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Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
May 03 2011 00:54 GMT
#101
As a protoss, I now know what terrans used to feel like (or maybe still do feel like) a few months ago. Every game I play and win, I encounter QQ. Especially from zerg.

I'm biased against terran. XD
www.twitch.tv/wyrd5
noezke
Profile Joined September 2010
England514 Posts
May 03 2011 00:57 GMT
#102
Bias: Terran
Hatred: Protoss

Original right? :d
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
May 03 2011 01:05 GMT
#103
Cool poll idea, from the results so far it looks like TL is heavy on zerg players. And its funny, usually when I am on i see a lot of zerg players streaming on the featured streams.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 01:07:34
May 03 2011 01:05 GMT
#104
I played terran in beta, and currently play protoss on my sea account, and I've been messing around with zerg on the ptr recently (will probably play as zerg on my na account).

I used to think zergs were overdoing the QQ, but now I kinda understand what zergs go through .Most of the time you think your ahead cause you've got one base more and more workers (mostly) and when a good two base timing push that wipes you clean comes, or you might have forgotten that one key overseer, and now you've got dts or banshees in your line, and it's pretty much gg at that point. it tends to leave you fuming (I had one more base and more workers than him waah!), so it's probably them letting some steam out.

As for hating a race..naah, I dont think I hate any, basically cheese is what gets hate occasionally, and any race can do that.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
May 03 2011 01:16 GMT
#105
On May 03 2011 07:38 TheBlueMeaner wrote:
I think zvt has been figured out, whenever I see a zvt game I know what to expect and I know that there is a decent chance zerg might win, but whenever I see zvp I just don't know what crazy new strategy the zerg will try, and I know before the game starts that the zerg's chances of winning are slim.

by the way, "random" is not a race, "random" is an excuse for a mediocre player to cheese the hell out of another play by abusing the hidden race advantage, whenever I face a random player I know not to respect him and expect the worst half assed cheeses, I then proceed to dance my units after I beat the crap out him.



Srsly, random is the race I hate the most. Almost everyone who plays random just totally irredeemably sucks but wants to convince themselves otherwise by doing some retardcheese with their massive early game advantage. At least T/p/Z players mostly know how to play solid games and have actual skills.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 01:35:05
May 03 2011 01:33 GMT
#106
so, the general view on random players: they will cheese.

this is good to know

i honestly dont know why ppl cry about cheese...its good to know how to defend against cheese. if failed, there is no one to blame except yourself. i get mad when i lose to cheese, mad at me, not the other player. i welcome cheese, its actually fun defending it.
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Mirdini
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 01:36:55
May 03 2011 01:36 GMT
#107
On May 03 2011 05:59 MonkeyMaan wrote:
soo.. what if I am random and I do so since I like all three races? :/


I feel the same way, I like playing all three races and feel that while balance fluctuations may occur every race is generally reasonably balanced.
A witty saying proves nothing.
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
May 03 2011 01:36 GMT
#108
On May 03 2011 09:54 Wyrd wrote:
As a protoss, I now know what terrans used to feel like (or maybe still do feel like) a few months ago. Every game I play and win, I encounter QQ. Especially from zerg.

I'm biased against terran. XD

if it means anything i play zerg and i still get QQ'd when i beat zerg
Better than Pokebunny
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
May 03 2011 01:42 GMT
#109
On May 03 2011 10:36 Foreplay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 09:54 Wyrd wrote:
As a protoss, I now know what terrans used to feel like (or maybe still do feel like) a few months ago. Every game I play and win, I encounter QQ. Especially from zerg.

I'm biased against terran. XD

if it means anything i play zerg and i still get QQ'd when i beat zerg

kyle you're imbalanced
~o~ I have returned
ridonkulous
Profile Joined May 2011
159 Posts
May 03 2011 01:47 GMT
#110
played zerg for majority of beta(switched to T) and now i hate this race, dont know why, i used to love it but nowadays i even cheer for toss when pvz is played.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 02:09:40
May 03 2011 02:02 GMT
#111
On May 03 2011 10:16 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 07:38 TheBlueMeaner wrote:
I think zvt has been figured out, whenever I see a zvt game I know what to expect and I know that there is a decent chance zerg might win, but whenever I see zvp I just don't know what crazy new strategy the zerg will try, and I know before the game starts that the zerg's chances of winning are slim.

by the way, "random" is not a race, "random" is an excuse for a mediocre player to cheese the hell out of another play by abusing the hidden race advantage, whenever I face a random player I know not to respect him and expect the worst half assed cheeses, I then proceed to dance my units after I beat the crap out him.



Srsly, random is the race I hate the most. Almost everyone who plays random just totally irredeemably sucks but wants to convince themselves otherwise by doing some retardcheese with their massive early game advantage. At least T/p/Z players mostly know how to play solid games and have actual skills.



I've never 4 gated/6pooled/2raxed/etc since becoming random. We aren't all bad
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Valcio
Profile Joined January 2011
Mexico64 Posts
May 03 2011 02:57 GMT
#112
On May 03 2011 07:15 EternaL_9 wrote:
Big surprise.. TL is full of Idra fan-boy (hence his fan page) who hate protoss! Even though protoss has received only nerfs and zerg has received only buffs the past few months.

