EPTFinancial Stability Of Being A Progamer in NA - Page 7
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
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justle
United States174 Posts
On February 04 2011 04:35 forgotten0ne wrote: No. They make over that. At least Husky does. Do the math. $1.50/1k views. At least 200k views a day. $300/day x 365 = $109,500/yr Where are you getting $1.50/1k views? And 200k views a day? Even if these numbers are accurate, which I doubt they are, you would still have to figure in taxes, which would be over 1/3 of your final figure. I am positive your numbers are inflated, though, especially on daily views. Edit: Also, the hits on their videos are higher than G4's prime time ratings, so they deserve to be paid a lot more than $60k/year if they're even getting close to that. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
I wonder how much money Husky or HD would be willing to give IdrA for a pack of his 50 latest ladder games? | ||
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
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underdawg
United States399 Posts
I also got to think that sc fans are difficult to make ad revenue off. Like how this site had to say please consider not blocking our ads because a sc fan is much more likely to know how to do that stuff than a fan of say...football. If husky makes more than the pro gamers he so expertly analyzes that is truly a shame. Good for him though I guess. | ||
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Inside.Out
Canada569 Posts
and its not even like coaching is wasting time, because youre gonna be playing with guys that are serious enough about this to pay money, so generally that means theyre pretty good. | ||
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emecee
United States222 Posts
On February 04 2011 04:35 forgotten0ne wrote: No. They make over that. At least Husky does. Do the math. $1.50/1k views. At least 200k views a day. $300/day x 365 = $109,500/yr wheres your source for those stats? | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
That might be on the high side, but if you do some research you can find about how much youtubers make. If Husky is making half that hes still living pretty damn good for some dude who just started commentating BW vods because he loved it. I am not a fan of his style, but I am very happy hes been so successful. The best way for a progamer to make money is to do well in tournaments and capitalize off that to charge high amounts for lessons. Or be very good and get a team to provide a good salary. There is not much job security as a pro gamer, but as long as somebody is sponsored and getting a salary they should be living comfortably. Maybe never rich, but whatever they should be doing their dream job. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
I was doing a bit of thinking about Idra's streaming, and I think he makes some really decent money doing it. He gets around 5000 peak viewers on his 2 hour nightly commentary stream. Let's say 2500 of them have on adblocker. I pulled the number out of my ass but I think it's fairly conservative. If he makes 1 cent per adview, again something I think is conservative, and he gets 2500 people to each watch 10 ads over the course of a 2 hour viewing, he's making $250 dollars a day, or $125 dollars an hour. Did I go completely wrong somewhere? Progamers might not be rich, but...man it sure does pay to be Idra. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On February 04 2011 15:08 SimDawg wrote: Tell me what people think about my completely ignorant calculations... I was doing a bit of thinking about Idra's streaming, and I think he makes some really decent money doing it. He gets around 5000 peak viewers on his 2 hour nightly commentary stream. Let's say 2500 of them have on adblocker. I pulled the number out of my ass but I think it's fairly conservative. If he makes 1 cent per adview, again something I think is conservative, and he gets 2500 people to each watch 10 ads over the course of a 2 hour viewing, he's making $250 dollars a day, or $125 dollars an hour. Did I go completely wrong somewhere? Progamers might not be rich, but...man it sure does pay to be Idra. You think they pay 1c per adview is conservative? Sounds outrageously high to me. People would stream 16 hours a day if that were the case | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On February 03 2011 09:14 hifriend wrote: E-sports are largely socially accepted in some european countries not to mention the way it was in korea a few years back. I think you're focusing too much on current conditions in the US and even then fail to notice how everything's been moving forward. Notice how OSL was sponsored by a fucking airline company and GSL having sony ericsson for their main sponsor? It's besides the point though, sponsors will obviously try to reach a specific demographic namely gamers in this case and I don't see why that would be a hinderance? More people play video games, e-sports keeps growing, more gaming related products get purchased, more gaming companies stand to make more profit off of advertisement/sponsorships. Why do you think big companies like razer and steelseries sprung up fairly recently? Sponsorships even now aren't some useless basement-ran software websites either but HUGE corporations like SK - Acer MYM - puma, WD, razer Intel stepping in as the main sponsor in GSL recently. Etc, etc. And like some other guy said it sort of goes without saying that only the top will be able to sustain a decent living by playing video games/sports without doing some sort of related work purely for profit. In don't know how it is where you live but in sweden the old stereotypical fat/greasy/generally disgusting nerd image washed off ages ago. Most people play video games in some shape or form, let's look at some swedish gaming superheroes. + Show Spoiler + Heaton ![[image loading]](http://images2.ggl.com/images/heaton2.jpg) Jinro ![[image loading]](http://www.gosugamers.net/general/images/news/hl_jinro-240-3.jpg) Madfrog ![[image loading]](http://www.wcreplays.com/events/wcg04/pictures/wcg025.jpg) No homo but these are some pretty good looking dudes. lets look at American players ![[image loading]](http://img.youtube.com/vi/O2DV8ISfcI8/0.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.gotfrag.com/files/upload/galleryimage_18068_f.jpg) and this thread is about esports in the US, which is mainly dominated by WOW and console games, both of which dont attract "good looking dudes" :D Esports in germany/Sweden is pretty awesome tbh. | ||
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
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SlyinZ
France199 Posts
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lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
On February 05 2011 05:43 SlyinZ wrote: http://www.myu2b.com/ i just leave this here. If this website is correct then husky make alot of money more then double of hd's. totalbiscuit make about same as husky. | ||
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War Horse
United States247 Posts
On February 02 2011 06:43 plagiarisedwords wrote: Well I think of a lot of professional sports which aren't really "popular" are not that different to starcraft even today. e.g. Athletics, Swimming. Basically, because people dont care about them like football or basketball, there is no inherent money in Athletics or Swimming. Some countries pay their athletes well because they want gold medals in the Olympic but many don't. Hell, you probably cant even give lessons as easily as in SC2 because you have to be in person and not that many people bother to pay for personal coaching in swimming or athletics. Even for popular sports, you will struggle to be good enough to earn enough to equal a 9-5. Even in a massively popular sport like baseball or the NFL as late as 40 years ago, the vast majority of players worked regular jobs during the offseason. It was only with the advent of free agency in both sports that really allowed the astronomical salaries you see today (since they are worth that much to the team owners.) | ||
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War Horse
United States247 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On February 05 2011 03:52 forgotten0ne wrote: Research... and Husky just flat out telling me. Calling this out as bullshit, since we are NDAed on our earnings and I work for the same company Husky does. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On February 05 2011 05:43 SlyinZ wrote: http://www.myu2b.com/ i just leave this here. Wow that can't be right. Daily gross: $582. All I can say is respect for capitalizing on that puppy... vs. Artosistv: $117 vs. Day9tv: $60.4 | ||
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