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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 14 2011 00:43 GMT
#21
Isn't there a mod to test this?
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
April 14 2011 00:43 GMT
#22
Starcraft 1 units would dominate Starcraft 2 units.

If you played the SC1/SC2 Conversion mod, units like medics, dragoons, vultures utterly dominate everything.

However, Starcraft 2 macro mechanics > Starcraft 1 macro mechanics.

Sure Starcraft 1 units are stronger, but starcraft 2 will have more units in the same amount of time.
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
April 14 2011 00:44 GMT
#23
Brood War.
I have a beard. I'm unprofessional.
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
April 14 2011 00:44 GMT
#24
On April 14 2011 09:42 skypig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 09:40 prodiG wrote:
plague only did 300? i thought it reduced health to 1 no matter what O____________O


"Only" 300, lol? That's more than most ground units have - the only units that are left with ANY health at all are carriers, battlecruisers, and ultralisks.

It's like a ridiculously powerful version of FG, except you have to wait 'til tier 3.

i meant like i didn't know there was actually a limit on it because i'm so used to just seeing everything be at 1 health
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 00:46:24
April 14 2011 00:44 GMT
#25
On April 14 2011 09:40 skypig wrote:
BW units would win, hands down - anyone claiming that SC2 units would win has not played BW enough.

Cracklings from BW have DPS that would shred any SC2 unit army, except something like mass tanks/colossi. On the same note, the SC2 zergling is pathetic compared to the BW original.

Defilers from BW can cast plague; this spell deals 300 damage to all units in a big AoE cloud.

Siege tanks from BW deal 70 damage (un-upgraded) per shot to large units; this is way more than SC2 tanks.

High templar from BW have psionic storms that can deal 110 total damage (instead of 80 like in SC2), plus they can cast 3 times instead of 2 at full energy.

Carriers from BW have 4 armor, and battlecruisers from BW have 3 armor - these would own SC2 units.


BW units win, no contest.

It's not quite that clear cut - SC2 tanks shoot more quickly than BW tanks, I think they actually have higher dps in the end, especially considering they do the same damage to "light" (35). SC2 Battlecruisers have 3 base armour too.

I think BW units would win though, 'cause the SC2 units would all clump up like they do and get murdered by the BW splash.
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
April 14 2011 00:45 GMT
#26
Defilers from BW can cast plague; this spell deals 300 damage to all units in a big AoE cloud.


Im pretty sure the main reason defilers were scary was darkswarm+consume.
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
April 14 2011 00:47 GMT
#27
BW would win because you could actually micro the units unlike SC2.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
April 14 2011 00:48 GMT
#28
5 BW High Templars could easily kill 200 supply of SC2 barracks units. Storm was sooooooo good and SC2 units clump up so much it would be hilarious.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 14 2011 00:48 GMT
#29
I'm surprised anyone said SC2... I guess they haven't played BW.

On April 14 2011 09:47 BryanSC wrote:
BW would win because you could actually micro the units unlike SC2.


That makes no sense... they would win because they are harder to control, and therefore harder to use efficiently... what? How about they would win simply because they are more powerful...
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 14 2011 00:50 GMT
#30
Reaver would probably win hands down because scarabs would be far more intelligent and wouldn't be 50% uncontrollable by players.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 00:52:27
April 14 2011 00:50 GMT
#31
Brood war protoss just makes dark archons and mind controls everything you throw at them :p What is yours is mine!!

Edit:Someone saying brood war units will win because of micro..LOL, it is so much tougher to control units in brood war. I t actually goes against them.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 14 2011 00:50 GMT
#32
On April 14 2011 09:44 prodiG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 09:42 skypig wrote:
On April 14 2011 09:40 prodiG wrote:
plague only did 300? i thought it reduced health to 1 no matter what O____________O


"Only" 300, lol? That's more than most ground units have - the only units that are left with ANY health at all are carriers, battlecruisers, and ultralisks.

It's like a ridiculously powerful version of FG, except you have to wait 'til tier 3.

i meant like i didn't know there was actually a limit on it because i'm so used to just seeing everything be at 1 health

Also, defilers with consume basically have unlimited energy so they can basically continue to plague everything.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Aequos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada606 Posts
April 14 2011 00:51 GMT
#33
I think it depends on what composition you were using - I'd take forcefield over almost any BW ground unit due to no BW unit being massive. I suspect it would block scarabs too (anything else did, why not forcefield?). If we're fighting on an open battlefield, with reinforcements, SC2 Protoss would have the obvious advantage due to warpin allowing them to replenish their army. I suspect Corsairs would have problems with Phoenixes were the battle to go to aircraft, and VRs are just so much better than scouts. Microing with Blink could negate the lesser damage of stalkers as compared to Dragoons.

Surprisingly, I think immortals would help a ton, as they're pretty proof against all of Protoss's heavy hitters from BW save the Carrier.
I first realized Immortals were reincarnated Dragoons when I saw them dancing helplessly behind my Stalkers.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 14 2011 00:51 GMT
#34
As much as I would like SC1 to win, I don't see what would beat Broodlords with mass Viking and PDD support other than pure spells. Broodlords are beefy enough to tank plenty of storms and the broodlings will minimize swarm effects by stoping any ground units from getting close. Goliaths would be good if PDD didn't work on them.
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
April 14 2011 00:51 GMT
#35
Battlecruisers are pretty tough in SC2, I think it's the one unit that could break any SC1 unit. It has so much dps and it's so resistant nothing could break it
This road isn't leading anywhere...
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
April 14 2011 00:52 GMT
#36
Cracklings/defilers would rape everything.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
April 14 2011 00:52 GMT
#37
BW mainly due to spider mines, dark swarm, cracklings, and the original psi storm which would destroy the hell out of the sc2 army blobs.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 14 2011 00:52 GMT
#38
--- Nuked ---
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
April 14 2011 00:53 GMT
#39
Oh man I love unabashed brood war elitism threads.
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 00:56:18
April 14 2011 00:54 GMT
#40
On April 14 2011 09:47 BryanSC wrote:
BW would win because you could actually micro the units unlike SC2.

So BW because you had to have skill ontop of skill. Skill in the game and skill to make up for the short falls and pathing issues that were in the game? That makes no sense.

That comparison bluntly is retarded, if you compared any game in it's current state to it's previous or older one you would always choose the older one cause it's harder.

At this point, it's like asking what is a better fruit, wine or potatoes.

edit, let me spell it out for the people saying "HERP DERP BW WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER" and the other kids saying "NUUU SC2 IS BETTER YOU OLD GEEZER"

Everyone loves potatoes, you can say it two different ways. Find me someone who hates potatoes and i'll find you a liar.

Wine gets better with age. Guess which one is the wine and which one the potatoes.
:P
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