Basically when a zerg hates on a protoss for being OP this is what he is really saying "How dare you figure out how to play your race after being nerfed! fag op toss!

I know for a fact if IdrA didn't complain about balance so much, all of this protoss hate wouldn't exist (to this large of an extent).


Figure out their race? yea, thats why they use only 4 units on all matchups.
Yea, jelly donuts can be scary some times-Mokou
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 03 2011 03:08 GMT
#113
What is this? The title is misleading and doesn't have a poll for what we play. The polls themselves don't even have "no bias" and "no hate" options.

Your OP doesn't even do a good job of explaining anything. What is the context of this "bias"? Is it when Liquibetting? Is it who we have a softer side for when we cheer? Because in that case, fuck yeah Random!

For the record, I play Zerg, am "biased" towards Protoss, and don't hate any race. Did we learn anything with that information? No.
#TeamBuLba
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 03:52:46
May 03 2011 03:47 GMT
#114
The point is not to figure out what you play. Its to figure out what TL has a bias towards. If you play it, you will generally have a bias to it.

There really is no way for you to play a specific race and say you are not bias to it. It's impossible. You are obviously bias because you play it all the time. Your opinion is based on your experiences playing that race. If most of TL plays zerg then their opinion is mostly based on playing Zerg. If you think that has no bearing on how TL feels about patch notes or tournament results, you are dead wrong.

While its true that there are people that play random and don't have a bias, they are much more rare. Also someone who has a bias but plays something else is also pretty low. Like artosis has a bias for zerg even though he plays toss now.

Its pretty obvious to see what we have learned so far.

Out of ~1000 people who voted on this pole, these are the conclusions we can come up with.

1) Zergs like to vote on poles more than other races
2) Zerg is a dominant race on TL
3) As of this time, people do not like playing against protoss

(NOTE: just because its a conclusion, doesn't make it true)

Now there are factors that affect this poll of course. This is not all of TL. Its a sample of TL. The more votes the more we learn obviously so while your specific vote doesn't teach us anything, it does make the results of this pole that much more valid.

It probably was an oversight to not include random players who don't have a bias. I will not deny that. However, I think these answers don't give an easy way out to just assume you are not bias.

(sick of word bias lol)
NotCptKirk
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany165 Posts
May 03 2011 10:23 GMT
#115
On May 03 2011 11:57 Valcio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 07:15 EternaL_9 wrote:
Big surprise.. TL is full of Idra fan-boy (hence his fan page) who hate protoss! Even though protoss has received only nerfs and zerg has received only buffs the past few months.

Basically when a zerg hates on a protoss for being OP this is what he is really saying "How dare you figure out how to play your race after being nerfed! fag op toss!

I know for a fact if IdrA didn't complain about balance so much, all of this protoss hate wouldn't exist (to this large of an extent).


Figure out their race? yea, thats why they use only 4 units on all matchups.


It's called efficiency Also: Zealot, Stalker, Sentry, Colossus and Void Ray makes 5 units...

Joking aside, DTs are always an option mid- and lategame, HTs have been used to great success lately and also phoenixes and immortals are used quite often. Mothership was nerfed, and carriers are not really a valid choice.

I don't really get your point.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 10:31:14
May 03 2011 10:24 GMT
#116
On May 03 2011 07:38 TheBlueMeaner wrote:
I think zvt has been figured out, whenever I see a zvt game I know what to expect and I know that there is a decent chance zerg might win, but whenever I see zvp I just don't know what crazy new strategy the zerg will try, and I know before the game starts that the zerg's chances of winning are slim.

by the way, "random" is not a race, "random" is an excuse for a mediocre player to cheese the hell out of another play by abusing the hidden race advantage, whenever I face a random player I know not to respect him and expect the worst half assed cheeses, I then proceed to dance my units after I beat the crap out him.


Uhm yeah buddy that is quite a big generalization.... Myself and the random player i know play it for diversity.

I kinda agree with the part about ZvP though,.

On May 03 2011 10:16 Drowsy wrote:

Srsly, random is the race I hate the most. Almost everyone who plays random just totally irredeemably sucks but wants to convince themselves otherwise by doing some retardcheese with their massive early game advantage. At least T/p/Z players mostly know how to play solid games and have actual skills.


Damn alot of Random haters there seems. Oh well if people expect me cheesing then i guess i catch them off guard, not bad
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 03 2011 19:20 GMT
#117
Random players, man. Scout last on DQ 6 lings in mah base. You can't explain that.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
May 03 2011 19:23 GMT
#118
Wow, so much Protoss hate...why, guys?
Just another gold Protoss...
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 03 2011 19:28 GMT
#119
Because it's clearly imbalanced! Dude! The deathball! zomg! I personally blame IdrA for all protoss hate. He was vocal about it before anyone else was and who do you think TL zergs listen to :D
get rich or die mining
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captainwaffles
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1050 Posts
May 03 2011 19:28 GMT
#120
idra was hating on protoss before is was cool
https://x.com/CaptainWaffless
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