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Touch
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada475 Posts
February 05 2011 13:45 GMT
#61
On February 05 2011 20:22 Santi wrote:
Portraits unlucked by being getting wins in high leagues would be cool.
^Yeah. No reason player in Platium should get equal achievement status as someone in Masters. I know it doesn't really matter, but fuck off, I want nice exclusive portraits
Sieg
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
February 05 2011 13:46 GMT
#62
I'm going for the dark voice, tell me THAT'S not going to scare you if you ladder against me.
You recognise me because of my signature!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44320 Posts
February 05 2011 13:48 GMT
#63
On February 05 2011 22:46 Munk-E wrote:
I'm going for the dark voice, tell me THAT'S not going to scare you if you ladder against me.


It's definitely intimidating at this point in time, but I've played with (and against) a handful of people who already have it, so hurry up!

In a year or so, everyone will have it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LeCastor
Profile Joined July 2010
France234 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 13:56:21
February 05 2011 13:48 GMT
#64
On February 05 2011 20:25 Bosu wrote:
I think 1500 was a better number for the best portrait, but really who cares. It's fine.


Don't forget that 1vs1 and team games were merged to get those portrait in wc3, that's why the number is higher. So you can't compare to the 1000 from sc2

I have to admit that farming wins was much much harder in wc3.

In sc2 if you really want easy portrait, just get demoted to bronze and cheese/all-in every single game while playing random.

So in final, i think that wc3 portraits were more prestigious.

insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
February 05 2011 13:54 GMT
#65
I actually like some of the easily obtainable portraits better than the high end ones, Reaper, Sentry or Panda Marine are some of the coolest imo.
I also agree that having portraits for winning a certain amount of games in diamond or masters would be pretty rad.
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
RainWhisper
Profile Joined May 2009
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
February 05 2011 13:59 GMT
#66
Totally agree with OP, ive been bitching bout this since the start. I used to have something to strive for, now its like, meh.
Hi can i get one McGracken please?
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
February 05 2011 14:00 GMT
#67
On February 05 2011 22:37 SetStndbySmn wrote:
Generally I just use portraits I like; for instance I was using orlan over colossus until I got carrier.

My suggestion for prestigious portraits would be to add brand new portraits for achieving x amount of wins against master league opponents. Personally I would like to see brood war portraits with animations for this accomplishment.

As a protoss player in both games Id really like to sport one of these:

[image loading] [image loading] [image loading]


Broodwar portraits would be badass.
Drone then Own
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
February 05 2011 14:02 GMT
#68
On February 05 2011 22:54 insaneMicro wrote:
I actually like some of the easily obtainable portraits better than the high end ones, Reaper, Sentry or Panda Marine are some of the coolest imo.
I also agree that having portraits for winning a certain amount of games in diamond or masters would be pretty rad.

Ive been using the Adjutant icon since like the 2nd day of release
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Protein
Profile Joined August 2010
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 14:45:57
February 05 2011 14:34 GMT
#69
On February 05 2011 22:43 Tyree wrote:
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Wow chill. I'd have to guess you're the one suffering from a low self-esteem, given how quickly you are irritated.


I am not irritated, i dont know how you got that out of my posts, if anyone comes across as angry its you:


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And seriously read my fucking post. I never said portraits were representative of skill. Stop putting words in my mouth. Also, I don't obsess over modeling myself to be like HuK and Idra. If you want them to be your role models, fine, but I like having my hard-to-get portraits.


No they arent my role models, i am using those 2 because they seem to be the most famous foreign progamers out there, neither care about portraits.


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Next we'll be voting for the abolishment of all the higher leagues because the bronze players can't reach that
?

Point to me, one person in this thread who even suggested that?

If you are in a higher league than someone else you are already "better than them", i said this before and that should be all the prestige you want

I am not going to argue with you anymore since you seem hell bent on putting words in my and everyone elses mouth while telling us to "chill" and stop our "fanboy dreams" of Idra and Huk.


