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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 10 2011 08:29 GMT
#301
On March 10 2011 17:23 double1185 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 16:52 esaul17 wrote:
I missed that interview, what did White-Ra say?

Did you see some GSL matches recently?

White-Ra: Yes I did, but I did not focus too much on them.

There were many All-in-Games.

White-Ra: I don't like these tactics. I do love skill-based games. I do not like the way Koreans play.

Why not?

White-Ra: Because there aren't many good gamers. We don't see matches like the matches between European and American gamers. We do have more guys who show an interesting playstyle. The Koreans do not play with big engagements. And I don't think that this is good for the community.

For ur reference: http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/intel-extreme-masters/season-5/european-championship-finals-kiew/artikel/iem-kiew-sc2-whitera-interview-englisch.html


LOL, what a troll White-Ra is. He is welcome to go over to GSL and show us the "skill based" games, whatever that means.

That was an awful and, really not exepcted, thing to say from such a respected player as him.

He comes out, at best, looking like a troll.
Dangnabit
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada6 Posts
March 10 2011 08:31 GMT
#302
My interest in the GSL is still quite high. I love the Code S matches, and there have been some epic Code A matches so far but the only thing that gets me for the code A matches is the lack of tastetosis, Kellys accent is hard to listen to sometimes, but I have no doubt that she is working hard at it, I think a lot of people have been over critical of her and I'd be very surprised if she hasn't noticed some of it as well which is pretty unfortunate because casting professional SC2 games where things can happen so fast at times in a second language can't be all that easy and there are bound to be mistakes.

Plus the production quality is pretty outstanding especially when compared to everything else.
it's funny when someone sees you walk through a spider web but doesn't see the web.
zivac
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia389 Posts
March 10 2011 08:38 GMT
#303
ATM GSL is my only interest, don't have time to watch other tournaments, and i don't rate players geographically, I just love to watch intensive games, don't care who is on other side of keyboard...
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
March 10 2011 08:44 GMT
#304
GSL is still my top interest. It's where the the top players is. TSL, MLG, NASL is great but the quality don't match GSL.
Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
March 10 2011 08:46 GMT
#305
I will watch all competitions as I love watching sc2. Don't even play it much myself anymore. GSL will always be the highest calibre, but watching MLG etc is still good.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 10 2011 08:49 GMT
#306
Why do we have to choose? I'm going to be following all intently, but frankly I respect the fact that GSL is still going to be the top competition in the world.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
March 10 2011 08:51 GMT
#307
On March 10 2011 17:29 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 17:23 double1185 wrote:
On March 10 2011 16:52 esaul17 wrote:
I missed that interview, what did White-Ra say?

Did you see some GSL matches recently?

White-Ra: Yes I did, but I did not focus too much on them.

There were many All-in-Games.

White-Ra: I don't like these tactics. I do love skill-based games. I do not like the way Koreans play.

Why not?

White-Ra: Because there aren't many good gamers. We don't see matches like the matches between European and American gamers. We do have more guys who show an interesting playstyle. The Koreans do not play with big engagements. And I don't think that this is good for the community.

For ur reference: http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/intel-extreme-masters/season-5/european-championship-finals-kiew/artikel/iem-kiew-sc2-whitera-interview-englisch.html


LOL, what a troll White-Ra is. He is welcome to go over to GSL and show us the "skill based" games, whatever that means.

That was an awful and, really not exepcted, thing to say from such a respected player as him.

He comes out, at best, looking like a troll.


I think that interview was after IEM kiev, not hannover, during which the GSL was a stupid all-in fest, especially TvZ. White-Ra's comments were justified. Now im sure he would say different things.
White-Ra fighting!
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 08:53:55
March 10 2011 08:53 GMT
#308
I stopped looking when they switched format. I liked the format they had last year but now with up and down matches, A and S class etc it is just confusing. Also it is to many matches, I have to prioritze my SC time and it more fun to play then to watch.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
March 10 2011 08:55 GMT
#309
Yes, although I'm usually up at the hours GSL is on I like to buy the premium tickets so that I can rewatch PvX games since they are more entertaining since I play Protoss.
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 08:57:14
March 10 2011 08:56 GMT
#310
I'm still really interested in GSL, both Code A and S as well as the team leagues too.
I <3 Plexa.
Jhax
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland201 Posts
March 10 2011 08:57 GMT
#311
Never get to watch it because I'm in GMT but if I have the morning off or I'm on a break from school I always watch.
Fast and Free
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 10 2011 08:59 GMT
#312
GSL is still the best tournament there is. Awesome casters, players and maps. It's getting better season by season.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 10 2011 09:00 GMT
#313
to lazy to install the gom player thingie or whatever i need heh. But my interest is rising in watching the gsl, as macro only gamestyles are getting rarer ^^.
Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
March 10 2011 09:02 GMT
#314
On March 10 2011 16:11 Vei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 15:33 Buddhist wrote:
On March 10 2011 15:30 rS.Sinatra wrote:
On March 10 2011 15:24 Buddhist wrote:
My interest in GSL is dropping, and I never had interest in other tourneys either.

It's mostly the dwindling amount of Tasteless/Artosis.

Kelly's accent is really quite horrible. She pronounces everything incredibly stupidly. That other guy (whose name I don't even know) is alright but it sounds like everything is forced, like he just says things because other casters do.

(ノ`٥´)ノ what is this shit? (ノ`٥´)ノ


now you know how your American accent sounds to the rest of the world

Er, no.

Every native English speaker pronounces the "i" in "stim" the same way. It's not steam, it's stim.

