• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:01
CET 00:01
KST 08:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage8Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?1Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Liquibets sc2 season 30 Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement!
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11647 users

If BW Units fought SC2 Units.... - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 18 19 20 Next All
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
April 14 2011 00:55 GMT
#41
dragoon micro > sc2
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 14 2011 00:55 GMT
#42
On April 14 2011 09:51 beefhamburger wrote:
As much as I would like SC1 to win, I don't see what would beat Broodlords with mass Viking and PDD support other than pure spells. Broodlords are beefy enough to tank plenty of storms and the broodlings will minimize swarm effects by stoping any ground units from getting close. Goliaths would be good if PDD didn't work on them.

I am pretty sure broodlords aren't any better than gardian. I think just simple ranged marines or muta/devourer would kill that pretty bad.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
April 14 2011 00:55 GMT
#43
This is kinda like swords, bows and arrows vs newage super weapons. It's obviously so much cooler and takes more skill to kill someone with a sword, but you won't kill a soldier with fully automatic machine gun.
화이팅
AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
April 14 2011 00:57 GMT
#44
It depends...because I can only select 12 at a time...
Whats worse...US Poltics or SC2 Balance Talks...
swim224
Profile Joined May 2010
Botswana368 Posts
April 14 2011 00:58 GMT
#45
On April 14 2011 09:51 beefhamburger wrote:
As much as I would like SC1 to win, I don't see what would beat Broodlords with mass Viking and PDD support other than pure spells. Broodlords are beefy enough to tank plenty of storms and the broodlings will minimize swarm effects by stoping any ground units from getting close. Goliaths would be good if PDD didn't work on them.


Stasis would own them because in sc2 units clump up so much. You could also plague them or use the corsair's splash.
....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
April 14 2011 00:58 GMT
#46
Considering the fact that we generally expect a forward progression with time I'd have to say that in theory BW units lose because SC2 units are supposed to be an "improvement" on their predecessors.
If you want to compare buildtimes and stats directly it's a different matter altogether though I suspect units from BW moved into SC2 would have scaled down stats, or SC2 units moved into BW would have scaled up stats (ex. 40 BW HP is not worth as much as 40 SC2 HP)
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
April 14 2011 01:01 GMT
#47
What map, I'm not optimistic for a good game if it's on wuthuring heights. lol.

But seriously, though, I don't know how you could argue that SC2 units would win in a fight. Sure, if you let the mechanics of both games into this fight, SC2 would win because you'd have a maxed army in 7 minutes, but the units themselves were more powerful in Brood War. I liked a discription I read (from LuLush I think) that stated that in Brood War there were 3 overpowered races fighting eachother, and in Starcraft II, they're trying to approach "balance". The approach now is to nerf everything that's powerful because the millions of casual players around the world don't care if a year or two down the road something could be figured out, they just want to be able to win all the time with every race with minimal effort, which is sad, but it's what we have
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
April 14 2011 01:01 GMT
#48
It depends in what game would you made a clash...
If it was in BW, BW units would win hands down. Imagine Colossus or Thor in BW. lol.
[image loading]
But if it was in SC2, I think SC2 units would have made a stand.
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
April 14 2011 01:03 GMT
#49
talk about no comparison... >_<

1) DARKSWARM: marine/marauder ball, protoss deathball LOLWUT
2) PSIONIC STORM: marine/marauder ball, protoss deathball LOLWUT
3) CHEAPASS VULTURES: so OP it's not even funny
4) PLAGUE: marine/marauder ball, protoss deathbal LOLWUT
5) CRACKLINGS: these would own sc2 cannons any day.
6) OP TANKS: 85 damage with +3 attack upgrade. yes...EIGHTY FIVE
7) MEDICS: tier 1, way cheaper than medivacs, way sexier
8) SCOURAGE
9) ARBITERS: need I say more. They're like much cheaper motherships now esp. since mothership vortex got nerfed to uselessness the last patch.


This is actually a good thread in showing why BW is more interesting to watch imo; each race has hella overpowered units but they counteract each other which gives us very interesting games (i think it was coincidence that BW turned out this way but either way, it turned out well)

On the OTHER hand....we see Blizzard nerfing units in SC2 to OBLIVION. DON'T NERF Blizzard! Instead, if it's imbalanced, balance it by buffing.
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
April 14 2011 01:03 GMT
#50
Oooh, we've gotten to three pages and still no mention of:

PLAAAAAGUUUUUUUU!!!

Anyway, I'm going to vote for the Starcraft 2 units because they have much better AI. You don't have to babysit them as much, which means more brain power allocated for uber micro. In Brood War, you had to dedicate much of your micro towards mitigating the idiotic AI, so if both players are at the same skill level, the Starcraft 2 units would win.

