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SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 03:50:36
April 22 2011 11:21 GMT
#1
Hello fellow StarCraft enthusiasts and players around the world, my name is SoBadRush, I’m am the caster for TV broadcasts of Taiwan’s TeSL. Recently the league has been discussing the possibility of opening up to non-Taiwan players next season (starting in August). While I must emphasize that this is NOT yet a finally decision (both the league and teams want to be careful in how they handle this, and there is still a possibility that it might be postponed to a future season), I wanted to let everyone know that this is indeed a possibility and also gauge the interest of international players and the international community by getting everyone’s feedback. If you are a competitive player please let me know what you think, if you know someone who might be, please share this info with them! Thanks everyone!

If you don't know about the TeSL yet:
Here is a detailed introduction:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203564
Here is Artosis' video introduction:

Sen's NASL application also includes a short TeSL tour:


I put together a simple FAQ so that you can know what being a pro SCII player for the TeSL in Taiwan would entail. Remember, TeSL has NOT yet decided for sure to let Foreign players join this season, so everything below is based on the assumption that things work out for next season.

How many foreign players can join?
Like I said both the league and teams want to be cautious about this process. For the first season it appears that every team will be allowed one foreign player, therefore there would be a total of 5 spots open. The TeSL is a work in progress, and if everything goes well with the first group of 5 players I’m sure there will be more opportunities in the future.

What are the benefits like?
Simply put: You will not get rich (from the base salary anyway), but if you have a good attitude you will have the experience of a lifetime. Base salary for most players is around $US 1,000 per month (with housing and most food being paid for), however exceptional players may be able to negotiate a higher salary with the team. Ask anyone who has been to Taiwan, the people are friendly and the food is delicious. In Taiwan you will be able to experience traditional Asian culture with most of the Western comforts you are used to. You will be expected to practice and go to events with the team (there are autograph signings and other events all over the island where players interact with fans), but you will get to experience being a hero to many and maybe even the feelings of having screaming teenage girl fans

What kind of contract would I have to sign?
Honestly it’s still too early in the process to know for sure how this will work. Normally Taiwanese players sign with the team for 2 years. But I expect (but once again, I’m not sure!) that foreign players would be able to work out more flexible contracts with the team, maybe for a year or half a year, etc.

How will foreign players be selected?
The TeSL is a draft-based league, meaning that all new players must go through a draft selection where each team take turns choosing players (like seen in the NBA, etc.). Therefore foreign players wishing to play in the TeSL must also go through a draft, however it will likely be a separate draft. Also, players will not have to come to Taiwan for the draft (because not all who make themselves elligable will be picked), we will ask interested players to send in their info and RPs so that teams have a chance to evaluate all of the candidates.

What kind of players is TeSL looking for?
Well, aside from the obvious trait of being good at StarCraft II, the most important requirement is a good attitude, the ability to relocate to Taiwan, and being able to work well with others (This is a team league, not an individual league). Players do not need to learn Mandarin, but should be able to speak basic English (most Taiwanese can speak at least very simple English). With the 5 open slots we hope to get a nice balance of quality players from around the world. While we welcome players of all three of the StarCraft II races, we have a surplus of Protoss in the league right now, and lack of Zerg (Only 2 out of the current 19 players are Zerg). So even though teams will be looking for the best player available they might be more prone to take Zerg (or Terran) players of equal level over Protoss.

Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
April 22 2011 11:26 GMT
#2
this is something that sounds good and if i was better at sc2 id work my ass off just to do this for 6-12 months.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 22 2011 11:34 GMT
#3
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?

Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v
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SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
April 22 2011 11:37 GMT
#4
On April 22 2011 20:34 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?
Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v


No. Good question, I should add that in there. English will do. Although shy, most players/coaches can use simple English to communicate, and we all speak the common language of StarCraft so it should be fine.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
April 22 2011 11:45 GMT
#5
the moment you said that players get paid monthly as salary, ohhhh you're gonna get hell of alot of applications! TeSL fighting!
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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
April 22 2011 11:49 GMT
#6
Will foreign fans be able to watch the league anywhere? maybe some description of how the league runs would be better instead of just saying "This is a team league, not an individual league"

I'm really interested to know! =)
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 22 2011 11:57 GMT
#7
On April 22 2011 20:37 SoBaDRush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:34 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?
Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v


No. Good question, I should add that in there. English will do. Although shy, most players/coaches can use simple English to communicate, and we all speak the common language of StarCraft so it should be fine.

nice that you say about the common language of StarCraft

that's nice and good, same as korea (the players trying to actively learn english there too, such as MC), which is nice, and makes esports between the continents feel more...connected.

Also I should start relearning mandarin too...(since I kinda got out of the chinese school programs at like 3rd grade = =... (my grandparents were from China, my parents were born in Taiwan, and I was born in the states...so I guess the TeSL'll be a good reason for me to start relearning my chinese :D) hmm

well, good luck to the teams in taiwan at getting foreign players, and hope that the skill levels of all the countries would grow to rival one another

(= =; sorry for weird cheesy talk/random errors in my text.... 5am! I should sleep..)
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 22 2011 12:00 GMT
#8
This is a really good chance, would definitely go for it if I wanted to gather great experience!
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SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
April 22 2011 12:19 GMT
#9
On April 22 2011 20:49 johanngrunt wrote:
Will foreign fans be able to watch the league anywhere? maybe some description of how the league runs would be better instead of just saying "This is a team league, not an individual league"
I'm really interested to know! =)


There is information here as mentioned abovie:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203564

Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 22 2011 12:42 GMT
#10
Very impressive.

eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 22 2011 12:51 GMT
#11
It would be nice if TeSL starts to interact with the foreign community a bit more. Adding foreigners to the league is a great idea to make the TeSL more attractive to the foreign competitive scene, though I think there needs to be a better connection with foreign fans if the possible foreigner addition is to be successful.

It would be nice if the league was better publicized on TL. Perhaps some good ideas would be opening up a livestream and/or having threads tracking the league and VoDs.

It's great to see Taiwan have such a great e-sports league, and I really think that allowing foreigner competition and increasing publicity for foreigners would really allow more people to enjoy the league's great production values.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 22 2011 13:03 GMT
#12
Sounds pretty good, I could imagine some of the top weaker players doing this to make a name for themselves and improve and then maybe break into the GSL or become a tip top player?
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
April 22 2011 13:04 GMT
#13
Oh my god, this would be the coolest thing ever. Foreigners in TeSL. More teams. More everything.

Would love to see this!
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Dubsys
Profile Joined July 2007
Australia122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 13:09:48
April 22 2011 13:09 GMT
#14
this is one of those "once in a lifetime" experiences that would be really cool to go and try out, being in what is an amazing Asian country while being paid to play a game you love seems pretty cool.

by the way, SoBadRush you're very good looking
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Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 22 2011 13:23 GMT
#15
Well, when the qualifiers/drafts start i'll be there for sure ^_^
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
April 22 2011 13:27 GMT
#16
huhu that's something that I would definetely do
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Chinchillin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States259 Posts
April 22 2011 13:36 GMT
#17
^ seen that man stomp out some damn good competition.
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Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
April 22 2011 13:59 GMT
#18
Yea this is definitely one of those really cool opportunities, thanks for posting SoBaD! Essentially free rent/food, living and breathing Starcraft, being in Taiwan, pretty awesome :D
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#19
E-sports are going crazy atm. I wish you guys the best of luck regardless of whether you decide to involve foreign players or not.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 22 2011 21:22 GMT
#20
I can't believe this thread got buried! From the description, this seems like a better deal than GSL at the moment: a decent salary, training house, a chance to be on TV, living for a year in a place with some of the night-market food in the world! If I am any good with the game, I'd sign up in an instance!
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
April 22 2011 23:16 GMT
#21
Hey Sobad, count me in.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:19:11
April 22 2011 23:18 GMT
#22
Even though I'm graduating from college, if I were any good at SC2, I'd jump on this instantly. A year in a foreign country with room and board paid for? Heck yes!
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TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:23:15
April 22 2011 23:20 GMT
#23
This is amazing and fantastic to hear about interest in foreign players. I kinda wanna stop working and just play SC2 all day just for a chance XD. This is great news, and I hope you guys get insane amounts of applicants, as this is as you said, a once in a lifetime opportunity. Best of luck!


