• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:12
CEST 18:12
KST 01:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE14Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"9
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Official Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6480 users

IdrA withdrawing from GSL March, returns to US - Page 8

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 23 Next All
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
February 16 2011 08:33 GMT
#141
My first thought was "oh damn! That's too bad! Another foreigner giving up"
Cause that'd be the natural thought process if this was BW.

Then I remembered, this isn't BW. And we actually should be really happy about this. The aim of all this is to make the foreign e-sport scene so big that.. well.. that we'd stop refereing to it as the "foreign scene".

Great! The first great step towards creating something comparable to the GSL over here.
Who knows, with big tournaments like the TSL coming up, maybe we'll have your own GSL soon.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 08:35:40
February 16 2011 08:33 GMT
#142
For Idra's former group, I think this is what is going to happen:

Zenio vs Byun -> winner advances
Loser will have to beat Clide twice (with Clide having to win once) to advance.

I'm also a bit sad with this announcement, although the NASL is something to look forward to. Maybe one day there can be a Champions League type format with the best from the leagues competing.
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
February 16 2011 08:34 GMT
#143
Well, I'm sure he made the best choice for him and his team. I wish him luck.

For myself, I'm sad. He was "our guy" in Korea since the start. Now he's another NA progamer. Still a great one. Of course. And I hope he tears through the tournament scene. But it's the end of an era.

glgl, IdrA!
Dance those ultras
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
February 16 2011 08:34 GMT
#144
Hopefully more people leave GSL so that some competition between tournaments happen and the $20 to watch thing goes away.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
February 16 2011 08:36 GMT
#145
Idra tried for years to triumph in Korea, first at Entus in Broowar and now in SC2. I thought he was doing fine in GSL with some pretty consistent results but he seems to have grown frustrated because there was a wall that he couldn't break. It's kind of disappointing as Korea is the most competitive country for SC2 today. Ret and Shinro, beating everybody in the most important foreigner tournaments, have shown how good you can become thanks to the gaming environment and the korean-style training. It's a poor decision for sports, but i guess he will win more money beating sub-par foreigners pros.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
February 16 2011 08:36 GMT
#146
I hope everything will work out fine for him!
This new league must be a really big thing.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
February 16 2011 08:37 GMT
#147
Well this is perfectly undersantable from Idras perspective.

Outside of korea he will win a lot of tourneys and make much more money.

Sure all the other leagues will not be considered as difficult or competitive as GSL but at the end of the day Idra is a professional player looking for making money.

I expect the other non koreans to follow his footstep.

Annq
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany104 Posts
February 16 2011 08:37 GMT
#148
I feel sad for Tasteless and Artosis, dont they want to commentate together with Day9 the new (possible) League?
Cheeselicker
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom78 Posts
February 16 2011 08:39 GMT
#149
for all the matches which Greg is supposed to play, the opponents will get a free win.

So how is this different from when Idra was in korea?

Just kidding- can't wait to see Idra demolish some nerds in the US.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
February 16 2011 08:41 GMT
#150
So i'm guessing that maybe this has something to do with the big announcement?

Anyways, i like it. Now we get to see him in more tournaments :D
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
February 16 2011 08:41 GMT
#151
On February 16 2011 17:37 Annq wrote:
I feel sad for Tasteless and Artosis, dont they want to commentate together with Day9 the new (possible) League?

Not so fast my friend.
We still need to leave some people behind in Korea to gather information about metagames and stuff from the Korean scene.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
February 16 2011 08:42 GMT
#152
Is Idra still going to be considered Code S or will have have to earn his way back in?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 16 2011 08:44 GMT
#153
On February 16 2011 17:41 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 17:37 Annq wrote:
I feel sad for Tasteless and Artosis, dont they want to commentate together with Day9 the new (possible) League?

Not so fast my friend.
We still need to leave some people behind in Korea to gather information about metagames and stuff from the Korean scene.

Indeed. Tastosis is our English-speaking bridge to the entire Korean scene, and it would be infinitely more difficult for the Korean scene to get more recognition in the West without them.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
February 16 2011 08:50 GMT
#154
Understandable move from Idra! i would prefer seeing him continue in korea though ofc
explicit
Profile Joined August 2010
52 Posts
February 16 2011 08:51 GMT
#155
I think this is sort of sad, idra will dominate the western scene which makes western players play better - but also it will put idra out of practice. Having watched the current "top" players from the west play and GSL/idra, i think skillwise they are leagues apart and they'll just end up meeting somewhere in the middle.
deejY
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany44 Posts
February 16 2011 08:53 GMT
#156
and waited until this week to get his korea zerg invite for tsl ? :D

can’t wait to see the gracken stomping over NA and EU
ICA
Profile Joined January 2011
498 Posts
February 16 2011 09:00 GMT
#157
Did not read the entire thread, sorry.
My question: If he returns to Korea in order to participate in the GSL, he has to go through the entire qualification process, right?
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
February 16 2011 09:03 GMT
#158
On February 16 2011 18:00 ICA wrote:
Did not read the entire thread, sorry.
My question: If he returns to Korea in order to participate in the GSL, he has to go through the entire qualification process, right?


It would be a bit odd if any player could just "freeze" their status, take a year break and then just go "hey Im back, can I just have my spot again in the main code s tourney?".
RainWhisper
Profile Joined May 2009
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
February 16 2011 09:04 GMT
#159
I am happy, and i am sad. this sucks really. =(
Hi can i get one McGracken please?
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
February 16 2011 09:05 GMT
#160
I think this is sort of sad, idra will dominate the western scene


That is not true at all, you give way too little credit to the western scene, last MLG Idra lost plenty of games and did not go far in the tournament.

He will undoubtly be one of the big favorites to win tournaments, but he wont simply go undefeated and steamroll everyone. Especially not at a EU event where competition is stiff.

He looked far happier being at MLG with his team, talking to them and just being himself than he does in Korea, at least just by looking at his face. When he plays in GSL he looks like someone killed his puppy dog. So i am sure the social aspect + chances at winning money = good reason to go back home for a while.
★ Top Gun ★
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#124
Spirit vs sOs
GgMaChine vs Percival
Serral vs MaxPax
RotterdaM375
TKL 90
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 375
XaKoH 111
TKL 90
ProTech77
RushiSC 45
BRAT_OK 35
MindelVK 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34986
Calm 7954
firebathero 1312
Shuttle 1007
Mini 482
Tasteless 222
Larva 199
Artosis 197
Rush 102
Rock 13
Dota 2
Gorgc7255
qojqva2217
420jenkins203
canceldota9
Counter-Strike
fl0m3727
Other Games
FrodaN1715
B2W.Neo902
hiko882
ToD129
uThermal107
Liquid`VortiX97
QueenE62
Trikslyr48
Mew2King36
UpATreeSC17
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 37
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4008
• masondota2618
League of Legends
• Jankos1565
• TFBlade1009
Other Games
• Shiphtur158
Upcoming Events
OSC
6h 18m
Replay Cast
7h 48m
Afreeca Starleague
11h 48m
RSL Revival
16h 48m
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
18h 48m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 11h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 19h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-30
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W5
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.