Another question. Who would win? Firebathero or Idra?
"The drums! The drums! The drums! The neverending drumbeat! Open me, you human fool! Open the light and summon me and receive my majesty!"
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 14 2011 01:04 GMT
#51
--- Nuked ---
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
April 14 2011 01:05 GMT
#52
Defliers. Holy shit, everything would die.
im deaf
babblingduk
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada79 Posts
April 14 2011 01:05 GMT
#53
Awesome thread lol
Like others have said, it would depend.

I would argue that unit for unit, BW would win.

But if it was nada playing himself (one in BW one in SCII)
then i think SC2 would win just cause of the intelligence of the AI.

IMO good AI > high DPS

cant do the damage if you cant control the units =p
pathy
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Taiwan619 Posts
April 14 2011 01:06 GMT
#54
lmao everytime I play the BWSC2 custom I just reaver my way to victory :D
bw ez
Graphicscolosi suck
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
April 14 2011 01:06 GMT
#55
BW Carriers>everything SC2 has to offer.
/commercial
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
April 14 2011 01:07 GMT
#56
And people have the gall to talk about OP units in SC2!

:p
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 01:11:12
April 14 2011 01:08 GMT
#57
I think SC2 Protoss would beat SC1 Protoss. This is assuming a world where SC2 units behave like SC2 units, and SC1 units behave like SC1 units.

Zealot charge is superior to Zealot leg speed.
Stalkers move faster than Dragoons and can Blink at the cost of a little less health.
SC1 High Templar can't deal with the long range Feedback of SC2 High Templar, although Dark Archons in the equation will quickly turn this around.
SC2 Dark Templar do more damage than SC1 Dark Templar.
The Sentry, which has no real SC1 equivalent, brutally shifts things in favor of SC2 Protoss, as Force Fields take advantage of both stupid Dragoon AI and stupid scarab AI. Imagine if every scarab shot you fired had to make its way around a mineral line?

The Shuttle beats the Warp Prism in survivability, but lacks the ability to drop more than 4 units at a time.
Immortals are better overall against the SC1 Protoss army than the Reaver is against the much more mobile SC2 Protoss army, and absolutely destroy the Reaver 1v1.
Colossus can take advantage of weak SC1 Protoss anti-air, although lose straight up to Dark Archons due to Mind Control.
Observers... are observers. There's no increased sight range in SC2, so I guess SC1 Observers win?

The Scout loses handily to the Void Ray in all forms of combat.
The Phoenix and Corsair both provide similar roles in the game, but Disruption Web over an army that can Blink is much less useful than lifting up Reavers and High Templars is.
SC2 Carriers do more DPS than SC1 Carriers do, and they fire their Interceptors out much more quickly.
The Arbiter kicks the crap out of the Mothership hands down, but I believe that Force Field overall is more potent than Stasis in this example.
Writer
babblingduk
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada79 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 01:09:34
April 14 2011 01:09 GMT
#58
oXoCube
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada197 Posts
April 14 2011 01:09 GMT
#59
SC2 Terran would be basically screwed against all 3 BW races imo
SC2 Zerg could probably beat BW zerg in context of the current metagame
SC2 Protoss could beat BW terran IMO, especially if chargelots can drag mines, it would be a lot harder once vessels came out though

In terms of pick any unit combinations you want, BW would roll sc2 and its not even close.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
April 14 2011 01:10 GMT
#60
On April 14 2011 09:40 skypig wrote:
BW units would win, hands down - anyone claiming that SC2 units would win has not played BW enough.

Cracklings from BW have DPS that would shred any SC2 unit army, except something like mass tanks/colossi. On the same note, the SC2 zergling is pathetic compared to the BW original.

Defilers from BW can cast plague; this spell deals 300 damage to all units in a big AoE cloud.

Siege tanks from BW deal 70 damage (un-upgraded) per shot to large units; this is way more than SC2 tanks.

High templar from BW have psionic storms that can deal 110 total damage (instead of 80 like in SC2), plus they can cast 3 times instead of 2 at full energy.

Carriers from BW have 4 armor, and battlecruisers from BW have 3 armor - these would own SC2 units.


BW units win, no contest.


Couldn't have said it better.
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 18 19 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
Masters Cup #151: Playoffs
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 402
PiGStarcraft302
Nathanias 84
CosmosSc2 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 5799
ProTech95
Artosis 67
League of Legends
Doublelift4334
Counter-Strike
Fnx 595
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox307
PPMD41
Other Games
summit1g6668
Grubby2448
shahzam545
ToD261
Liquid`Hasu213
syndereN175
C9.Mang0166
NeuroSwarm84
Railgan26
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV145
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 43
• musti20045 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 64
• Pr0nogo 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV444
League of Legends
• TFBlade292
Other Games
• imaqtpie920
• Shiphtur323
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 59m
INu's Battles
12h 59m
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
17h 29m
The PondCast
1d 10h
KCM Race Survival
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 12h
OSC
1d 23h
Ultimate Battle
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
IPSL
3 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
4 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.