I do have a question, you mentioned having to re locate to Taiwan, this setup is very similar to the GSL foreign house where people buy their own plane ticket and then live in the team house, yes? Just wish to clarify.
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warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
April 22 2011 23:27 GMT
#24
On April 22 2011 22:27 cArn- wrote:
huhu that's something that I would definetely do


I hope you do! Heck, just to meet SoBad I'd take this, he looks so friendly ^_^
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
April 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#25
1000 a year?
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Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
April 22 2011 23:30 GMT
#26
1000 a year?


Pretty sure he means per month, which is still well below the poverty line but I guess you have to take provided for food and housing into consideration.
stolensheep
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom306 Posts
April 22 2011 23:33 GMT
#27
This is something I'd definitely apply for if I improved a bit! Sounds really awesome though.
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kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
April 23 2011 00:18 GMT
#28
gl, team leagues are the best. you should try for some kor. pro's who haven't broken through in the gsl since they have few tournaments for sc2 besides gsl apparently. relocation i would imagine would be a lot easier for them.
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
April 23 2011 00:28 GMT
#29
Sounds interesting
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5414 Posts
April 23 2011 00:44 GMT
#30
If everything was guaranteed (living arrangements, salary) then I think it's a no-brainer that a lot of foreigners (and good ones, at that) would jump on the opportunity to go. Hell, I would definitely go... but no way I'm good enough.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 00:48:25
April 23 2011 00:46 GMT
#31
On April 23 2011 08:30 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
1000 a year?


Pretty sure he means per month, which is still well below the poverty line but I guess you have to take provided for food and housing into consideration.


living costs in taiwan are vastly lower than the US. entry pay for engineers in tech companies in taiwan is something like less than 25k, whereas in the US it's 50-60k?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 00:49:03
April 23 2011 00:48 GMT
#32
Watching that artosis video made me miss taiwan. THE FOOD :[

I'd hella want to do it but I'm nowhere near good enough x[
omegan
Profile Joined April 2011
76 Posts
April 23 2011 02:40 GMT
#33
On April 23 2011 08:30 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
1000 a year?


Pretty sure he means per month, which is still well below the poverty line but I guess you have to take provided for food and housing into consideration.


do you even know what poverty line is?
Decimator
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico31 Posts
April 23 2011 02:50 GMT
#34
I concur, the salary is is not bad. Here in Mexico your minimum wage is five dollars a day. Thirty four dollars a day is pretty good considering that you get food, a home, and you are doing what you want!
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 02:53:21
April 23 2011 02:52 GMT
#35
Well, if you base it off of the Taiwanese New Dollar, 1000 USD a month gets you 28925 TWD a month. And, based on the website below(albeit out of date, along with a few others I checked, if someone has a more current cost of living, it would be very helpful) a month's living is about 24000 TWD, with utilities and rent and all that stuff. So if you take into account that housing and food is paid, while you won't get rich(as stated in OP) you'll have plenty of money on the side to treat yourself on off days if you choose to do so, no problem.

