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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
April 13 2011 12:21 GMT
#421
On April 13 2011 21:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
Do my eyes deceive me or is combatex on there?

Combat-ex has been on the top of the NA ladder for a long time.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
April 13 2011 12:22 GMT
#422
On April 13 2011 21:20 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:33 ch33psh33p wrote:
On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D


Each slot has an mmr value assigned to it.

the lower values were snatched up quickly, so even players that may be better than the lower end of the GM league have higher MMR's now, they are still lower than the availiable remaning slots which are probably assigned to extremely high MMR values for pros that have yet to play their placement.

Therefore, it isn't a question of if oyu're good enough for most people from 100-200, its just simply they were too late

It's their fault for not having a top 200 mmr in the first place. If you have a top 200 mmr, you eun one game and you're in. If you play your first game late, then someone surpassed you and you're not top 200 in mmr anyways. I don't get why you guys are complaining. Mmr is the best way to measure pure skill. It doesn't reward players for mass gaming.


It's the best way to measure people that care about ladder. I'm pretty sure many top players use ladder for practice purposes, to test new stuff, while some other player that doesn't go to tournaments and doesn't win anything always plays to win on ladder even though he would get rapped at a tournament by those players that aren't on GM.
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
April 13 2011 12:25 GMT
#423
artosis is power laddering like a madman atm
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
April 13 2011 12:25 GMT
#424
On April 13 2011 21:20 sleepingdog wrote:
If Darkforce doesn't get in, a kitten will die. Wtf, top 5 zerg player in Europe, ladders his behind off and hasn't been promoted yet (he's streaming).

He's lost a lot recently, he was the first to 1k, but now he's in the 800 range.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 12:33:28
April 13 2011 12:31 GMT
#425
On April 13 2011 21:25 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 21:20 sleepingdog wrote:
If Darkforce doesn't get in, a kitten will die. Wtf, top 5 zerg player in Europe, ladders his behind off and hasn't been promoted yet (he's streaming).

He's lost a lot recently, he was the first to 1k, but now he's in the 800 range.


While I'm typing he just won against Welmu (rank 61st grandmaster)...

Anyways, I just wanted to point out that this system is quite stupid. There should've been an extended period where people can get in an out. After, say, a week GM should've been locked. Filling up the low-MMR-spots super fast, just because some ppl were not playing doesn't make any sense.

Darkforce doesn't get in because he would be of worse MMR...he doesn't get in because the mid/low-MMR spots seem to be taken. Therefore he has to get a really high MMR to get one of the "reserved" spots.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
April 13 2011 12:51 GMT
#426
And because I'm crazy.. Doing NA and EU at the same time ^^

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/15245-european-grandmasters-league-is-live

Current Race Totals
42 37 34 2

Also DaBoO is the first person to be on the same list twice on two different accounts (not counting smurfs)
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
ciaNo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Italy123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 12:57:40
April 13 2011 12:56 GMT
#427
I checked some profiles and i think its bugged. Check YaA current season's record and last season's.

Current season is 6-5 and last season was 3700 with over 1300 games. Am i missing something?
Mommas Boy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada144 Posts
April 13 2011 13:11 GMT
#428
200 people isnt enough IMO.
here to play.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 13 2011 13:15 GMT
#429
On April 13 2011 21:20 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:33 ch33psh33p wrote:
On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D


Each slot has an mmr value assigned to it.

the lower values were snatched up quickly, so even players that may be better than the lower end of the GM league have higher MMR's now, they are still lower than the availiable remaning slots which are probably assigned to extremely high MMR values for pros that have yet to play their placement.

Therefore, it isn't a question of if oyu're good enough for most people from 100-200, its just simply they were too late

It's their fault for not having a top 200 mmr in the first place. If you have a top 200 mmr, you eun one game and you're in. If you play your first game late, then someone surpassed you and you're not top 200 in mmr anyways. I don't get why you guys are complaining. Mmr is the best way to measure pure skill. It doesn't reward players for mass gaming.

The MMR from 100-400 is extremely packed, it was definetly more of a first come first serve basis, versus a, just having the high enouhg MMR.

