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Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
April 13 2011 16:14 GMT
#441
On April 13 2011 21:51 DreamScaR wrote:
Also DaBoO is the first person to be on the same list twice on two different accounts (not counting smurfs)


How do you distinguish a "smurf" from someone who's just "on two different accounts?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
April 13 2011 16:16 GMT
#442
On April 12 2011 09:02 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 09:01 Shadowed wrote:
Off the top of my head, it's ~2 bonus points an hour? So it works out to roughly 270 in a week.


1 per 112 minutes, 90 a week.

Weird, you get 112 gas a minute on 1 geyser... Coincidence?
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
April 13 2011 16:17 GMT
#443
On April 13 2011 22:15 ch33psh33p wrote:
The MMR from 100-400 is extremely packed, it was definetly more of a first come first serve basis, versus a, just having the high enouhg MMR.


That's not how it works -- the people who have the top 200 MMR moving averages have a spot *reserved* until they either win a little bit and get promoted or until someone surpasses their MMR moving average.

This is why NA still has 11 unfilled spots despite people killing themselves to get in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
April 13 2011 16:17 GMT
#444
seems like atleast in my division all the people i was sure would get top200 are already promoted. bit surprised some that remain but well..



but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


i just dont understand what the hell the blizzard ladderguys are thinking. are they just trying to make the ladder as confusing and uncompetive as possible or are they just bad?


life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Avril_Lavigne
Profile Joined April 2010
United States446 Posts
April 13 2011 16:20 GMT
#445
So technically you get to grand master league in a single season, and tank your record and still be in grand masters for the rest of the season? That's kinda gay
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 13 2011 16:21 GMT
#446
On April 14 2011 01:14 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 21:51 DreamScaR wrote:
Also DaBoO is the first person to be on the same list twice on two different accounts (not counting smurfs)


How do you distinguish a "smurf" from someone who's just "on two different accounts?"

he means accounts he doesnt know about that belong to teh same person.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
April 13 2011 16:22 GMT
#447
On April 14 2011 01:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
seems like atleast in my division all the people i was sure would get top200 are already promoted. bit surprised some that remain but well..



but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


i just dont understand what the hell the blizzard ladderguys are thinking. are they just trying to make the ladder as confusing and uncompetive as possible or are they just bad?



It's more like there's a clear goal to get to now. It's cooler to be top 200 of the entire NA than 3400 masters (of like 6000 players). I just wished that there were ways to get into GM that didn't involve a GM not playing for two weeks. DERP, log in once every 13 days and go 1-1. or 0-1, as long as they can.
Turn it Up
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:24:32
April 13 2011 16:22 GMT
#448
On April 14 2011 01:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


Using a moving average limits how much turnover there would be anyway, because it takes a long time to budge the moving average.

Anyway, I asked this before, but why is this any different from GSL locking in Code S and Code A for a season? I mean, everyone knows that the Code S list isn't perfect, but I don't see nearly as much complaining about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 13 2011 16:25 GMT
#449
all i hear is mimimi from ppl who wanna be in and didnt get into.

the only thing i dont get is darkforce, he was top 10 in europe for the last few weeks with 70%+ wins, has like 20 to 10 w/l since gml is up and simply does not get promoted, while others like me with much less points / ratio / MMR did.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 13 2011 16:28 GMT
#450
On April 14 2011 01:22 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


Using a moving average limits how much turnover there would be anyway, because it takes a long time to budge the moving average.

Anyway, I asked this before, but why is this any different from GSL locking in Code S and Code A for a season? I mean, everyone knows that the Code S list isn't perfect, but I don't see nearly as much complaining about it.


because if you want to take it seriously you gotta measure time in man-hours.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 13 2011 16:30 GMT
#451
On April 14 2011 01:25 DiaBoLuS wrote:
all i hear is mimimi from ppl who wanna be in and didnt get into.

the only thing i dont get is darkforce, he was top 10 in europe for the last few weeks with 70%+ wins, has like 20 to 10 w/l since gml is up and simply does not get promoted, while others like me with much less points / ratio / MMR did.

People want to be motivated to improve. They dont want to wait 8 months for a chance to be rewarded(and then be anxious about the fact that you can get darkforced)
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:34:32
April 13 2011 16:34 GMT
#452
On April 14 2011 01:28 Sfydjklm wrote:
because if you want to take it seriously you gotta measure time in man-hours.


Pretty sure that the moving average is over "games," not "time," so I think that's what they're already doing. My comment should have read "lot of games" not "long time."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Avalain
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada308 Posts
April 13 2011 16:44 GMT
#453
On April 14 2011 01:30 Sfydjklm wrote:
People want to be motivated to improve. They dont want to wait 8 months for a chance to be rewarded(and then be anxious about the fact that you can get darkforced)


I agree, but to be fair the seasons are going to be closer to 3 months now, not 8.
You know what unit really has balance problems? Colossi. Why, they look like they could be blown over in a stiff wind!
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 16:47:52
April 13 2011 16:47 GMT
#454
On April 14 2011 01:22 supdubdup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
seems like atleast in my division all the people i was sure would get top200 are already promoted. bit surprised some that remain but well..



but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


i just dont understand what the hell the blizzard ladderguys are thinking. are they just trying to make the ladder as confusing and uncompetive as possible or are they just bad?



