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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
February 02 2011 08:09 GMT
#61
On February 02 2011 16:50 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 16:42 Ribbon wrote:
On February 02 2011 15:34 Grettin wrote:
On February 02 2011 14:59 Ribbon wrote:
On February 01 2011 14:10 JunkkaGom wrote:
I just don't see why people make so much fuss about the prize pool. Sure, the money for 1st place is half the open season and runner up recieved 2/3 of the money in open season. BUT the prize pool for Ro16~32 has gone up considerably. Also Code S players get paid salary regardless of their result. We do not cut prize pool because of our budget, as all prize money comes from sponsors.
Overall if you combine Code A and Code S the total prize pool is pretty much the same as Open seasons.


Is the salary entirely separate from the prize pool? I think that's the source of the confusion. Jinro and Idra won't win any prize money in the month of February (since they're not in the GSTL). Are they getting paid a salary just for being Code S, above and beyond winnings from tournaments?


I dont see why they would get paid a salary for just being a code s.


John just said they did, which kind of implies they do.


Oh my bad. Should've read the reply more carefully, well anyhow if they wouldn't get any salary, i don't see why they should get.

Again, my bad!


Their salary is basically the prize pool for just being a ro32 contestant. And just for being a ro32 contestant is equal prize winnings as the winner of code A.

The bot of code A also get a tiny bit of winnings too. Probably to compensate one for appearing on TV.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 08:11:58
February 02 2011 08:11 GMT
#62
On February 01 2011 14:35 TexSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 14:10 JunkkaGom wrote:
I just don't see why people make so much fuss about the prize pool. Sure, the money for 1st place is half the open season and runner up recieved 2/3 of the money in open season. BUT the prize pool for Ro16~32 has gone up considerably. Also Code S players get paid salary regardless of their result. We do not cut prize pool because of our budget, as all prize money comes from sponsors.
Overall if you combine Code A and Code S the total prize pool is pretty much the same as Open seasons.


He is right. Here are the totals:
GSL1: $170,000 (about ₩199 600 000)
GSL2: ₩199 600 000
GSL3: ₩199 600 000
GSL Jan Code A+S: ₩144 900 000
GSL Jan Code A+S+GSTL: ₩159900000 (80.1% of GSL1 through 3)

So I guess it is decreased a bit. In January, sponsors allowed for 80% of the prize money as there was in GSL 1 through 3. However, I think that means the future of the GSL is pretty strong, imho.



Still this is the prize money only, as Junkka said code s player all recieve a salary that is not included in the prize money, as it would be silly to say that the losing 0-3 in the first round of the gsl won you 2k
32 players, and about 50m won to go around, makes a decent salay... so I'm assuming.


Besides, it sounded nice, and I get why they did it, but having the champ take home half the entire prize pool is horrible if you want a sustained group of professionals. It wasn't loud, but I've read interviews of a few dif team managers and players concers on the prize distributions in the opens.
yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
February 02 2011 08:11 GMT
#63
What i'm wondering about is the changing of players in each league. I mean, the code S people will be forever the same people playing in it as long as they pass the 1st group stage. And even the down and up stage there is still much more chance to advance to code S.

Will it be the same players everything
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
February 02 2011 08:18 GMT
#64
On February 02 2011 17:11 yrag89 wrote:
What i'm wondering about is the changing of players in each league. I mean, the code S people will be forever the same people playing in it as long as they pass the 1st group stage. And even the down and up stage there is still much more chance to advance to code S.

Will it be the same players everything


this is kinda of completely off topic, but at the same time...

half of code S has is sent to the updown matchs every gsl... you have 8 new code people getting a shot, so somewhere between 0-8 new code players each turny.

Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
February 02 2011 08:28 GMT
#65
On February 02 2011 17:09 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 16:50 Grettin wrote:
On February 02 2011 16:42 Ribbon wrote:
On February 02 2011 15:34 Grettin wrote:
On February 02 2011 14:59 Ribbon wrote:
On February 01 2011 14:10 JunkkaGom wrote:
I just don't see why people make so much fuss about the prize pool. Sure, the money for 1st place is half the open season and runner up recieved 2/3 of the money in open season. BUT the prize pool for Ro16~32 has gone up considerably. Also Code S players get paid salary regardless of their result. We do not cut prize pool because of our budget, as all prize money comes from sponsors.
Overall if you combine Code A and Code S the total prize pool is pretty much the same as Open seasons.


