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double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
March 10 2011 07:51 GMT
#281
I think its nice to have quite a lot tournament coming still the level of GSL is quite above the other league, its just my personal opinion after having heard White-Ra really has a strong opinion about the level of Korean players in an interview and seen the IEM being dominated by 3 GSL code A Korean players. To me the number of players or how it organizing is not really matter so as long as GSL still remain the league of the best, it is still my top priority
Starcraft FTW
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
March 10 2011 07:52 GMT
#282
I missed that interview, what did White-Ra say?
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 10 2011 07:53 GMT
#283
I don't watch GSL because of the foreigners but because of the incredible skill and good commentary. When a foreigner is playing I'm always cheering for him, but I won't stop watching GSL as long as it is the highest level of gameplay.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Teth
Profile Joined March 2011
United States15 Posts
March 10 2011 07:53 GMT
#284
GSL has fantastic production quality. Its very enjoyable to watch. Its obviously more competitive than any other league at the moment. That being said, I still probably am in favor of MLG and hopefully NASL. It just seems more personal having it in the States. Ive been to mutiple MLG events for for non-SC2 events and it was a blast. I guess I just can't relate to the GSL as well. Still, as long as Tastosis is going strong, I will be tuning into the GSL as much as I can.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
March 10 2011 07:58 GMT
#285
GSL is becoming better with each season and if anything, my interest in it increases.

Obviously I'm also looking forward to all other events and leagues, but let's be honest: There's not much on the horizon. TSL3 will be awesome of course, but it's a one-time thing. Only the NASL could come close but I'm pretty sure that (in the beginning) it won't deliver what I enjoy so much about the GSL - high level games and high level commentary. That may improve, of course, but the foreigner performances so far (Assembly, IEM etc) couldn't really compare to what we're used from the Koreans.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 10 2011 07:59 GMT
#286
GSL still has the best production value. Things are easy to find etc. The koreans have been doing this for years. It's hard to catch up. Sure, I like guys like Huk and WhiteRa, but I'll just have to stick to seeing select games of theirs casted on Youtube or something.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Flare23
Profile Joined September 2010
United States27 Posts
March 10 2011 08:01 GMT
#287
On March 10 2011 16:11 Vei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 15:33 Buddhist wrote:
On March 10 2011 15:30 rS.Sinatra wrote:
On March 10 2011 15:24 Buddhist wrote:
My interest in GSL is dropping, and I never had interest in other tourneys either.

It's mostly the dwindling amount of Tasteless/Artosis.

Kelly's accent is really quite horrible. She pronounces everything incredibly stupidly. That other guy (whose name I don't even know) is alright but it sounds like everything is forced, like he just says things because other casters do.

(ノ`٥´)ノ what is this shit? (ノ`٥´)ノ


now you know how your American accent sounds to the rest of the world

Er, no.

Every native English speaker pronounces the "i" in "stim" the same way. It's not steam, it's stim.

Americans and Canadians pronounce almost everything the EXACT same way, too, and UK/Australian accents sound quite nice.

I wouldn't even be bothered by almost any of her accent, I find it far less a problem than most people, but what REALLY annoys me is her seeming laziness. It's not hard to just NOT pronounce "stim" wrong, like seriously. Stim, not steam.

I know they have the "ih" sound in asia.

edit: Also everything she says has the infliction of a question on it, and she leaves off the s from words.

He forget to siege his tank?
He need to steam his marine?

are you fucking kidding me
english is a) impossibly hard as a second language, it's a miracle she can speak it as well as she does
b) she's very understandable. if you were learning japanese/casting in japanese, some obvious inflections to them would be incredibly subtle to you. she's obviously been working on her accent because it's improve a ton, but you can't expect her to pronounce everything 100% properly in a language that is BASED on exceptions and not rules to pronunciation/spelling. i noticed the stim/steam thing too but it's not laziness, i'm sure she's put in a ton of fucking work.

and yes i hated her at first but now i think she's decent. it's just ANY casting combo that lacks artosis fucking sucks because you get no analysis on a pro level, but you guys seem to not mention that and just focus on her accent. the problem is way more the lack of artosis, be real.


should be noted that English is the official language of Singapore
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
March 10 2011 08:05 GMT
#288
Don't think any foreign tournament will compare to GSL, not anytime soon anyway.

That said I was sad this season because all the players I'm a fan of are out but I still watched because there were some amazing unknown players left in both Code A and S.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 10 2011 08:06 GMT
#289
Of course not! I might watch NASL in addition to the GSL, but that depends on the time it is streamed, as well as the level of play inside of it. I hope the western esports scene finally gets together and starts forming team houses like in Korea, especially since, it seems, you can make money off it here easier than in Korea with all the various tournaments around. :-)
TL.happYhOUR
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada22 Posts
March 10 2011 08:06 GMT
#290
On March 10 2011 16:40 rS.Sinatra wrote:
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On March 10 2011 16:16 TL.happYhOUR wrote:
Yes and No i feel that its the same thing over and over again. Alot of the games are tvt tvp pvp. Zv* is lacking and if so its going to be an allings. SC right now feels very bland. I was just watch this old interview and Nony made a good point early and i feel it is so. Have a look



This youtube video couldn't have been more wrong. If you want more styles, put more features in the game (aka more units, maybe bigger maps, maybe higher food count) if you want more shit to do, expand the game, don't rag on mechanics being efficient. Shouldn't ever have to fight with the computer about how you control your economy and units.

