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MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
February 07 2011 21:37 GMT
#21
A lot of good players use grid, so there's probably not a reason to change, but if you really want to change, I suggest just playing a dozen or so games (maybe custom games, even against AI), where you don't worry about playing well, just try to play slowly and do 100% of these with hotkeys and don't make mistakes, that's all it will take and you'll get used to it pretty quickly.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
zhouzhou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-07 21:46:11
February 07 2011 21:45 GMT
#22
Funny, I started out with standard and switched to grid, mainly because standard (mostly) carries over from BW.

The grid setup makes more sense ergonomically, and it's a hell of a lot easier to do 1t2t3t4t than it is to do 1a2a3a4a.

You're never gonna 'feel' right after changing your hotkey setup. Usually takes about a week or 2 depending on how much you play to fully fit into the new setup. + I play random, so using grid makes memorizing hotkeys much easier.

I have f2-f8 setup, but rarely ever use it. I can use 6-0 if needed, but rarely ever needed. At most I only need 1-8.

Ring finger on Q, and keep the rest spread out to hit what I need. You'll find that with grid you need to hit the Q key A LOT, and it's not to QQ about imbalance ;P


*TLO uses grid, who is like the best random player in the world.
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
February 07 2011 21:49 GMT
#23
whoever played BW before definitely used standard
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
BGrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany229 Posts
February 07 2011 21:57 GMT
#24
I have the feeling that grid is much daster than standard, simply because I feel I don't have to move my fingers that much. Of course customizing them would make it even better
WrathOfAiur
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany243 Posts
February 07 2011 21:58 GMT
#25
On February 08 2011 06:17 A1m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2011 20:06 WrathOfAiur wrote:
I think grid hotkeys are far superior to the standard ones. and now that you can customize them, it's even better.

I basically use the standard grid hotkeys but changed attack-move back to 'a' and set the location hotkeys to F2-F6.

so I use F1-F6 ( mostly just F2 and F3 ) and 1-7. 6 and 7 are robo and stargate.

grid is just so much more effective.


how do you bind attackmove back t A without unbind building structures on A. (Dont tell me I should use custom keys and set all of them to gridbased keys ^^)


That's exactly what I did

I just used custom and remapped every single key to what it is in the grid but with said exceptions.
Crake_
Profile Joined March 2011
United States74 Posts
March 08 2011 03:40 GMT
#26
I switched from standard to grid when I was playing terran. I'm now playing zerg, and I love it. I hotkey hatch 4, queens 567, lings 1 banes 2 mutas 3 (as an example).

My attack, 1t2q3qw (attack move lings, move banelings and magic box mutas) is a very comfortable sequence to fire off quickly. 4q is really easy. and 55x66x77x for injecting is also really easy. Plus, when I switch back to terran (usually for 3v3 or 4v4s), I don't have to worry about forgetting things as much.
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