Americans and Canadians pronounce almost everything the EXACT same way, too, and UK/Australian accents sound quite nice.

I wouldn't even be bothered by almost any of her accent, I find it far less a problem than most people, but what REALLY annoys me is her seeming laziness. It's not hard to just NOT pronounce "stim" wrong, like seriously. Stim, not steam.

I know they have the "ih" sound in asia.

edit: Also everything she says has the infliction of a question on it, and she leaves off the s from words.

He forget to siege his tank?
He need to steam his marine?

are you fucking kidding me
english is a) impossibly hard as a second language, it's a miracle she can speak it as well as she does
b) she's very understandable. if you were learning japanese/casting in japanese, some obvious inflections to them would be incredibly subtle to you. she's obviously been working on her accent because it's improve a ton, but you can't expect her to pronounce everything 100% properly in a language that is BASED on exceptions and not rules to pronunciation/spelling. i noticed the stim/steam thing too but it's not laziness, i'm sure she's put in a ton of fucking work.

and yes i hated her at first but now i think she's decent. it's just ANY casting combo that lacks artosis fucking sucks because you get no analysis on a pro level, but you guys seem to not mention that and just focus on her accent. the problem is way more the lack of artosis, be real.

The lack of pro-level analysis is obvious.

What people seem to not understand is: Yes, I can understand everything she says. However, "stim" is not "steam", and that's not subtle at all.

It has the letter i in it. Like, seriously.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 10 2011 09:03 GMT
#315
On March 10 2011 17:59 Weavel wrote:
GSL is still the best tournament there is. Awesome casters, players and maps. It's getting better season by season.


I dunno about getting better season by season, but the rest of the points are so true.

But no, i'm not losing interest in GSL. Just having less time watching the games.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
March 10 2011 09:05 GMT
#316
GSL is still my biggest interest in SC2 by far. Best players, best production, etc etc.

TSL will be awesome and I can't wait for that, but it's not like it's as regular an occurence as the other big events.

MLG's should be pretty good and I'll try catch them when I can, hopefully we can get a nice international attendance at them too.

Don't really care too much about the NASL right now in comparison to the others, though hopefully their first season is worth watching a bit of. More interested in seeing the development of the FXOpen events tbh.
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
March 10 2011 09:09 GMT
#317
Kelly kinda killing it for me in code A otherwise I watch the free VODS on GOM or watch the live free stream when I plan on not sleeping -_-
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
March 10 2011 09:14 GMT
#318
I continue to watch Code S and code A. If i have time i will watch the NASL, but i don't think i will pay for that as well. The best players, the best casters and the best show is (for now) in korea in the gsl. If that will change in the future I might consider switching, but as of now i will continue watch gsl
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
March 10 2011 09:17 GMT
#319
tsl main tournaments will be main prio, but it's no lan, and the tournaments will be far in between. i have almost no interest for watching tlopens.

gsl will remain no.1 overall, and i strongly doubt mlg or nasl will usurp that spot this year

the level of play, innovation, skill, and production values inherent to such a huge(ly competitive) lan tournament, coupled with the extremely high production is a tough nut to crack. mlg and whatever other leagues are gonna have to step it up hardcore to reach that level, and i don't see it happening at least for the first 3/4ths of 2011.

2-3mb hq streams do not compensate for the production quality, longer duration, nonstop live coverage, and so on + the significantly higher skill ceiling of the korean tournament.

even with the way the mlg and nasl are shaping up atm, -!admittedly from the little info released-, eye candy for few $ and popular names do nothing for me to overlook the huge gap in professionalism and scale compared to the gsl

i understand other people want to cheer for their westerners and all, but i'm not that guy. i care about the best and most entertaining players, if they're all korean i'll watch them play, if they're all american, then i'll watch them. i also care about the insanely competitive qualifier process - let's see some westerner training houses develop for several months and some more hardcore professional training, then i might be more interested in the western tournaments

NOTE: i will still follow them, i think the eu-na tourneys this year are gonna be hugely entertaining and the scene will blow up, i am definitely looking forward to it; however, we're a long way off from me not paying my season ticket, and even if things go smooth and the foreign scene explodes over a few months, gsl will still be top3 at worst.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 10 2011 09:18 GMT
#320
On March 10 2011 17:51 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 17:29 papaz wrote:
On March 10 2011 17:23 double1185 wrote:
On March 10 2011 16:52 esaul17 wrote:
I missed that interview, what did White-Ra say?

Did you see some GSL matches recently?

White-Ra: Yes I did, but I did not focus too much on them.

There were many All-in-Games.

White-Ra: I don't like these tactics. I do love skill-based games. I do not like the way Koreans play.

Why not?

White-Ra: Because there aren't many good gamers. We don't see matches like the matches between European and American gamers. We do have more guys who show an interesting playstyle. The Koreans do not play with big engagements. And I don't think that this is good for the community.

For ur reference: http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/intel-extreme-masters/season-5/european-championship-finals-kiew/artikel/iem-kiew-sc2-whitera-interview-englisch.html


LOL, what a troll White-Ra is. He is welcome to go over to GSL and show us the "skill based" games, whatever that means.

That was an awful and, really not exepcted, thing to say from such a respected player as him.

He comes out, at best, looking like a troll.


I think that interview was after IEM kiev, not hannover, during which the GSL was a stupid all-in fest, especially TvZ. White-Ra's comments were justified. Now im sure he would say different things.


That's good to hear. I'm a pretty big White-Ra fan, and if that was still his opinion in the wake of this current GSL and the most recent IEM, I'd be very disappointed.
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