From what I have understood Iccup have been talking to the E-Sports quite a lot. At least that is what I have understood from WoC shows where they have discussed the situation.

setzer

United States3284 Posts

January 31 2011 10:28 GMT

#105

Testbug kind of reminds me of the BW map Fantasy. Looks great!

Gr33d

Germany423 Posts

January 31 2011 10:34 GMT

#106

Testbug looks awesome. Sure I don't know how the balance there will look like but just from the looks the designer did a wonderful work.

Schwopzi

Netherlands954 Posts

January 31 2011 11:28 GMT

#107

Just played a match on testbug, it's pretty nice. But just one thing. A couple of the geysers are located right on the edge of a cliff. So if you play terran and you build a refinery your scv can get stuck behind the refinery when it gets it's first barrel of gas, leaving you with no option but to either medvac it out or to give it a honorable death.
The geysers in question are the bottom geysers of the 5 o'clock gold & the base behind that

kazansky

Germany931 Posts

January 31 2011 11:37 GMT

#108

This is great. Finally, it begins...

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

January 31 2011 11:40 GMT

#109

On January 31 2011 20:28 Schwopzi wrote:
Just played a match on testbug, it's pretty nice. But just one thing. A couple of the geysers are located right on the edge of a cliff. So if you play terran and you build a refinery your scv can get stuck behind the refinery when it gets it's first barrel of gas, leaving you with no option but to either medvac it out or to give it a honorable death.
The geysers in question are the bottom geysers of the 5 o'clock gold & the base behind that

Maybe that's a balance feature

The two player map looks really interesting too. There's not really a map like that in the map pool at the moment, it would be interesting to see how games turn out.

ch4ppi

Germany802 Posts

January 31 2011 12:20 GMT

#110

[Artosis mode ] This is HUGE!!![/Artosis mode]

god Im so glad! I hope they also remove some maps (steppes, delta

)

Frankon

3054 Posts

January 31 2011 13:13 GMT

#111

On January 31 2011 17:13 RouaF wrote:
Adding custom maps is a great idea. But why not taking the maps that are going to be used in the GSL? I'm not sure everyone using different custom maps is a very good idea...

Cause i believe the plan is for ESL to test the waters with custom maps and ICCup maps are way more know in EU than the gsl ones. If this works out i bet we will have some ESL specific maps (hopefully designed by Iccup mapmaking team) eg. ESL Take'sCouch.

If you want to make a brand you dont use the ideas of competition. You want your own brand.
Imagine ESL guys talking to sponsors:
ESL:"We have a successful SC2 leagu and cups and we even have special custom maps for them"
Sponsor:"Thats nice but why that map has a writting "Made by Greetech for GSL use"?
ESL:"..."

Superouman

France2195 Posts

January 31 2011 13:22 GMT

#112

Thanks for pointing that. I fixed the problem at the gold expo. However, i didn't see any issue in the base behind the gold at 5 o'clock, but i put some blockers behind the gas in case if it not happens in every game.

ch4ppi

Germany802 Posts

January 31 2011 14:03 GMT

#113

The best thing about the ICCUP maps is that ESL could influence the balancing on a very direct way.

We've seen tons of changes already. Most of the time u tell an ICCUP guy "Hey there is an issue with this spot, tanks can.... blawblaw" and the mapmaker is most of the time fixing the issue within hours.
GSL maps are difficult to influence, also I believe it is good for the western community to have an own system and to be not THAT dependent on the korean community (which might be slower anyway due to the lower popularity)

Qzy

Denmark1121 Posts

January 31 2011 14:05 GMT

#114

I'm not too happy about it. I rather watch matches on maps i know :<.

But innovation and new maps that provides more balance is always good.

Two sides of the coin I guess =)

Nillinch

Poland147 Posts

January 31 2011 14:10 GMT

#115

Blizzard gonna kill this maps by puting their own ones but better (shakuras type) soon or later.

Sanguinarius

United States3427 Posts

January 31 2011 14:13 GMT

#116

I am really glad Testbug was chosen, I enjoy that map. Also nice to see new maps in the rotations.

MK4512

Canada938 Posts

January 31 2011 15:41 GMT

#117

Testbug looks amaaazing!

Props to ESL for putting in ICCUP maps, lets hope blizzard follows suit...

Leviance

Germany4079 Posts

January 31 2011 15:48 GMT

#118

This is such great news and should be supported in every way. It's not an easy decision with Blizzard always looking at your fingers to use maps that aren't from Blizzard in the biggest and best-known leagues and tourneys in Europe. Great move ESL!

Although I'm sceptical about the second map's balance, I'm not worried at all because if balance issues come up I'm 100% sure they will either replace the map or fix it.

Was Pawn Re chosen because they wanted a bigger and a smaller map?

th3rogue

Germany683 Posts

January 31 2011 16:06 GMT

#119

On February 01 2011 00:48 Leviance wrote:
This is such great news and should be supported in every way. It's not an easy decision with Blizzard always looking at your fingers to use maps that aren't from Blizzard in the biggest and best-known leagues and tourneys in Europe. Great move ESL!

Although I'm sceptical about the second map's balance, I'm not worried at all because if balance issues come up I'm 100% sure they will either replace the map or fix it.

Was Pawn Re chosen because they wanted a bigger and a smaller map?

Map of the Month tournament

On January 31 2011 23:05 Qzy wrote:
I'm not too happy about it. I rather watch matches on maps i know :<.

But innovation and new maps that provides more balance is always good.

Two sides of the coin I guess =)

Play the map and then you'll know it!