Blizzard has done alot of different things for SC2 compared to WC3, one of them being how you acquire icons, nobody has complained about this from absolute worst players to the absolute best (do i even dare mention 1 progamer here or will you tell me they are my "heroes?" or that i am "raging"?).

If you think the War3 system was better than that is fine, but considering that nobody has complained about this yet and how many things Blizzard need to do (new maps, balance patches, bug patches, 2 new expansions, new Bnet 2.0 features etc) i doubt they have the time or ressources to change things to how you would like them.


You're right that I'm a little irritated that people like you don't read my post. They choose instead to derail it and read the parts they would like to read. Tell me "If you are in a higher league than someone else then you are clearly a better player, is that not enough? Denying that bronze player the ability to get X portrait makes you feel better about yourself? Really?" doesn't show irritation and aggressiveness in your writing when I was simply stating that I found that the length of time it took to get the higher portraits in warcraft 3 made them rare and thus more prestigious than the ones in SC2. I never said that it represented skill.

I suppose that your little tirade "Look at the pro players who actually get paid to play this game, Idra has a Hydra icon, and HuK uses the default ones, what a bunch of scrubs right!? These guys suck!!! Hydra icon? What were you thinking of Grack? You suck! And Huk he is such a noob he dosent even know you can change your icon! LLOLOL" isn't aggressive either? Let me hammer the point in: I NEVER said Portraits were representative of skill.

This thread has now been derailed completely so that members of this community call other entire communities elitist and inferior to our own. Judging from your first post, you didn't even take the time to read my OP and instead to go around inferring that I had a low self-esteem which was why I didn't like the system. You are the one putting words in my mouth when I was simply stating an opinion and asking if others found that perhaps an increase in the threshold of needed wins would make the portraits rare and thus more prestigious. Please indicate where I put words in others' people's mouths? Did you not use HuK and Idra as an example of why portraits weren't important? My exaggeration of you admiring them is not putting words in your mouth. You said it. I suggest you look up what the expression means since you are guilty of it. Besides that, I have simply defended myself and pointed out that you were responding to an assertion I never made.

As for the comment regarding abolishing the higher leagues, it was simply stated because you seem to be scared of any indicator that would separate a hardcore gamer from a casual gamer, thus creating "elitism" in the game. Higher leagues is one of these factors, just as higher portraits would be (not that I'm suggesting that portraits be added for higher leagues. I never did and I never will.)

Also you seem to have selective reading. Many people agree that making it require more play would make the portraits more interesting. Read the posts instead of rushing to your own.
dsxrflol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
42 Posts
February 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#70
i dont associate any level of play with those unlockable pictures

those achievement systems invented by blizzard really piss me off, they just try to convince people to play retarded amounts of time to gain stuff which means basically shit

of course everyone can decide by himself how much time he wants to play and has a different opinion on this topic but that is my point of view
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
February 05 2011 14:47 GMT
#71
On February 05 2011 23:36 dsxrflol wrote:
i dont associate any level of play with those unlockable pictures

those achievement systems invented by blizzard really piss me off, they just try to convince people to play retarded amounts of time to gain stuff which means basically shit

of course everyone can decide by himself how much time he wants to play and has a different opinion on this topic but that is my point of view


Couldn't disagree more.

Bad players also need an incentive to continue playing, and if icons provide that then it's perfect. I mean, let's say you are stuck in Bronze for 200 games because you are new to RTS, at the very least they get a nice icon for their effort...nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

In fact, I think icons are the perfect "reward" for mass-gaming, while ladder-ranks should resemble true skill. If anything, then the bonus-pool is retarded because it also rewards mass-gaming.

Therefore I agree, Blizz should think about more cooler icons/etc. to gain through mass-gaming. While leaving ladder alone (reducing bonus pool etc.)
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
dogbreath48
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada23 Posts
February 05 2011 14:52 GMT
#72
On February 05 2011 20:57 Babaganoush wrote:
[image loading]

The only portrait you need.