I even checked out your account, if you played today, you would not be getting in. Don't act all high and mighty when you simply played early and stole one of hte lowerrated MMR slots. Its a flawed system, but no need to pretend its all perfect just becaus you landed a spot.
secret - never again
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
April 13 2011 13:37 GMT
#430
On April 13 2011 18:00 Contrail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 17:52 Dente wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:43 Contrail wrote:
i dont like the system

if you eg. if play in korea for a ladder season and then you move to america, you have to wait 2 ladder seasons to reach grandmaster


I wonder if it actually matters. If you get good enough, you will face grandmaster players whole the time, while you are still in masters. I don't think good players care about their league. Ladder is decent practice for them, but that should be it.


They could use grandmaster as pre-reqs to tournaments, or more likely as qualifying for battle-net finals at blizzcon.


They will never do it, since they lock it at the start of the season. Many topplayers will not be able to get into gm league.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 13:43:02
April 13 2011 13:42 GMT
#431
On April 13 2011 21:56 ciaNo wrote:
I checked some profiles and i think its bugged. Check YaA current season's record and last season's.

Current season is 6-5 and last season was 3700 with over 1300 games. Am i missing something?

Can't believe he is masters whereas Stephano isn't.

He is kinda decent but nothing special ... and definitly not GM material lol
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
April 13 2011 13:44 GMT
#432
On April 13 2011 22:42 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 21:56 ciaNo wrote:
I checked some profiles and i think its bugged. Check YaA current season's record and last season's.

Current season is 6-5 and last season was 3700 with over 1300 games. Am i missing something?

Can't believe he is masters whereas Stephano isn't.

He is kinda decent but nothing special ... and definitly not GM material lol

Stephano made it in about 25 minutes ago now
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
April 13 2011 14:35 GMT
#433
Seriously the way they are doing this is beyond stupid... you get "locked in"... why? I can't even imagine a reason for this. Also, i have a feeling that their little "moving average MMR" thing plays too big of a role... if one guy loses 10 games in a row that doesn't mean he isn't one of the best players in the world or anything. But that moving average MMR thing is 100% speculation on my part so who knows. The locked in thing... I really don't like.
Apologize.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 14:39:48
April 13 2011 14:37 GMT
#434
Is the NA grandmaster player list up somewhere?

E: previous page..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
April 13 2011 14:39 GMT
#435
On April 13 2011 23:37 Grettin wrote:
Is the NA grandmaster player list up somewhere?


Just check sc2ranks?
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
April 13 2011 14:39 GMT
#436
On April 13 2011 23:37 Grettin wrote:
Is the NA grandmaster player list up somewhere?

E: last page..

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/15234-north-american-grandmasters-league-is-live

I haven't updated it for quite a while.. still online like 5 people behind
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
April 13 2011 15:05 GMT
#437
gm league is the biggest mess ever in eu for example atndarkforce doesnt get in there besides his 800 points wtf has blizzard messed up there once again :/
Scrubington
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada475 Posts
April 13 2011 15:51 GMT
#438
On April 13 2011 23:39 DreamScaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 23:37 Grettin wrote:
Is the NA grandmaster player list up somewhere?

E: last page..

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/15234-north-american-grandmasters-league-is-live

I haven't updated it for quite a while.. still online like 5 people behind


CatZ not in ? He ladders quite a lot...
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
April 13 2011 16:01 GMT
#439
On April 14 2011 00:51 Scrubington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 23:39 DreamScaR wrote:
On April 13 2011 23:37 Grettin wrote:
Is the NA grandmaster player list up somewhere?

E: last page..

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/15234-north-american-grandmasters-league-is-live

I haven't updated it for quite a while.. still online like 5 people behind


CatZ not in ? He ladders quite a lot...

He may have gotten it recently, I haven't updated NA yet today.. EU has been very active :p
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
SilentDrop
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil29 Posts
April 13 2011 16:10 GMT
#440
You know whats funny? There will be more players in GM than masters league itself in LA. If masters league will have any players at all...

But i dont think being GM in LA counts, lol
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