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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 13 2011 09:56 GMT
#401
On April 13 2011 10:57 Razith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 10:35 OrangeSoda wrote:
On April 13 2011 10:34 Razith wrote:
Is there a way to view GM league even though you aren't in it, and don't have a friend who's in it? I can't currently check.


you either have to be logged into the site or ingame to check now, which is kinda annoying since you could check top 200 without being logged in before.


Sorry I should of been more specific.

Is there a way to check in-game without being in it / having a friend in it. If there is how do you go about it?


Yeah, of course, go to your Leagues tab, you have button there to go to GrandMasters .
Special courtesy of Blizzard!
bornslippy
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia50 Posts
April 13 2011 10:05 GMT
#402
i think what might be happening with these last few spots is that they are reserved by some players with very high MMR (read idra) and that is why other high level players like darkforce cannot seem to get in. he would have to play enough and win enough to have his MMR rise very very high i think to surpass the mmr levels of the last reserved spots, its the only explanation i think of some people playing right now and not getting in
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Cajun2k1
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands399 Posts
April 13 2011 10:08 GMT
#403
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?
How can you kill, that which has no life?
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 13 2011 10:09 GMT
#404
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D
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jjd323
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom17 Posts
April 13 2011 10:11 GMT
#405
Maybe the best _ladder_ strategy doesn't involve playing for the longest possible macro game every single time. What we could be seeing is that some ratio of cheese to keep your opponent from simply pure macro early game is optimal.

Hypothesis
The best players will cheese frequently.
gakkgakk
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway902 Posts
April 13 2011 10:12 GMT
#406
On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D

But still, its kinda strange how it works. I woke up today, won one game. No promotion. Then I lost two in a row and thought i was screwed. But then I won one more and got promoted. Didn't understand it.
A timing is a build done by a player you like. An allin is a build done by one you dont. -sOda~
pycho
Profile Joined January 2011
Paraguay372 Posts
April 13 2011 10:15 GMT
#407
On April 13 2011 18:35 rjT. wrote:
I was lauthing looking at the european gm so far, many many top players are out, i feel like blizzard is failing once again

u know that gm on eu went live 2hours ago? not every pro player plays in the morning, there are plenty of spots left for the pros and they will get them after they play 1 game so they are not "OUT"
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
April 13 2011 10:18 GMT
#408
Imo this whole "get in and be safe immediately" was a huge mistake since it's way too complicated to assure that every one who deserves to gets in really does.
There should have been a period of - say - one week where players could get in and out of GM, after this week the league could have been locked. This way all these lucky players who get the "low" MMR spots would have had a much harder time staying in.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Icx
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Belgium853 Posts
April 13 2011 10:22 GMT
#409
Well, I get that a lot of people complain that maybe barely got top 200.

But for example how someone like darkforce can't get into GM, a person who is like one of the best zergs of those that actively play there, and the guy was like the first/second to get over 1k points.

Something seems kinda wrong there oO
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 10:26:57
April 13 2011 10:24 GMT
#410
cheesed socke, won and im in!

happy me^^
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
April 13 2011 10:25 GMT
#411
On April 13 2011 17:52 Dente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 17:43 Contrail wrote:
i dont like the system

if you eg. if play in korea for a ladder season and then you move to america, you have to wait 2 ladder seasons to reach grandmaster


I wonder if it actually matters. If you get good enough, you will face grandmaster players whole the time, while you are still in masters. I don't think good players care about their league. Ladder is decent practice for them, but that should be it.

They will care if blizz suddenly announces that blizzcon is for GM's only or something
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Max_Muller
Profile Joined November 2010
32 Posts
April 13 2011 10:25 GMT
#412
On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D


True Beyonder! frustrated people need to stop complaining. I have played alot of 1 vs 1 ladder on EU and always have been between rank 100/300. Most of the players i see in GM so far i know from the ladder and all belong in GM. Remember that spots are still reserved for players with the highest MMR so the best players will appear over time. And crying about ranks? seriously? GM is barely a day old... did Master League rankings reflect the top after one day?

DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 13 2011 10:26 GMT
#413
On April 13 2011 19:11 jjd323 wrote:
Maybe the best _ladder_ strategy doesn't involve playing for the longest possible macro game every single time. What we could be seeing is that some ratio of cheese to keep your opponent from simply pure macro early game is optimal.

Hypothesis
The best players will cheese frequently.


just to remind you: each player you face as a top 200 player you know and you know his style.

1 strat / race doesnt work on that level anymore.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 13 2011 10:28 GMT
#414
On April 13 2011 19:25 Max_Muller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D


True Beyonder! frustrated people need to stop complaining. I have played alot of 1 vs 1 ladder on EU and always have been between rank 100/300. Most of the players i see in GM so far i know from the ladder and all belong in GM. Remember that spots are still reserved for players with the highest MMR so the best players will appear over time. And crying about ranks? seriously? GM is barely a day old... did Master League rankings reflect the top after one day?



neither did it in the end completly^^

but the ranking is not meaningless as well
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 13 2011 10:33 GMT
#415
On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D


Each slot has an mmr value assigned to it.

the lower values were snatched up quickly, so even players that may be better than the lower end of the GM league have higher MMR's now, they are still lower than the availiable remaning slots which are probably assigned to extremely high MMR values for pros that have yet to play their placement.

Therefore, it isn't a question of if oyu're good enough for most people from 100-200, its just simply they were too late
secret - never again
Boyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 10:47:03
April 13 2011 10:46 GMT
#416
eeeek, i tilted at 750 a day before and now im rank 277, thats no fun...
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 11:38:04
April 13 2011 11:37 GMT
#417
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/15234-north-american-grandmasters-league-is-live

Now sitting at 185 of 200. (Z)IdrA still hasn't played his game, and he's running out of time!

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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 13 2011 12:08 GMT
#418
Do my eyes deceive me or is combatex on there?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
April 13 2011 12:20 GMT
#419
On April 13 2011 19:33 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 19:09 Beyonder wrote:
On April 13 2011 19:08 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Daboo, dutch pro-gamer is in there with 2 accounts, LLLDaboo and PraeDaboo. Really weird to not be able to recognize 90% of those names. TLO still isn't in it, no naniwa as far as I can see, maybe they haven't laddered that much?

They just have not played yet, but TLO is in the American one.

People need to stop complaining really. If you are not in, you either have not played enough to reach the desired MMR level, or you are not good enough to reach it. Reality check! :D


Each slot has an mmr value assigned to it.

the lower values were snatched up quickly, so even players that may be better than the lower end of the GM league have higher MMR's now, they are still lower than the availiable remaning slots which are probably assigned to extremely high MMR values for pros that have yet to play their placement.

Therefore, it isn't a question of if oyu're good enough for most people from 100-200, its just simply they were too late

It's their fault for not having a top 200 mmr in the first place. If you have a top 200 mmr, you eun one game and you're in. If you play your first game late, then someone surpassed you and you're not top 200 in mmr anyways. I don't get why you guys are complaining. Mmr is the best way to measure pure skill. It doesn't reward players for mass gaming.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
April 13 2011 12:20 GMT
#420
If Darkforce doesn't get in, a kitten will die. Wtf, top 5 zerg player in Europe, ladders his behind off and hasn't been promoted yet (he's streaming).
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