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Fym
Profile Joined October 2009
United Kingdom189 Posts
February 16 2011 09:55 GMT
#181
damn, gsl wont be the same
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Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
February 16 2011 09:55 GMT
#182
Very good post from John.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
February 16 2011 09:55 GMT
#183
Damn, I was hoping to see him go far because of his group stage lineup (Clide, Zenio, and....... someone remind me).

Oh well... he will remain forever in my mind as one of the top three zergs in the world.

Respect.
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 16 2011 09:56 GMT
#184
Im pretty sure idra took one look at his bracket and was like out in ro16 again? fuck that shit im going home.
White-Ra fighting!
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
February 16 2011 09:57 GMT
#185
It was byun as the last guy in his group. it's a shame he won't play that group as he seems to have rivalries with clide/zenio lol.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
February 16 2011 10:05 GMT
#186
This is all a part of EG's master plan.

The pieces are slowly falling into place now.

I'm starting to think EG actually is a giant corporation of secret underground evil geniuses plotting to dominate and "westernize" the Korean-esque Starcraft Esports scene.

SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
February 16 2011 10:09 GMT
#187
I wonder what the impact on the gsl will be. I mean, with Idra leaving the gsl loses like 50% of the reasons why most foreigners watched the last seasions. If Ret, Huk and Haypro cant make in into code S, it will be a tough time for GOM in terms of non korean viewership.
South korea realy needs more small/medium sized tournaments. The "only one, but huge tournament"-situation wont work for long.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
February 16 2011 10:09 GMT
#188
hmm dont like :$

whats all the secrecy with annoucning annoucments etc. :§
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okrane
Profile Joined April 2010
France265 Posts
February 16 2011 10:16 GMT
#189
Bad PR move in my book... I think Idra had a great number of people who cheered and respected him simply because he was a foreigner representing the rest of us in Korea, playing with the big boys. And personally I enjoyed the GSL much more than I have any other foreign tournament, because of their format, consistency, availability of VODs and the quality of games which seemed to me way above what I've seen in MLG and other tourneys.

So I feel that Idra will lose some of the spotlight he currently is in.

But then again, if playing in the US will grant him more money, coupled with the fact that he is back home and not among strangers I can see why he made that decision.
Really disappointed with Starcraft II Zerg! :(
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 16 2011 10:18 GMT
#190
On February 16 2011 19:09 Grummler wrote:
I wonder what the impact on the gsl will be. I mean, with Idra leaving the gsl loses like 50% of the reasons why most foreigners watched the last seasions. If Ret, Huk and Haypro cant make in into code S, it will be a tough time for GOM in terms of non korean viewership.
South korea realy needs more small/medium sized tournaments. The "only one, but huge tournament"-situation wont work for long.



I dunno about other people, but the GSTL was the most entertaining starcraft 2 i have ever watched and that had exactly 0 foreigners. Jinro is the fucking man but i dont really care for IdrA one way or the other.
White-Ra fighting!
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
February 16 2011 10:19 GMT
#191
I dunno if i can stand the commentary of anyone other than tastosis.

So freaking epic haha.
ahbon
Profile Joined October 2010
France325 Posts
February 16 2011 10:21 GMT
#192
too afraid of his group
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
February 16 2011 10:22 GMT
#193
Sucks for the foreign scene in korea, losing 1 of only 2 code S players but good decision financially speaking. Idra should be able to make much more money here, not to mention being able to practice with his teammates and live in an english speaking environment again.
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
explicit
Profile Joined August 2010
52 Posts
February 16 2011 10:23 GMT
#194
On February 16 2011 18:05 Tyree wrote:
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I think this is sort of sad, idra will dominate the western scene


That is not true at all, you give way too little credit to the western scene, last MLG Idra lost plenty of games and did not go far in the tournament.

He will undoubtly be one of the big favorites to win tournaments, but he wont simply go undefeated and steamroll everyone. Especially not at a EU event where competition is stiff.

He looked far happier being at MLG with his team, talking to them and just being himself than he does in Korea, at least just by looking at his face. When he plays in GSL he looks like someone killed his puppy dog. So i am sure the social aspect + chances at winning money = good reason to go back home for a while.


I'll just go out on a limb and assume the last MLG was several patches ago, and i presume he lost matches primarily against stuff like 5 rax reaper. Having seen QXC win online tournaments with 0 losses and then get 3-0'ed by idra, demuslim in IEM europe finals, recent dimaga vs namaa matches etc - i stand by my statment, GSL is miles ahead of anything the other scenes have to offer (except now that idra returns).
MOMOPEWPEW
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 10:26:54
February 16 2011 10:26 GMT
#195
he could atleast have played gsl march :/
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
February 16 2011 10:35 GMT
#196
Thank god, get the foreigner talent back into the foreigner tournaments and spread esports in the West. GSL is far too restrictive to ever do that.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 16 2011 10:37 GMT
#197
On February 16 2011 18:56 m3rciless wrote:
Im pretty sure idra took one look at his bracket and was like out in ro16 again? fuck that shit im going home.


Nope. He decided beforehand he was leaving.

That's why he picked Clide for group B, to fuck him over in the Ro16 for some epic trolling.

The fact clide picked Zenio made it 5x better.

Idra - "MVP / MC vs Zenio/Clide, HAVE FUN KOREAN BROS, IM OUT OF HERE."
Get.Midikem
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden312 Posts
February 16 2011 10:38 GMT
#198
Why aint he playing gsl march and then moving after that! TT
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
February 16 2011 10:38 GMT
#199
On February 16 2011 19:18 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 19:09 Grummler wrote:
I wonder what the impact on the gsl will be. I mean, with Idra leaving the gsl loses like 50% of the reasons why most foreigners watched the last seasions. If Ret, Huk and Haypro cant make in into code S, it will be a tough time for GOM in terms of non korean viewership.
South korea realy needs more small/medium sized tournaments. The "only one, but huge tournament"-situation wont work for long.



I dunno about other people, but the GSTL was the most entertaining starcraft 2 i have ever watched and that had exactly 0 foreigners. Jinro is the fucking man but i dont really care for IdrA one way or the other.


Thats why i said "gsl" and not "gstl".
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
February 16 2011 10:40 GMT
#200
GSL is free money for him! Even if he loses in the first round he gets like 1500$. Why not leave after that.
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