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On April 13 2011 10:57 Razith wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 10:35 OrangeSoda wrote:On April 13 2011 10:34 Razith wrote: Is there a way to view GM league even though you aren't in it, and don't have a friend who's in it? I can't currently check. you either have to be logged into the site or ingame to check now, which is kinda annoying since you could check top 200 without being logged in before. Sorry I should of been more specific. Is there a way to check in-game without being in it / having a friend in it. If there is how do you go about it?
Yeah, of course, go to your Leagues tab, you have button there to go to GrandMasters . Special courtesy of Blizzard!
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i think what might be happening with these last few spots is that they are reserved by some players with very high MMR (read idra) and that is why other high level players like darkforce cannot seem to get in. he would have to play enough and win enough to have his MMR rise very very high i think to surpass the mmr levels of the last reserved spots, its the only explanation i think of some people playing right now and not getting in
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Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote: Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much? They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.
People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D
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Maybe the best _ladder_ strategy doesn't involve playing for the longest possible macro game every single time. What we could be seeing is that some ratio of cheese to keep your opponent from simply pure macro early game is optimal.
Hypothesis The best players will cheese frequently.
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On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote: Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much? They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one. People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D But still, its kinda strange how it works. I woke up today, won one game. No promotion. Then I lost two in a row and thought i was screwed. But then I won one more and got promoted. Didn't understand it.
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On April 13 2011 18:35 rjT. wrote: I was lauthing looking at the european gm so far, many many top players are out, i feel like blizzard is failing once again u know that gm on eu went live 2hours ago? not every pro player plays in the morning, there are plenty of spots left for the pros and they will get them after they play 1 game so they are not "OUT"
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Imo this whole "get in and be safe immediately" was a huge mistake since it's way too complicated to assure that every one who deserves to gets in really does. There should have been a period of - say - one week where players could get in and out of GM, after this week the league could have been locked. This way all these lucky players who get the "low" MMR spots would have had a much harder time staying in.
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Well, I get that a lot of people complain that maybe barely got top 200.
But for example how someone like darkforce can't get into GM, a person who is like one of the best zergs of those that actively play there, and the guy was like the first/second to get over 1k points.
Something seems kinda wrong there oO
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cheesed socke, won and im in! 
happy me^^
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On April 13 2011 17:52 Dente wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 17:43 Contrail wrote: i dont like the system
if you eg. if play in korea for a ladder season and then you move to america, you have to wait 2 ladder seasons to reach grandmaster I wonder if it actually matters. If you get good enough, you will face grandmaster players whole the time, while you are still in masters. I don't think good players care about their league. Ladder is decent practice for them, but that should be it. They will care if blizz suddenly announces that blizzcon is for GM's only or something
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On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote: Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much? They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one. People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D
True Beyonder! frustrated people need to stop complaining. I have played alot of 1 vs 1 ladder on EU and always have been between rank 100/300. Most of the players i see in GM so far i know from the ladder and all belong in GM. Remember that spots are still reserved for players with the highest MMR so the best players will appear over time. And crying about ranks? seriously? GM is barely a day old... did Master League rankings reflect the top after one day?
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On April 13 2011 19:11 jjd323 wrote: Maybe the best _ladder_ strategy doesn't involve playing for the longest possible macro game every single time. What we could be seeing is that some ratio of cheese to keep your opponent from simply pure macro early game is optimal.
Hypothesis The best players will cheese frequently.
just to remind you: each player you face as a top 200 player you know and you know his style.
1 strat / race doesnt work on that level anymore.
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On April 13 2011 19:25 Max_Muller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote: Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much? They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one. People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D True Beyonder! frustrated people need to stop complaining. I have played alot of 1 vs 1 ladder on EU and always have been between rank 100/300. Most of the players i see in GM so far i know from the ladder and all belong in GM. Remember that spots are still reserved for players with the highest MMR so the best players will appear over time. And crying about ranks? seriously? GM is barely a day old... did Master League rankings reflect the top after one day?
neither did it in the end completly^^
but the ranking is not meaningless as well
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On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote: Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much? They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one. People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D
Each slot has an mmr value assigned to it.
the lower values were snatched up quickly, so even players that may be better than the lower end of the GM league have higher MMR's now, they are still lower than the availiable remaning slots which are probably assigned to extremely high MMR values for pros that have yet to play their placement.
Therefore, it isn't a question of if oyu're good enough for most people from 100-200, its just simply they were too late
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eeeek, i tilted at 750 a day before and now im rank 277, thats no fun...
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
Do my eyes deceive me or is combatex on there?
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:33 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote: Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much? They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one. People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D Each slot has an mmr value assigned to it. the lower values were snatched up quickly, so even players that may be better than the lower end of the GM league have higher MMR's now, they are still lower than the availiable remaning slots which are probably assigned to extremely high MMR values for pros that have yet to play their placement. Therefore, it isn't a question of if oyu're good enough for most people from 100-200, its just simply they were too late It's their fault for not having a top 200 mmr in the first place. If you have a top 200 mmr, you eun one game and you're in. If you play your first game late, then someone surpassed you and you're not top 200 in mmr anyways. I don't get why you guys are complaining. Mmr is the best way to measure pure skill. It doesn't reward players for mass gaming.
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If Darkforce doesn't get in, a kitten will die. Wtf, top 5 zerg player in Europe, ladders his behind off and hasn't been promoted yet (he's streaming).
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