• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:20
CEST 03:20
KST 10:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)84ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo39Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Old Replays From 1.4.6 The future of the SC game model
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool ProGamer Paychecks Story Data needed BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10271 users

[TeSL] Inquiring about foreign player's interest

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 03:50:36
April 22 2011 11:21 GMT
#1
Hello fellow StarCraft enthusiasts and players around the world, my name is SoBadRush, I’m am the caster for TV broadcasts of Taiwan’s TeSL. Recently the league has been discussing the possibility of opening up to non-Taiwan players next season (starting in August). While I must emphasize that this is NOT yet a finally decision (both the league and teams want to be careful in how they handle this, and there is still a possibility that it might be postponed to a future season), I wanted to let everyone know that this is indeed a possibility and also gauge the interest of international players and the international community by getting everyone’s feedback. If you are a competitive player please let me know what you think, if you know someone who might be, please share this info with them! Thanks everyone!

If you don't know about the TeSL yet:
Here is a detailed introduction:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203564
Here is Artosis' video introduction:

Sen's NASL application also includes a short TeSL tour:


I put together a simple FAQ so that you can know what being a pro SCII player for the TeSL in Taiwan would entail. Remember, TeSL has NOT yet decided for sure to let Foreign players join this season, so everything below is based on the assumption that things work out for next season.

How many foreign players can join?
Like I said both the league and teams want to be cautious about this process. For the first season it appears that every team will be allowed one foreign player, therefore there would be a total of 5 spots open. The TeSL is a work in progress, and if everything goes well with the first group of 5 players I’m sure there will be more opportunities in the future.

What are the benefits like?
Simply put: You will not get rich (from the base salary anyway), but if you have a good attitude you will have the experience of a lifetime. Base salary for most players is around $US 1,000 per month (with housing and most food being paid for), however exceptional players may be able to negotiate a higher salary with the team. Ask anyone who has been to Taiwan, the people are friendly and the food is delicious. In Taiwan you will be able to experience traditional Asian culture with most of the Western comforts you are used to. You will be expected to practice and go to events with the team (there are autograph signings and other events all over the island where players interact with fans), but you will get to experience being a hero to many and maybe even the feelings of having screaming teenage girl fans

What kind of contract would I have to sign?
Honestly it’s still too early in the process to know for sure how this will work. Normally Taiwanese players sign with the team for 2 years. But I expect (but once again, I’m not sure!) that foreign players would be able to work out more flexible contracts with the team, maybe for a year or half a year, etc.

How will foreign players be selected?
The TeSL is a draft-based league, meaning that all new players must go through a draft selection where each team take turns choosing players (like seen in the NBA, etc.). Therefore foreign players wishing to play in the TeSL must also go through a draft, however it will likely be a separate draft. Also, players will not have to come to Taiwan for the draft (because not all who make themselves elligable will be picked), we will ask interested players to send in their info and RPs so that teams have a chance to evaluate all of the candidates.

What kind of players is TeSL looking for?
Well, aside from the obvious trait of being good at StarCraft II, the most important requirement is a good attitude, the ability to relocate to Taiwan, and being able to work well with others (This is a team league, not an individual league). Players do not need to learn Mandarin, but should be able to speak basic English (most Taiwanese can speak at least very simple English). With the 5 open slots we hope to get a nice balance of quality players from around the world. While we welcome players of all three of the StarCraft II races, we have a surplus of Protoss in the league right now, and lack of Zerg (Only 2 out of the current 19 players are Zerg). So even though teams will be looking for the best player available they might be more prone to take Zerg (or Terran) players of equal level over Protoss.

Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
April 22 2011 11:26 GMT
#2
this is something that sounds good and if i was better at sc2 id work my ass off just to do this for 6-12 months.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 22 2011 11:34 GMT
#3
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?

Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
April 22 2011 11:37 GMT
#4
On April 22 2011 20:34 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?
Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v


No. Good question, I should add that in there. English will do. Although shy, most players/coaches can use simple English to communicate, and we all speak the common language of StarCraft so it should be fine.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
April 22 2011 11:45 GMT
#5
the moment you said that players get paid monthly as salary, ohhhh you're gonna get hell of alot of applications! TeSL fighting!
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
April 22 2011 11:49 GMT
#6
Will foreign fans be able to watch the league anywhere? maybe some description of how the league runs would be better instead of just saying "This is a team league, not an individual league"

I'm really interested to know! =)
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
April 22 2011 11:57 GMT
#7
On April 22 2011 20:37 SoBaDRush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2011 20:34 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, would these foreign players need to learn mandarin/taiwanese, or...what?
Also I'd be willing to join in the future seasons once I brush up my skills :D...eventually v.v


No. Good question, I should add that in there. English will do. Although shy, most players/coaches can use simple English to communicate, and we all speak the common language of StarCraft so it should be fine.

nice that you say about the common language of StarCraft

that's nice and good, same as korea (the players trying to actively learn english there too, such as MC), which is nice, and makes esports between the continents feel more...connected.