Is the salary entirely separate from the prize pool? I think that's the source of the confusion. Jinro and Idra won't win any prize money in the month of February (since they're not in the GSTL). Are they getting paid a salary just for being Code S, above and beyond winnings from tournaments?


I dont see why they would get paid a salary for just being a code s.


John just said they did, which kind of implies they do.


Oh my bad. Should've read the reply more carefully, well anyhow if they wouldn't get any salary, i don't see why they should get.

Again, my bad!


Their salary is basically the prize pool for just being a ro32 contestant. And just for being a ro32 contestant is equal prize winnings as the winner of code A.

The bot of code A also get a tiny bit of winnings too. Probably to compensate one for appearing on TV.


Is that actually true? There are on 5 GSLs a year, right? What if you're on FOX or Liquid or EG? Do you get a salary so you can eat during a team league?

I was under the impression that players had a salary entirely separate from any prize pools.
Quixxotik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States54 Posts
February 02 2011 08:35 GMT
#66
On February 02 2011 15:34 Cha1R wrote:
Tastosis got a big raise.


I don't know why, but this made me lol so hard.

Also it's worth noting in the GSL vs OSL article someone posted, that Jinro noted that thousands of people were in attendance for his games, which were semi finals, not even finals. Also the online viewership. 150k viewers who paid ws 8k viewers for free videos. The GSL is not weakening at all; the lowered prizes are simply because the amount of tournaments has increased. The first three Opens were over more than 3 months, and now there will be a tournament a month, with Code S and Code A playing concurrently. Factor in what I believe to be a bumping of prize money for Ro16 exits etc, and it all makes sense.
Oxb
Profile Joined August 2010
199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 08:42:46
February 02 2011 08:36 GMT
#67
On February 02 2011 17:28 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 17:09 RaiKageRyu wrote:
On February 02 2011 16:50 Grettin wrote:
On February 02 2011 16:42 Ribbon wrote:
On February 02 2011 15:34 Grettin wrote:
On February 02 2011 14:59 Ribbon wrote:
On February 01 2011 14:10 JunkkaGom wrote:
I just don't see why people make so much fuss about the prize pool. Sure, the money for 1st place is half the open season and runner up recieved 2/3 of the money in open season. BUT the prize pool for Ro16~32 has gone up considerably. Also Code S players get paid salary regardless of their result. We do not cut prize pool because of our budget, as all prize money comes from sponsors.
Overall if you combine Code A and Code S the total prize pool is pretty much the same as Open seasons.


Is the salary entirely separate from the prize pool? I think that's the source of the confusion. Jinro and Idra won't win any prize money in the month of February (since they're not in the GSTL). Are they getting paid a salary just for being Code S, above and beyond winnings from tournaments?


I dont see why they would get paid a salary for just being a code s.


John just said they did, which kind of implies they do.


Oh my bad. Should've read the reply more carefully, well anyhow if they wouldn't get any salary, i don't see why they should get.

Again, my bad!


Their salary is basically the prize pool for just being a ro32 contestant. And just for being a ro32 contestant is equal prize winnings as the winner of code A.

The bot of code A also get a tiny bit of winnings too. Probably to compensate one for appearing on TV.


Is that actually true? There are on 5 GSLs a year, right? What if you're on FOX or Liquid or EG? Do you get a salary so you can eat during a team league?

I was under the impression that players had a salary entirely separate from any prize pools.



Players get a basic fixed salary for playing 8hours a day, 5days a week. Like a normal work job. This is payed by sponsors etc. Then there is prizepool which they get when winning tournaments. proffisional gaming/sports 101...
They can also get extra/bonus money for performing extremely well (like scoring a goal in champions league)
Why you think they are called proffesionals? If they'd have to live of prize pool why oh why would anyone join a teamhouse? (you have seen it right, relatively crowded, somebody watching if you play 8hours a day, shared bathroom/kitchen, shared bedroom etc..

Edit on topic:
Compared to the GSL open: GSL has to pay for CodeA winners, CodeS winners and holds more tournaments.
They receive money from at least: online viewers, live spectators and sponsorships
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