Sources:

Money conversion: http://coinmill.com/TWD_USD.html#USD=1000
Living cost in Taiwan: http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com/cost-of-living-in-taiwan/377-sample-monthly-budget-for-taiwan
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
April 23 2011 03:06 GMT
#36
This is like studying abroad -- for gosus.
Really cool =]
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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
April 23 2011 04:43 GMT
#37
This is a great opportunity for anyone who's good enough to go. I really want to go but I'm not good enough atm. Maybe I'll pick SC2 up more seriously and see if I can improve enough by the time of the next draft pick.
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Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
April 23 2011 04:49 GMT
#38
Time to start practicing my ass off. This sounds like and opportunity of a lifetime. Play starcraft to earn a living, and travel to an asian country. Really liked watching you guys' league videos! This is pretty exciting.
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Azz
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia65 Posts
April 23 2011 12:19 GMT
#39
I think the title of this needs to be changed, this should also be a teamliquid front page heading, but only if you guys are serious.
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
April 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#40
TeamLiquid should really be doing more to promote this, as the guy above me says putting it on the front page or something, or in community news.
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
April 23 2011 15:15 GMT
#41
I would do this in a heartbeat, but I'm only a high masters zerg, not a pro by any means .
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 23 2011 15:30 GMT
#42
This is really cool, but I never got to watch TeSL because I don't think it streams, and lack of English commentators make me frown. If foreign players join the league though, I might start looking out for their games, and maybe a few other games of the Taiwanese players too. If you guys get English commentators, I would watch this a shit load because the production value is so high (from the VODS I watched). But that might be hard to do.

Is the event ever streamed by the way, or can we only watch it through VODs?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9997 Posts
April 23 2011 15:34 GMT
#43
sen can i join your taiwanese proteam? plz
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 23 2011 15:37 GMT
#44
but you will get to experience being a hero to many and maybe even the feelings of having screaming teenage girl fans


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gulden
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany205 Posts
April 23 2011 15:39 GMT
#45
sounds awesome!
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
April 23 2011 15:42 GMT
#46
personally i would like to see vods of Tesl beforeTesl considering to let non twainese in. just saying that should be biggest issue imo.
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#47
A well deserved bump to an opportunity of a life time for some of the grand masters out there.

Fixed payed salary, housing and food to play competetitvely on TV in taiwan for about 1 year doesnt come up every day.

Also the geographical location will probably allow you to watch / participate on other events in China and Korea for example.

Anyone able to go but having second thoughts dont forget that time goes really fast so opportunities like this one shouldnt be missed
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
April 23 2011 16:01 GMT
#48
While this is a great opportunity for someone, I think that most sponsered players would turn this down.

Simply because they are already salaried (at least the best foreigners are) to play on a less consistant schedule and around their own desires. Furthermore they dont have to move to a foreign country. Plus when you play on a team like this their is no opportunity to play in the many tournaments around the EU and US scene that supplement your income quite heavily, particularily if its someone who wins often.

This might attract some of the weaker foreigners who dont have a sponsered team, but I cant see the stars accepting this offer unless they are from or already live in taiwan (i.e sen).

I really wish it the best of luck though, I just think right now the stars would be giving up to much to consider it.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 24 2011 06:26 GMT
#49
On April 24 2011 01:01 Darpa wrote:
While this is a great opportunity for someone, I think that most sponsered players would turn this down.

Simply because they are already salaried (at least the best foreigners are) to play on a less consistant schedule and around their own desires. Furthermore they dont have to move to a foreign country. Plus when you play on a team like this their is no opportunity to play in the many tournaments around the EU and US scene that supplement your income quite heavily, particularily if its someone who wins often.

This might attract some of the weaker foreigners who dont have a sponsered team, but I cant see the stars accepting this offer unless they are from or already live in taiwan (i.e sen).

I really wish it the best of luck though, I just think right now the stars would be giving up to much to consider it.


This is a big problem I foresee. TeSL might want to start asking the players themselves if they would be interested too.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
April 24 2011 06:33 GMT
#50
If TeSL accommodated foreigners to the extent of letting them participate in GSL in addition to TeSL, I could see top foreigner players going over to Taiwan to participate. Otherwise, I think it (whether top foreign players go) depends on how "locked in" foreigner players who participate in TeSL are.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
April 24 2011 06:34 GMT
#51
This is really awesome, but I think you really need English commentators if you are interested in broadcasting internationally (no idea what your plans are regarding this)
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
April 24 2011 06:36 GMT
#52
Wow, sounds like this would be perfect for me! I will apply when the time comes if possible.
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kevinmon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
April 24 2011 06:41 GMT
#53
This sounds awesome!
Azz
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia65 Posts
April 24 2011 06:58 GMT
#54
this looks pretty good
rbkl
Profile Joined March 2010
772 Posts
April 24 2011 09:25 GMT
#55
Could we get a clarification on whether or not it's $1000 per month or per year?