Also I should start relearning mandarin too...(since I kinda got out of the chinese school programs at like 3rd grade = =... (my grandparents were from China, my parents were born in Taiwan, and I was born in the states...so I guess the TeSL'll be a good reason for me to start relearning my chinese :D) hmm

well, good luck to the teams in taiwan at getting foreign players, and hope that the skill levels of all the countries would grow to rival one another

(= =; sorry for weird cheesy talk/random errors in my text.... 5am! I should sleep..)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 22 2011 12:00 GMT
#8
This is a really good chance, would definitely go for it if I wanted to gather great experience!
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
SoBaDRush
Profile Joined March 2011
Taiwan6 Posts
April 22 2011 12:19 GMT
#9
On April 22 2011 20:49 johanngrunt wrote:
Will foreign fans be able to watch the league anywhere? maybe some description of how the league runs would be better instead of just saying "This is a team league, not an individual league"
I'm really interested to know! =)


There is information here as mentioned abovie:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203564

Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 22 2011 12:42 GMT
#10
Very impressive.

eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 22 2011 12:51 GMT
#11
It would be nice if TeSL starts to interact with the foreign community a bit more. Adding foreigners to the league is a great idea to make the TeSL more attractive to the foreign competitive scene, though I think there needs to be a better connection with foreign fans if the possible foreigner addition is to be successful.

It would be nice if the league was better publicized on TL. Perhaps some good ideas would be opening up a livestream and/or having threads tracking the league and VoDs.

It's great to see Taiwan have such a great e-sports league, and I really think that allowing foreigner competition and increasing publicity for foreigners would really allow more people to enjoy the league's great production values.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 22 2011 13:03 GMT
#12
Sounds pretty good, I could imagine some of the top weaker players doing this to make a name for themselves and improve and then maybe break into the GSL or become a tip top player?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
April 22 2011 13:04 GMT
#13
Oh my god, this would be the coolest thing ever. Foreigners in TeSL. More teams. More everything.

Would love to see this!
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Dubsys
Profile Joined July 2007
Australia122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 13:09:48
April 22 2011 13:09 GMT
#14
this is one of those "once in a lifetime" experiences that would be really cool to go and try out, being in what is an amazing Asian country while being paid to play a game you love seems pretty cool.

by the way, SoBadRush you're very good looking
Patience is bitter, but it bears sweet fruit.
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 22 2011 13:23 GMT
#15
Well, when the qualifiers/drafts start i'll be there for sure ^_^
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
April 22 2011 13:27 GMT
#16
huhu that's something that I would definetely do
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
Chinchillin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States259 Posts
April 22 2011 13:36 GMT
#17
^ seen that man stomp out some damn good competition.
Leenocktopus! InNoVation!
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
April 22 2011 13:59 GMT
#18
Yea this is definitely one of those really cool opportunities, thanks for posting SoBaD! Essentially free rent/food, living and breathing Starcraft, being in Taiwan, pretty awesome :D
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 22 2011 14:03 GMT
#19
E-sports are going crazy atm. I wish you guys the best of luck regardless of whether you decide to involve foreign players or not.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
April 22 2011 21:22 GMT
#20
I can't believe this thread got buried! From the description, this seems like a better deal than GSL at the moment: a decent salary, training house, a chance to be on TV, living for a year in a place with some of the night-market food in the world! If I am any good with the game, I'd sign up in an instance!
Thank God and gunrun.
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:50
Maestros Playoffs Replay Cast
Maru vs Serral
herO vs Classic
PiGStarcraft611
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft611
ProTech136
oGsTOP 61
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3101
Rain 2814
Artosis 509
BeSt 314
Bale 13
Purpose 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm140
Counter-Strike
taco 133
minikerr39
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox346
AZ_Axe162
Mew2King67
Other Games
summit1g15136
shahzam847
JimRising 427
RotterdaM282
Maynarde95
UpATreeSC42
JuggernautJason28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1228
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream300
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH236
• Hupsaiya 113
• davetesta16
• mYiSmile116
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt243
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 40m
RSL Revival
15h 40m
Bombastic Starleague
18h 40m
PiGosaur Cup
22h 40m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Bombastic Starleague
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.