EXACTLY what the fuck can we do!!?? rhetorical question we can not do jack shit as a community with out blizzard what is the community going to get together in a huge circle jerk and hack blizzard so we can implement the changes we want? the problems ly with blizzard so idra and incontrols point that we as a community can only do what we do is fucking ridiculous we cant do shit about blizzard being fucked only blizzard can. Did you even read what I wrote? What we can do is show Blizzard that its not acceptable the way it works now. Of course we cant make the actual implementations ourselves, but we can show blizzard that this is something that we need. Similar to how "we" handled the real name issue. And that's the part that I hate to admit.. The only way to get blizzard to actually listen is go full shitstorm... kinda how everything looks right now. So I wouldn't be suprised to see a blue within the next week announcing something that will "soothe" us down..Exactly how its always been with Blizzard. Oh, and another matter to prove my point. Chats was NOT a part of Bnet 2.0... people went fucking mental on forums.. behaved like assholes in response to the "Do you really want chat rooms?"-bullshit. And look where we are now.. we have chat rooms.. even if its a bad implementation. Question: Does the LoL client have chat rooms? I have never noticed them beyond the party options, which B.net 2.0 has. I know Valve does and they are "passable", though mostly filled with trade spamming. Yes it does...Bottom right beside your friend list (Just like in Bnet) Why are we not freaking out at Riot for not having chat rooms? Also, LoL launched in 2009 without replays or spectator mode. Also no system to punish people for DCing and a limited reporting system. And no replays. Spectator mode was not added until May, 2012. So it took them three years to add in spectator mode and it was added 5 months ago. We aren't freaking out at them because they weren't a huge company... Blizzard made millions before Starcraft2 came out. At least they are actively trying to improve their game. Can't say the same about Blizzard. How can you go from a good Starcraft: Broodwar online experience to a shit Starcraft2 online experience? Why are we going backwards? Blizzard is a huge company, but they make a lot of games. Most of their staff is made up of people maintaining WoW. Even the larges development companies only have a staff of 200-300 people. That is for huge games, like Uncharted and Assassins Creed. Riot has a staff of around 100, which is likely less that the staff for SC2, but there is no way that Blizzard has over 300 people working on SC2. It is likely less. The changes people want are huge and will take time to program, test and make work. There are huge posts on Bnet every way where the Blizzard responds to the community. They just posted a huge one about custom maps and adding the haywire missiles to the Thor to see how it worked. They tested out the modified movement system and found it to not change all that much, but they looked into it. Blizzard is giving people what they want if they look to find the responses. They said yesterday there is no way for them to see everything. .
But Plansix Reddit needs instant gratification. Without it they will continue to canabalize the scene and do nothing but perpetuate a really negative attitude.
Personally I wish the mods over there would just take a stand and stop all this BS thats been going on :/
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On October 25 2012 01:35 Mackus wrote:
The people are forwarding that on to /r/ShitRedditsays and asking them to contact EG's sponsors are absolute assholes btw - Another reason why SC2Reddit is just a rash to the game
Awesome, trolls unite to ruin everything. Notice how no one is contacting owned.tv to de-list/block Destiny. Some people just want to see the world burn.
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http://i.imgur.com/ufQt0.jpg
Destiny links 1 iNcontrol's comments from Reddit on Twitter and these are just half of the responses he gets.
Absolute hideous people with Destiny being the instigator of it all, seriously fuck him.
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Not going to watch inside the frathouse anymore. You really burned your ships wheat.
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The thing is, Destiny was an absolute ass the entire time and copped out at the end, and I was agreeing with what IdrA, inControl and Wheat were saying but they came off so poorly in how they argued that the entire end of that episode was a shit-show.
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On October 25 2012 01:40 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:36 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 01:23 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 01:13 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 01:06 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 01:00 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 00:56 xzidez wrote:On October 25 2012 00:31 colossusFTW wrote:On October 25 2012 00:27 xzidez wrote:
I hate to admit it but destiny is right. Don't you remember the shitstorm that spread through internet like a wildfire when blizzard announced that you had to use real name on the official forums after BNet 2.0 release ?
Its not that blizzard doesn't care. Its that they care even more about the actual $$ they get on the game.. and this crap is the worst PR nightmare they can possible get. There is no way they can avoid it now, similar to when they said you were supposed to use your real name.
If we people would just have sucked it up like idra and incontrol is suggesting and doing "what we can" instead of getting all mental over the forums.. we would have been forced to use real names.. And guess what? We don't..,. EXACTLY what the fuck can we do!!?? rhetorical question we can not do jack shit as a community with out blizzard what is the community going to get together in a huge circle jerk and hack blizzard so we can implement the changes we want? the problems ly with blizzard so idra and incontrols point that we as a community can only do what we do is fucking ridiculous we cant do shit about blizzard being fucked only blizzard can. Did you even read what I wrote? What we can do is show Blizzard that its not acceptable the way it works now. Of course we cant make the actual implementations ourselves, but we can show blizzard that this is something that we need. Similar to how "we" handled the real name issue. And that's the part that I hate to admit.. The only way to get blizzard to actually listen is go full shitstorm... kinda how everything looks right now. So I wouldn't be suprised to see a blue within the next week announcing something that will "soothe" us down..Exactly how its always been with Blizzard. Oh, and another matter to prove my point. Chats was NOT a part of Bnet 2.0... people went fucking mental on forums.. behaved like assholes in response to the "Do you really want chat rooms?"-bullshit. And look where we are now.. we have chat rooms.. even if its a bad implementation. Question: Does the LoL client have chat rooms? I have never noticed them beyond the party options, which B.net 2.0 has. I know Valve does and they are "passable", though mostly filled with trade spamming. Yes it does...Bottom right beside your friend list (Just like in Bnet) Why are we not freaking out at Riot for not having chat rooms? Also, LoL launched in 2009 without replays or spectator mode. Also no system to punish people for DCing and a limited reporting system. And no replays. Spectator mode was not added until May, 2012. So it took them three years to add in spectator mode and it was added 5 months ago. We aren't freaking out at them because they weren't a huge company... Blizzard made millions before Starcraft2 came out. At least they are actively trying to improve their game. Can't say the same about Blizzard. How can you go from a good Starcraft: Broodwar online experience to a shit Starcraft2 online experience? Why are we going backwards? Blizzard is a huge company, but they make a lot of games. Most of their staff is made up of people maintaining WoW. Even the larges development companies only have a staff of 200-300 people. That is for huge games, like Uncharted and Assassins Creed. Riot has a staff of around 100, which is likely less that the staff for SC2, but there is no way that Blizzard has over 300 people working on SC2. It is likely less. The changes people want are huge and will take time to program, test and make work. There are huge posts on Bnet every way where the Blizzard responds to the community. They just posted a huge one about custom maps and adding the haywire missiles to the Thor to see how it worked. They tested out the modified movement system and found it to not change all that much, but they looked into it. Blizzard is giving people what they want if they look to find the responses. They said yesterday there is no way for them to see everything. . But Plansix Reddit needs instant gratification. Without it they will continue to canabalize the scene and do nothing but perpetuate a really negative attitude. Personally I wish the mods over there would just take a stand and stop all this BS thats been going on :/
I totally agree. This community is going to destroy itself long before anything outside does. To much power is given to a small group of people screaming at all hours. I love the game and the players, but I work a full time job and I can only do so much. These people seem to have endless free time fill the entire community with bile and venom.
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