This would be an amazing opportunity.. I wonder what the qualifications will be for the foreign players.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 24 2011 09:46 GMT
#56
I'm going to apply and hope for the best. Can't wait for more information :D
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
April 24 2011 10:04 GMT
#57
Looks like a few quite strong players have express their interest, should be interesting ;]
:)
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 24 2011 11:25 GMT
#58
On April 24 2011 15:26 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:01 Darpa wrote:
While this is a great opportunity for someone, I think that most sponsered players would turn this down.

Simply because they are already salaried (at least the best foreigners are) to play on a less consistant schedule and around their own desires. Furthermore they dont have to move to a foreign country. Plus when you play on a team like this their is no opportunity to play in the many tournaments around the EU and US scene that supplement your income quite heavily, particularily if its someone who wins often.

This might attract some of the weaker foreigners who dont have a sponsered team, but I cant see the stars accepting this offer unless they are from or already live in taiwan (i.e sen).

I really wish it the best of luck though, I just think right now the stars would be giving up to much to consider it.


This is a big problem I foresee. TeSL might want to start asking the players themselves if they would be interested too.


However, given the current shitty situation in Korea (a few teams that don't even have sponsors/salaries like IM), wouldn't it actually behoove quite a few GSL or Korean Top 200 players to sign up? Honestly, this sounds like a better monetary situation than anything other than GSL Code S, which is rather difficult to stay in, and has an extremely top heavy prize structure.

I'm actually surprised more Koreans aren't going the route of idrA/SeleCt.
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
April 24 2011 13:44 GMT
#59
i'm always interrested in watching starcraft games, i love when it's casted as well !

Personnaly, i'm addicted to TSL3 at the moment, they have great casters, the intro and so on seems really professional, i really enjoy watching it in the evening (CET here)

If TeSL makes a nice stream, and gets casters, i would definitly watch it when TSL3 isn't live. It's really up to you guys
http://www.youtube.com/PiouStarcraft - http://www.facebook.com/pioustarcraft
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 24 2011 13:57 GMT
#60
would this require one to leave their other organisation?
Progamer
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
April 24 2011 14:44 GMT
#61
This is really interesting and hopefully some high level players are interested.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
April 24 2011 14:48 GMT
#62
我觉得这个注意非常好。如果你们真的开放的话,一定有更多人收看。sobad就能把外国妹了:X
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Wihl
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden472 Posts
April 24 2011 15:10 GMT
#63
This sounds like fun. Hope to see some good games in the future with players from around the world participating.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 24 2011 15:26 GMT
#64
On April 24 2011 22:57 Naniwa wrote:
would this require one to leave their other organisation?


oh shit, naniwa is considering joining!
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 24 2011 16:16 GMT
#65
On April 25 2011 00:26 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 22:57 Naniwa wrote:
would this require one to leave their other organisation?


oh shit, naniwa is considering joining!


sounds alot more fun than going through code B -> A -> S before you get to play there. -.-
Progamer
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 25 2011 11:55 GMT
#66
too bad thread dont get checked ;(
Progamer
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
April 25 2011 12:03 GMT
#67
One question that I still wonder about is: How good are the top Taiwanese players in this league? Is there a large skill gap between Sen -> Softball? Sen being one of the best in the world, Softball described as the best player in the league.