Computers some day will be mind-interface, should we still resort to keyboards then? No, expand the game... more entertaining anyways.



Starcraft games can already be determined by single units. should we add more of that? Adding new units can be good but its more than that. For example the hellion drop can gg you of your not ready for it. but if you are and kill it it doesn't even punish terran hard enough for chosing to get it. There should be a risky factor.Like if protoss rushes for dts and it fails the amount of resourses invested in to teching up for dts and having it fails set you back. It can produce interesting games but there is that risk factors. Also scouting can be really difficult early game. Should we bring back lurkers when hydras are tier 2 after lair btw hydras is so expensive what more do we pay for lurkers? 300 food food is very interesting but who knows we might see a 300 army death ball or 300 zerg push? but this is not a balance decision im no expert. im just saying Gsl is really the highest level of completion for sc2 but there is alot of tvt tvp and mirror. How interesting can that be if you watch it over and over again? So back to the tread i will still follow gsl because it is after all the highest level. Pros seem to agree that the korean ladder is the hardest by far. So new interesting builds will most likely come from the gsl and i would like to witness it when it happens.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
March 10 2011 08:11 GMT
#291
Its pretty hard to get interest to watch anything OTHER than GSL when even big tournaments like IEM are organised so piss-poorly.

Half the time I'd tune into what was supposed to be the SC2 stream only to have 15 minutes of Counterstrike being streamed for some unknown reason.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 10 2011 08:13 GMT
#292
There isn't anything out there that even comes close to the skill level of players and production quality of GSL.

The casters/players/even the pop songs in the beginning/ the booths/ the announcers and the list goes on.

Tell me one tourney that can compete in any of those areas?
Acid~
Profile Joined September 2010
Thailand442 Posts
March 10 2011 08:13 GMT
#293
GSL has the best players, the best maps, the best casters and the best production value of any SC2 tournament/league so far.

Why should our interest be lowering ?
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
March 10 2011 08:18 GMT
#294
I really find code A hard to watch now, no offense to these new people, I just don't enjoy their casting. They need to bring in someone new who can be analytical and fill the void left by Artosis.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
March 10 2011 08:21 GMT
#295
My interest is increasing with the recent improvements of code A players and new maps. As a paying customer i'm really pleased, and i will continue to pay for the amazing production value and entertainment.

Can't really understand people who talk about free stuff. One whole season of GSL has been between 10-20 bucks, that's one or two pizzas.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 08:45:22
March 10 2011 08:23 GMT
#296
GSL provides the absolute best SC2 play there is and it's only getting better with every season with stuff like maps and skill level of some code A players. They also provide the best caster there is, Artosis. I've watched every single game since the first season and I have no intention of stopping. I love high level Starcraft. I couldn't care less about the lack of foreigners in GSL. That's just proof that Koreans are better. I don't care about foreigners that aren't able to compete at the highest level.

I'll watch TSL for sure but since TL in general gets off on seeing the best of the best as well they've made sure to field some of the best players from GSL. It's only a single one time tournament though so it isn't really relevant. MLG is just a weekend and is as such, also irrelevant, in comparison with GSL. We'll see how NASL turns out, but if they don't field some heavy hitters from Korea I'll probably end up watching only Idra's games.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
March 10 2011 08:23 GMT
#297
On March 10 2011 16:52 esaul17 wrote:
I missed that interview, what did White-Ra say?

Did you see some GSL matches recently?

White-Ra: Yes I did, but I did not focus too much on them.

There were many All-in-Games.

White-Ra: I don't like these tactics. I do love skill-based games. I do not like the way Koreans play.

Why not?

White-Ra: Because there aren't many good gamers. We don't see matches like the matches between European and American gamers. We do have more guys who show an interesting playstyle. The Koreans do not play with big engagements. And I don't think that this is good for the community.

For ur reference: http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/intel-extreme-masters/season-5/european-championship-finals-kiew/artikel/iem-kiew-sc2-whitera-interview-englisch.html
Starcraft FTW
Quixxotik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States54 Posts
March 10 2011 08:26 GMT
#298
This post seemed really racist, what with all the talk about foreigners etc. I watch games in the GSL because they are the ones with the players that have the overall highest skill. The caliber of the tournament is much greater, as is the competitiveness, so I simply do not care for lack of foreigners.
firefistAce
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States137 Posts
March 10 2011 08:27 GMT
#299
i stopped watching, i think partly because idra dropped out. he was my foreigner zerg hero!
Please excuse my English as I am an American on the internet.
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
March 10 2011 08:27 GMT
#300
GSL is just so exciting, and besides, it'll be hard to surpass the great casting Archon that is Tasteosis who greatly enhance the spectating experience. Games in code S GSL are also generally more impressive that what you can find elsewhere.

So no, it hasn't lowered at all.
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