It's more like there's a clear goal to get to now. It's cooler to be top 200 of the entire NA than 3400 masters (of like 6000 players). I just wished that there were ways to get into GM that didn't involve a GM not playing for two weeks. DERP, log in once every 13 days and go 1-1. or 0-1, as long as they can.


If you go 0-1 every week you will fall out of GM in 2 weeks.

[edit] And if you go 1-1 you won't stay forever either.
Like a G6
oGm`REM
Profile Joined March 2011
United States870 Posts
April 13 2011 16:54 GMT
#455
On April 14 2011 01:47 kzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:22 supdubdup wrote:
On April 14 2011 01:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
seems like atleast in my division all the people i was sure would get top200 are already promoted. bit surprised some that remain but well..



but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


i just dont understand what the hell the blizzard ladderguys are thinking. are they just trying to make the ladder as confusing and uncompetive as possible or are they just bad?



It's more like there's a clear goal to get to now. It's cooler to be top 200 of the entire NA than 3400 masters (of like 6000 players). I just wished that there were ways to get into GM that didn't involve a GM not playing for two weeks. DERP, log in once every 13 days and go 1-1. or 0-1, as long as they can.


If you go 0-1 every week you will fall out of GM in 2 weeks.

[edit] And if you go 1-1 you won't stay forever either.

What about 2-1?
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
April 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#456
On April 14 2011 01:54 oGm`REM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:47 kzn wrote:
On April 14 2011 01:22 supdubdup wrote:
On April 14 2011 01:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
seems like atleast in my division all the people i was sure would get top200 are already promoted. bit surprised some that remain but well..



but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


i just dont understand what the hell the blizzard ladderguys are thinking. are they just trying to make the ladder as confusing and uncompetive as possible or are they just bad?



It's more like there's a clear goal to get to now. It's cooler to be top 200 of the entire NA than 3400 masters (of like 6000 players). I just wished that there were ways to get into GM that didn't involve a GM not playing for two weeks. DERP, log in once every 13 days and go 1-1. or 0-1, as long as they can.


If you go 0-1 every week you will fall out of GM in 2 weeks.

[edit] And if you go 1-1 you won't stay forever either.

What about 2-1?


Then you're starting to get into the zone of games where it depends who you're beating.
Like a G6
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
April 13 2011 17:04 GMT
#457
On April 14 2011 01:30 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:25 DiaBoLuS wrote:
all i hear is mimimi from ppl who wanna be in and didnt get into.

the only thing i dont get is darkforce, he was top 10 in europe for the last few weeks with 70%+ wins, has like 20 to 10 w/l since gml is up and simply does not get promoted, while others like me with much less points / ratio / MMR did.

People want to be motivated to improve. They dont want to wait 8 months for a chance to be rewarded(and then be anxious about the fact that you can get darkforced)


Pretty much this. Even tho its probably going to be 3 months (no one has confirmed the length of the new season as far as I know?). Its just stupid that people are getting into gm league with under 100 games played total in both season, and being 6-10 in this one.

While people like darkforce was on top of the ladder last season, has 75% winratio, and over 300 games played this season alone, does not get in.

There might be a system behind this somewhere, but since we are left in the dark, its frustrating for everyone who has been working their asses off, and then gets beat by someone who was mediocre last season, and has been sipping martini for the last two weeks.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 17:08:06
April 13 2011 17:07 GMT
#458
On April 14 2011 01:22 supdubdup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 01:17 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
seems like atleast in my division all the people i was sure would get top200 are already promoted. bit surprised some that remain but well..



but tbh overall for me its just another fail . a top200 that isnt real top200 and creates more confusion then anything yet again.


i just dont understand what the hell the blizzard ladderguys are thinking. are they just trying to make the ladder as confusing and uncompetive as possible or are they just bad?



It's more like there's a clear goal to get to now. It's cooler to be top 200 of the entire NA than 3400 masters (of like 6000 players). I just wished that there were ways to get into GM that didn't involve a GM not playing for two weeks. DERP, log in once every 13 days and go 1-1. or 0-1, as long as they can.


no prob with top200 league. but how they implemented this and the "lock" already defeats the purpose and makes it more of a top 100.

just like with evrything else in the sc2 ladder the basic idea is ok but how they did it is just bad and super confusing .
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Me1234
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany219 Posts
April 13 2011 17:16 GMT
#459
did artosis just give up? Region: #113 for sjArtosis

nearly all GM spots are taken and he's 113 in Masters league.. not good
Uhm?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
April 13 2011 17:20 GMT
#460
You will need to play alot more than 3 games every 13 days... If you you played 5 games cry 14 days and won them all you use around (5*12) 60 bonus. You have to keep ur bonus from rising over time. Without cruncing numbers (im on a phone on a bus) it os obvious that you will to play like at least ten winning games or more a week ( prolly more).
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