I am borderline top 200 on the NA server. How long would the stay in Taiwan be required for? Would I have be considered around the same skill or far far below? This is something I am very interested in as I have Taiwanese GF, where living there wouldn't be that bad for me, and I've been there for multiple weeks before. Thx
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 25 2011 12:11 GMT
#68
On April 25 2011 21:03 Nizzy wrote:
One question that I still wonder about is: How good are the top Taiwanese players in this league? Is there a large skill gap between Sen -> Softball? Sen being one of the best in the world, Softball described as the best player in the league.

I am borderline top 200 on the NA server. How long would the stay in Taiwan be required for? Would I have be considered around the same skill or far far below? This is something I am very interested in as I have Taiwanese GF, where living there wouldn't be that bad for me, and I've been there for multiple weeks before. Thx


might be a shot in the dark, but i asume they want good players ? ;o
Progamer
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 12:13:22
April 25 2011 12:12 GMT
#69
On April 25 2011 21:03 Nizzy wrote:
One question that I still wonder about is: How good are the top Taiwanese players in this league? Is there a large skill gap between Sen -> Softball? Sen being one of the best in the world, Softball described as the best player in the league.


Softball was one round short of qualifying for GSL season 3, he's very good.
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
April 25 2011 12:15 GMT
#70
I think there are enough people who'd like to join, but I don't think it'll get that many viewers because the scene is a bit saturated with matches nowadays (I don't even liquibet anymore because there are just too many matches)
Seala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden118 Posts
April 25 2011 12:39 GMT
#71
More info on this would be much appreciated, when will it be decided if you are going to take in foreigners for the next season? How will people apply? Are there any requirements other then the ones mentioned (basic english, ability to travel to Taiwan).
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 25 2011 13:11 GMT
#72
Is there a prize pool structure or is it purely salary based (because it may be difficult to draw foreigners otherwise). Also, I think it would probably be best to get the league more established, as well as start sending out some of the players that rise out of the crop to compete in more international tournaments so people can see the overall strength of the players (I know Softball has competed in a little bit).
the farm ends here
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
April 25 2011 14:53 GMT
#73
On April 25 2011 21:12 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 21:03 Nizzy wrote:
One question that I still wonder about is: How good are the top Taiwanese players in this league? Is there a large skill gap between Sen -> Softball? Sen being one of the best in the world, Softball described as the best player in the league.


Softball was one round short of qualifying for GSL season 3, he's very good.


Wow yeah that's certainly impressive. Then there's definitley some very very strong players in this league.
Wawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States215 Posts
April 26 2011 00:05 GMT
#74
Sounds like people are asking for english casters as well.
Even though I'm not one of the best, I want to submit my application to be part of this epic tourney.

I think kellymilkies is already doing some castings for them. So I guess shell be one if ever it gets to this point.
www.youtube.com/wawastarcraft
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
April 26 2011 00:15 GMT
#75
This sounds pretty awesome If I wasn't so bad at this game I would totally apply! Would be so fun to go to Taiwan and play in a teamleague
Wahaha
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 26 2011 00:18 GMT
#76
For those that never saw any TeSL matches, here's a write-up of a recent match. I heard that kellymilkies did some english commentary on some of the games, but can't seen to find any right now. From what I can tell, There's a huge drop off in skill-level between Sen and softball, and even more for rest of the league.

My personal opinion is TeSL players' skill level is less than the tip-top US, EU, and KR players, and expect any Code-A level, MLG top-sixteen, or IEM/Dreamhack placed players to be immediately competitive in the league. Unfortunately, I have read that Sen's contract with Fnatics preclude him from participating with the league, so that may be the only barrier for any potentially interested Foreigner.
Thank God and gunrun.
SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
April 26 2011 05:56 GMT
#77
On April 24 2011 22:57 Naniwa wrote:
would this require one to leave their other organisation?


That would be up to the previous organization. Conflicts may arise, such as orginal organization is sponsored by keyboard/mouse company A, but the TeSL team they are drafted by is sponsored by keyboard mouse company B. So it would depend on if the original organization can except that or not.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 06:40:40
April 26 2011 06:40 GMT
#78
On April 26 2011 14:56 SoBaDRush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 22:57 Naniwa wrote:
would this require one to leave their other organisation?


