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Didn't it used to be $87,000 for first and $27,000~ for second? At the end of the last season of GSL the winner was given a check for 50,000,000 won (44774$) and 20,000,000 won ($18k~). While that's still a decent amount, 87k was fucking epic. Just wondering what is going on because the prizes are almost halved...
I'm guessing the GSL was supposed to be Blizzard's huge eSport investment but mostly for Korea; I didn't notice how badly it had "failed" (it's decent but I doubt it's profiting) until I saw how much more interest/bigger crowd there was in the OSL compared to the GSL (I never was a part of the BW eSport scene). Is this lowering of the prizepool an indication of that failure, or was it planned, or... something else? Now they're adding a team league or something with 8 teams, anyone know the prize for 1st/2nd on that?
Also, I thought there was supposed to be a GSL "every month." Now the next season of GSL will be ending in march and I assume the GSL after that will be ending in May; anyone know the timeline for the first 3 GSLs compared to what's projected. Is the TSL (is that the name?) going to be the "February GSL" and then another TSL will be the "April GSL"?
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They said in an interview or statement that the prize amount will gradually shrink as the GSL gets bigger and as the seasons go on. I actually think that's the wrong way to do things, but eh I'm not the manager of the whole thing.
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gsl open was 100mil won for the winner.
this is gsl code s and a
gomtv makes a ton of sales from subscriptions, advertisements and sponsorships.
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There are 7 GSL's over the year.
1 Super tournament which is the 64 player 87K "super" GSL.
They decreased the prize pool for the Code S GSL because you're only playing through a field of 32, not 64, and they increased the amount of tournaments at once.
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in February there is the GSL Team League. Plus, the march GSL actually starts half way through Feb.
As to the prize pool. I'm not 100% certain but i thought 87,000USD was only for the three OPEN seasons of GSL. (GSL OPEN Seasons1-3). the current GSL Code tournaments are not the same sort, so maybe that's why the prize pool is different
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On February 01 2011 12:53 zonic wrote:
gsl open was 100mil won for the winner.
this is gsl code s and a
gomtv makes a ton of sales from subscriptions, advertisements and sponsorships.
Yes but are they profiting? Are they getting enough $ from 10$ monthly subs to cover the cost of:
-staff
-rent for a huge venue
-rent for qualifying venue + computers + internet for multiday qualifiers EVERY month
-bandwidth
-prizepool
Obviously there's no way for any of us to answer that, but it's just something to think about. If they WERE profiting a lot, it would be logical to up the prizepool to 100,000,000 won for every tourney so in Korea it seems like THE eSport/sport/event worth watching (since they're already into BW).
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On February 01 2011 12:54 Logican wrote:
in February there is the GSL Team League. Plus, the march GSL actually starts half way through Feb.
As to the prize pool. I'm not 100% certain but i thought 87,000USD was only for the three OPEN seasons of GSL. (GSL OPEN Seasons1-3). the current GSL Code tournaments are not the same sort, so maybe that's why the prize pool is different
According to you and ch33psh33p that is indeed the reasoning, so thank you. I thought the Code S thing was just an evolution of the "Open" format; have they said if/when the Open format will return? I do prefer the Code S by a lot, it seems to be weeding out most of the worse players.
It's also made following certain players much more interesting.
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There's the gom team league going on for February, and the smaller prize pool is because they have 1 major tourney every month, as well as the code A tourney and stuff. There's no reason for gom to keep giving away $175,000 or whatever it was every month, players are fine with half that.
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The 100 million was used only for the GSL opens to draw as many possible players as they could. I don't think it was ever intended to be sustained at the number since there are no official "codes" you can be divided into.
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The January GSL was only a 32 player tournament (Code S) and the winner still got $50,000 USD
Open GSLs requiring qualifiers and an official Round of 64 will still have higher prize pools.
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Don't worry, there will still be one 64 player tournament featuring Code S and Code A in one big shibang in May? Or June? Will have the full 87k prizepool!
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The GSLs have always been 1 time a month, but actually slightly more than a month. So it may seem they're occuring every other month, but they're simply being "scooted" over since they actually take about 35 or so days. It's been "scooting" every since GSL1.
Also yes prize pool is smaller but what I read was that the first 3 pre-season GSLs were to have bigger prizepools (for attention?), and then decreased later on.
But yeah there are also more tournaments like the GSTL and stuff (doesn't pay much, roughly $10k to winner? I mean that's a lot but I thought it should be more since its a team league thing and should be "more important"). But yeah like someone said, now there is GSL S and A, and in S there's only 32 people instead of 64. So yeah the prize pool shrunk a bit even with Code A but there are a few more tournaments.
Edit: And yeah another reason for the decreased prize pool could likely be because since SC2 was new, they needed to give more money to the players since they probably wouldn't have sponsors yet; now that it's been 3 months, players should have had chances to find some sponsors here or there hopefully; if not they should soon.
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As someone already stated the reason the prize is lower is that there will be more seasons over this year.
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well, money can't buy people's devotion... Just because I host a hot dog eating tournament with $1 million dollar prize pool, it doesn't mean that it will translate into huge fanbase. Money can lure interest in the event but I doubt anybody will turn into a hotdog fanatic.
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On February 01 2011 12:57 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 12:53 zonic wrote:
gsl open was 100mil won for the winner.
this is gsl code s and a
gomtv makes a ton of sales from subscriptions, advertisements and sponsorships. Yes but are they profiting? Are they getting enough $ from 10$ monthly subs to cover the cost of: -staff -rent for a huge venue -rent for qualifying venue + computers + internet for multiday qualifiers EVERY month -bandwidth -prizepool Obviously there's no way for any of us to answer that, but it's just something to think about. If they WERE profiting a lot, it would be logical to up the prizepool to 100,000,000 won for every tourney so in Korea it seems like THE eSport/sport/event worth watching (since they're already into BW).
Isn't Blizzard paying the prizepool?
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pretty sure prize money is sponsorship money and most of the money gom makes is all from viewers
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The size of the tournament also affects it probably. Previously it was a 64 player tournament. Code S is 32 player albeit filled with better ones.
I think the rationale is that there are more tournaments so the prize is more spread out because probably it was to "top heavy" previously and only a few people will really enjoy the money.
Now, a lot more people can be champion which will mean better prize money distribution.
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GSL is still the league with the highest prize pool in the world right?
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instead of saying the GSL failed try to look into things before you make statements like that.
the reason the prize pool was bigger last year was because they only had time for 3 tournaments for the entire year. this year they are doing more things and thus have less funding. we've known this for well over a month.
they're spreading the money out, which personally im frikkin thankful for that. id much rather have MORE opportunities then fewer ones with big $ pool.
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The GSL Open Seasons were pretty much considered "Super Tournaments" that were planned on having larger prize pools. I think it is understandable that the first tournament would have such a huge prize pool since it is good for them to start things out on a bang.
However, it is simply not economical to have that large a prize pool at every tournament. According to their schedule: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors1/news/52018 ,
there will be plenty more tournaments throughout the year. 7 tournaments for Code S and A each. 1 Super Tournament. 1 Blizzard Cup. 1 World Championship. 6 Team League tournaments. That's pretty much 24 tournaments total all with prize pools. If they had an $87,000 prize pool for each of these tournaments, it would cost them a bit over $2 million a year. It's just not viable.
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