But honestly, I really don't care about any of the portraits "glamor". It's just a picture. What should be shown off is skill, not the thing you see during the loading screen.



hell ya
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3397 Posts
February 05 2011 14:57 GMT
#73
What %age of players have Dark Voice? ^^
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Tivo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States121 Posts
February 05 2011 15:00 GMT
#74
On February 05 2011 23:02 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 22:54 insaneMicro wrote:
I actually like some of the easily obtainable portraits better than the high end ones, Reaper, Sentry or Panda Marine are some of the coolest imo.
I also agree that having portraits for winning a certain amount of games in diamond or masters would be pretty rad.

Ive been using the Adjutant icon since like the 2nd day of release

Me too. It probably throws people off, since I've since switched to protoss.
Coraz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 16:05:11
February 05 2011 16:04 GMT
#75
All these years and I'm still a probe =\

I think i left my sc avatar on the generic one because I never look at it
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
February 05 2011 16:41 GMT
#76
On February 05 2011 22:18 Tyree wrote:
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And one more thing. What's wrong with elitism in games? Sure, the attitude is shitty but I don't see why people who play more and have achieved a higher skill can't have a better look...


You just answered your own question but head over to WoW forums/Arena Junkies

Is that what you want? If you are in a higher league than someone else then you are clearly a better player, is that not enough? Denying that bronze player the ability to get X portrait makes you feel better about yourself? Really?


So a master player to getting a portrait which you'll never get makes you feel bad about yourself? Really?

On February 05 2011 22:18 Tyree wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Look at the pro players who actually get paid to play this game, Idra has a Hydra icon, and HuK uses the default ones, what a bunch of scrubs right!? These guys suck!!! Hydra icon? What were you thinking of Grack? You suck! And Huk he is such a noob he dosent even know you can change your icon! LLOLOL

Ok enough

It is a strange phenomenon how much it seems to annoy some players that a "lesser" player has the same picture icon in the same game they play. It reeks of the WoW mentality that has made that entire community a cesspool.

If far better players than anyone in this topic dont care about icons, then why do you care so much?


It's a strange phenomenon how much it seems to annoy some players that a "better" player has a different icon available, for beating harder opponents. It reeks of the WoW mentality that has made that entire community a cesspool.
If many players throughout every skilllevel dont care about icons, then why do you care so much?


You see - this whole "you care - you're an elitist" argument is flawed, because it can be turned around and makes equal sense. You seem to care as much as they do but your point is that they shouldnt care.
Some want to be the special snowflake, because they want to shine. The others want to be part of the masses so they dont look bad. It's the same principle - just different angles.

Btw - I personally don't care - I still use my starting portrait

But I'm really against different portraits in different leagues. That would lead to good players go portrait hunting in those lower leagues ("Oh I still need my 500 bronze league wins for portrait X").
And what happens when 1 player, who had 1000wins in diamond, manages to get masterleague. Do those 1000wins transfer over, or does he has to get 1000 wins while in masterleague? If it's the former I dont really see the point in the system ("Farm 1000wins in bronze, get promoted to master") and if it's the latter I see the amount of allins/cheese grow, because it's the safest way to get into master.

And Protein, since I didnt play much WC3 wasnt it the players fault for constantly restarting their accounts? The playerbase thought those 50-0 accounts were more prestigeous than a portrait?
Would a normal player who just plays one account need that much more time to get a portrait in WC3 compared to SC2? If not - I dont see the whole point. It's a playermade issue :/
lotny
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland154 Posts
February 05 2011 16:43 GMT
#77
I'd be glad if they brought back the mule portrait. I really miss it.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
February 05 2011 16:47 GMT
#78
The entire point of portraits is for it to be achievable by anyone as long as they devote their time to it. If you want a reward for being in masters or whatever, you're reward is the masters league icon. Portraits are merely a novelty and are designed to look cool, not to be prestigious. That's what ranking is for.
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
February 05 2011 16:48 GMT
#79
On February 05 2011 20:22 Santi wrote:
Portraits unlucked by being getting wins in high leagues would be cool.


I think the same.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
February 05 2011 16:52 GMT
#80
I miss the portraits being animated, it was in wc3, why take it out in sc2 =(
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