That would be up to the previous organization. Conflicts may arise, such as orginal organization is sponsored by keyboard/mouse company A, but the TeSL team they are drafted by is sponsored by keyboard mouse company B. So it would depend on if the original organization can except that or not.

wasn't that the problem why Sen has to wait until his contract ends in Fnatic before joining one of the Taiwanese team?
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 26 2011 06:47 GMT
#79
Man, I would LOVE to do this in two years :/

I hate being in high school.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 26 2011 06:56 GMT
#80
this is great idea but if you really want international exposure you gotta make a website that caters to the English speaking countries (like Gom.tv) with games casted in Chinese as well as in English. my 2 cents.

showcase the TeSL for the world to see and you will have foreigners knocking on your doors.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 26 2011 06:58 GMT
#81
On April 25 2011 23:53 Nizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 21:12 Asha` wrote:
On April 25 2011 21:03 Nizzy wrote:
One question that I still wonder about is: How good are the top Taiwanese players in this league? Is there a large skill gap between Sen -> Softball? Sen being one of the best in the world, Softball described as the best player in the league.


Softball was one round short of qualifying for GSL season 3, he's very good.


Wow yeah that's certainly impressive. Then there's definitley some very very strong players in this league.


you should still try!
Seala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 06:15:47
April 28 2011 12:19 GMT
#82
This deserves a bump, any more info on this league would be much appreciated!
-miDnight-
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan455 Posts
May 03 2011 18:58 GMT
#83
Great news, why didn't I saw this information on PTT?

Hope some of my favoirite player will apply
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snatcch
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States133 Posts
May 03 2011 19:09 GMT
#84
this would be so amazing, TeSL is so awesome
http://www.twitter.com/ericfbrinkley
Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
May 03 2011 19:10 GMT
#85
Have you contacted any koreans? I mean Taiwan is pretty close to Korea, and you know the skill level of Koreans. Koreans seem to be better choice than NA and EU players for TeSL.
MarCoon
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany493 Posts
May 03 2011 19:27 GMT
#86
this is a pretty awesome opportunity if you got the skill to do it :o
~follow me on twitter.com/GGmarCoon
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
May 04 2011 03:34 GMT
#87
HRU Fighting ~
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Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
May 04 2011 03:39 GMT
#88
to all those saying 1,000 a month is crap, well it sort of is here. But in taiwan (where you can get delicious meal for $2) it's pretty decent. Not going to make you rich but you can live off it.
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Sen
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Taiwan108 Posts
May 04 2011 10:59 GMT
#89
On April 24 2011 00:34 TT1 wrote:
sen can i join your taiwanese proteam? plz

Rofl No you cant your skills is too low
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
May 04 2011 11:13 GMT
#90
On May 04 2011 19:59 Sen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:34 TT1 wrote:
sen can i join your taiwanese proteam? plz

Rofl No you cant your skills is too low


LOL rejected~~
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
May 04 2011 11:52 GMT
#91
so how do we sign up?
wayne1987
Profile Joined February 2011
Taiwan11 Posts
May 04 2011 17:09 GMT
#92
this thread should be put on the top since many player are interested with this

TESL fight!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
May 04 2011 17:18 GMT
#93
On May 04 2011 19:59 Sen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:34 TT1 wrote:
sen can i join your taiwanese proteam? plz

Rofl No you cant your skills is too low


hahaha, now that is team spirit <3
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
yellu
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria33 Posts
May 04 2011 17:47 GMT
#94
I was just watching WhiteRa's stream, he was speaking in Russian, but one of the chat members translated that the Ra signed a contract and will be playing in the TeSL. Not sure though if it is true.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9997 Posts
May 04 2011 18:17 GMT
#95
On May 04 2011 19:59 Sen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:34 TT1 wrote:
sen can i join your taiwanese proteam? plz

Rofl No you cant your skills is too low


tt1/1 A- motw(no desti) go?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 04 2011 18:25 GMT
#96
You 2 need to get a room.
BanelingMalt
Profile Joined November 2010
Taiwan42 Posts
May 04 2011 20:38 GMT
#97
On May 04 2011 20:52 emc wrote:
so how do we sign up?


