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freetgy
1720 Posts
On March 11 2011 07:51 MisterPuppy wrote: So has anyone realized that Fungal Growth, with +30% mechanical damage, now 1 shots scvs? It does 36+30%, so 46.8 damage, while an SCV has 45 health. Pretty awesome. scvs are not armored | ||
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Shade_FR
France378 Posts
On March 11 2011 07:51 MisterPuppy wrote: So has anyone realized that Fungal Growth, with +30% mechanical damage, now 1 shots scvs? It does 36+30%, so 46.8 damage, while an SCV has 45 health. Pretty awesome. It does +30% against Armored. Not Mechanical. | ||
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MisterPuppy
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
Not that it is too strong, or will be too strong, mind you, but I just do not think a spell like fungal growth is good for the game. It reminds me now of Frost Nova by the Lich hero from WC3. A long range, instant-hit spell that removes speed and does a lot of damage. I never liked the spell there, and I don't think I will enjoy the new version either. What blizzard should do is mimic the high templar / ghost dynamic as it currently exists. Let infestors be a very powerful unit that is hard to control and whose biggest weakness is being killed or mana drained by ghost/HT. If it gets in a position to deal damage, you can try to avoid the damage a bit, but it will still be powerful. Require zerg players to be smart about burrow usage, infestor harassment, spreading them out, and so on. I mean, when people say SCII doesn't require micro... blizzard has a trackrecord of removing anything facilitating tricky versions of it. (spellcaster usage, the viking flowers, fazing, the burrowed-casting trick for infestors) Instead they promote games that are like Naniwa vs Morrow just now, where you have the roach blob vs the colossus blob and as a result it's boring. I personally enjoy more lengthy games with a lot of tactic usage a lot, and I just don't want the 2base deathball games. :/ | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On March 11 2011 06:15 TheAura wrote: Ghost change = 100 energy drained max on EMP Ugh, Ghost just lost a lot of their ability to deal with Sentries. That's annoying since there were interesting Ghost/Marauder builds floating around versus Protoss in the early game that revolved around crushing the Immortal/Sentry combination with force fields. Plus that was my build of choice.  May be for the best though. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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CheeseGrater
United States290 Posts
On March 11 2011 07:51 MisterPuppy wrote: So has anyone realized that Fungal Growth, with +30% mechanical damage, now 1 shots scvs? It does 36+30%, so 46.8 damage, while an SCV has 45 health. Pretty awesome. Yep, and think of the Protoss death ball. Stalkers, void rays, colossus, are all armored. Now fungal does the same damage as before to all of that but twice as fast, and an extra +30% to armored. Pretty sweet if you ask me. | ||
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zeroISM
Japan161 Posts
- An alert has been added when the Chrono Boost buff expires. - An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires. Couldn't find any reply regarding these. What does this mean? I hope it's not some audio adjudant screaming "Spaawwn more Larva" or "Drop that MULE!". That would ruin one aspect of macro, which is knowing when you have to look at your base to do stuff... Does someone have a heads up on this? | ||
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familyguy123
92 Posts
No mention of Amulet + 15? | ||
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
On March 11 2011 08:00 CheeseGrater wrote: Yep, and think of the Protoss death ball. Stalkers, void rays, colossus, are all armored. Now fungal does the same damage as before to all of that but twice as fast, and an extra +30% to armored. Pretty sweet if you ask me. It's still only 47 damage. I mean it's nice that it does it twice as fast, but the damage is still pretty low when it's on protoss units. Bio-ball is a different story however. | ||
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Hollywise
France112 Posts
On March 11 2011 07:59 Grumbels wrote: I hope Blizzard is saving all the "fun" changes for the major HotS patch, because I think fungal growth as a missile would make the infestor a more balanceable unit. Instant cast is so silly, a lot of damage you simply can't avoid and on top of that it removes your ability to micro. same for forcefields, storms and emp | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13407 Posts
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
- An alert has been added when MULEs expire. - An alert has been added when the Chrono Boost buff expires. - An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires. Couldn't find any reply regarding these. What does this mean? Much like the "alerts" that you see on the left hand side of your screen when a unit / structure / upgrade is completed. | ||
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Velocity`
United Kingdom343 Posts
Anyway, I'm looking forward to how the new infestor is going to be used by pros. Looks like it might become very useful in the Zerg arsenal. | ||
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eloist
United States1017 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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freetgy
1720 Posts
On March 11 2011 08:17 eloist wrote: I think the EMP change is the perfect balance companion to the Amulet removal. EMP needs a cooldown (like storm already has) than it could be considered balanced, as it is now Ghost can still just emp everything in a split second. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
Basically what blizzard is saying is that you have to tech up the most expensive and long tech tree, research a 200/200 upgrade, warp in a 150 gas unit and wait like 5 minutes until it builds up enough energy to be able to even do minimal guaranteed damage that can be micro'ed out of pretty easily? Death of the HT imo, colossi is going to be all protoss get now. One or two lucky/good EMPs by the terran = gg, because now protoss will have to wait almost two minutes for any splash damage, and we all know how good protoss does against stimmed MMM without splash. I could understand making the upgrade +15 or +20 instead of instant storm, but removing it altogether is blasphemy. Why not buff terran late game instead of nerfing a unit that is countering what it's supposed to counter? Why are you changing the game so that its possible for terran to stay tier 1 the whole game and steamroll, instead of making their tier 2 and 3 late game more accessible. I'm tired of these nerfs. Blizzard is nerfing the game to the point of it just becoming annoying to play. More buffs, less nerfs, preach it! | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
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GinDo
3327 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1) Get rid of Smart Cast. 2) Make EMP an upgrade and 100 energy. It takes all shields like in BW. 3) Make Ghosts Academy Tier 3 like in BW 4) Make Spell Casters have old BW energy upgrades. Start with a little more energy and bigger energy bank. 5) Buff Spells in Damage. 6) Remove Fungal Freeze effect-and 100 energy and an upgrade.-Remember it has Damage buff. 7) Buff HSM 8) Make PDD a research | ||
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