Sign up process, or even if this will happen for sure next season is still being decided. They just wanted to gauge the interest of the community and will keep us posted.
Banelings drink your milkshake
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 21:24:00
May 04 2011 21:10 GMT
#98
How strong are the players in this league? Compared to Sen, for example. I think it'd be an awesome experience to go for half a year, especially since I'm Taiwanese and have family that lives in Taiwan (only speak English though =[, although apparently that's ok).

I'd probably only be a practice partner though T_T.

And $1,000 a month is more than I'm making now, lol, which is about $850-900. How sad.
Prissy
Profile Joined May 2010
United States113 Posts
May 04 2011 21:27 GMT
#99
Nice.. I will be flying to Taipei from NY this August... so I'll prob go check out the studio
Channel NYC
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 04 2011 22:17 GMT
#100
On April 25 2011 01:16 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 00:26 Whole wrote:
On April 24 2011 22:57 Naniwa wrote:
would this require one to leave their other organisation?


oh shit, naniwa is considering joining!


sounds alot more fun than going through code B -> A -> S before you get to play there. -.-


Isn't Code B just top of ladder? But yea Code A Qualifiers must be a bitch.
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
May 04 2011 22:37 GMT
#101
What about prizemoney? You get a low salary (good enough in taiwan?) and housing/food etc.. but there ought to be some prizemoney in that league although you can't count on it 100% it could make a move for some pros to Taiwan more attractive.
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 04 2011 23:23 GMT
#102
On May 05 2011 06:10 FabledIntegral wrote:
How strong are the players in this league? Compared to Sen, for example. I think it'd be an awesome experience to go for half a year, especially since I'm Taiwanese and have family that lives in Taiwan (only speak English though =[, although apparently that's ok).

I'd probably only be a practice partner though T_T.

And $1,000 a month is more than I'm making now, lol, which is about $850-900. How sad.

Based on what I've seen in the TeSL vods, most of the players are code B - low code A level, although there are some star players like softball who are easily top code A or code S level.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
May 04 2011 23:30 GMT
#103
On May 05 2011 08:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 06:10 FabledIntegral wrote:
How strong are the players in this league? Compared to Sen, for example. I think it'd be an awesome experience to go for half a year, especially since I'm Taiwanese and have family that lives in Taiwan (only speak English though =[, although apparently that's ok).

I'd probably only be a practice partner though T_T.

And $1,000 a month is more than I'm making now, lol, which is about $850-900. How sad.

Based on what I've seen in the TeSL vods, most of the players are code B - low code A level, although there are some star players like softball who are easily top code A or code S level.


No idea what Code B level is but still probably above me *sigh*.
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
May 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#104
So we know there are salaries? but what about the winning team do they get any type of compensation? or are the players just payed and they must play through the competition and the winning team just gets the pride of being the winning team?

I havent heard of any compensation for the team that wins (or comes in second) so i assume there is no compensation for winning, to me at least this takes out alot of the thrill of the tournament if nothing is on the line....
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 04 2011 23:50 GMT
#105
On May 05 2011 08:30 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 08:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
On May 05 2011 06:10 FabledIntegral wrote:
How strong are the players in this league? Compared to Sen, for example. I think it'd be an awesome experience to go for half a year, especially since I'm Taiwanese and have family that lives in Taiwan (only speak English though =[, although apparently that's ok).

I'd probably only be a practice partner though T_T.

And $1,000 a month is more than I'm making now, lol, which is about $850-900. How sad.

Based on what I've seen in the TeSL vods, most of the players are code B - low code A level, although there are some star players like softball who are easily top code A or code S level.


No idea what Code B level is but still probably above me *sigh*.

Code B is Grandmaster's and High Master's in Korea level.
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