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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On January 31 2011 23:10 MrKozi wrote: Blizzard gonna kill this maps by puting their own ones but better (shakuras type) soon or later.  If Blizzard responds to ICCUP's success by making maps better than ICCUP's, don't we all win? Why the frown? | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
On February 01 2011 01:21 Ribbon wrote: If Blizzard responds to ICCUP's success by making maps better than ICCUP's, don't we all win? Why the frown? Exactly what I thought! The ICCup team is doing everything to make StarCraft 2 best playable, everything for the game, if their maps got surpassed by new Blizzard maps (which is unlikely :p) I'm sure they would be happy about it, not sad. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:05 G.s)NarutO wrote: Blizzard needs to put those maps into the Ladderpool, because otherwise no one will train them basically... which would suck. T.T These and the GSL maps ... but then where do they draw the line and which crappy maps get removed? I think someone over at Blizzard is still trying to find a way to make Steppes of War work ... | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:05 G.s)NarutO wrote: Blizzard needs to put those maps into the Ladderpool, because otherwise no one will train them basically... which would suck. T.T Trust me, very few pros (at least in NA) are using the ladder for practice anyways. Most have already switched to customs for practice. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:13 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Trust me, very few pros (at least in NA) are using the ladder for practice anyways. Most have already switched to customs for practice. Pros aren't the only people out there ;(. Guys like ESL/Craftcup do an awesome job for the non-pro players to get some competition. Ladder is an important part for them. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:13 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Trust me, very few pros (at least in NA) are using the ladder for practice anyways. Most have already switched to customs for practice. That seems kind of doubtful. I mean, even TSL3 is going to use old ladder maps, no? Of course you wouldn't just say this for no reason, but I just don't understand the motivation behind it. Unless they really strongly believe that there's going to be huge changes in the map pool soon. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:17 ParasitJonte wrote: That seems kind of doubtful. I mean, even TSL3 is going to use old ladder maps, no? Of course you wouldn't just say this for no reason, but I just don't understand the motivation behind it. Unless they really strongly believe that there's going to be huge changes in the map pool soon. There's been no mention of the maps for TSL3, only the TLOpens. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On January 31 2011 17:13 RouaF wrote: Adding custom maps is a great idea. But why not taking the maps that are going to be used in the GSL? I'm not sure everyone using different custom maps is a very good idea... Unfortunately, the world of mapmakers and tournament organizers aren't as cohesive and united as we would hope them to me. WCG and iCCup changes their map pool way slower compared to the KeSPA lineup for OSL, MSL, and Proleague. Eventually, certain maps will emerge to be so good that it is almost impossible not to use them for a tournament. Destination and Match Point come to mind. Right now, we are in the early stages of adopting custom maps for SC2, and the more maps we test and filter out, the better. Also, I think I heard from somewhere that Gisado from GOM initially checked out some of the iCCup maps but wasn't convinced that they were good enough to be used for the Korean games. Nevertheless, it's great to see the SC2 scene look more and more like the BW scene. Custom maps being adopted AND GSL adding a Proleague system? It's almost too good to be true. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:17 ParasitJonte wrote: That seems kind of doubtful. I mean, even TSL3 is going to use old ladder maps, no? Of course you wouldn't just say this for no reason, but I just don't understand the motivation behind it. Unless they really strongly believe that there's going to be huge changes in the map pool soon. No no I mean custom games, not custom maps. I'm saying most pros do not ladder anymore, the last Top 200 really shows that. On February 01 2011 02:19 eviltomahawk wrote: Unfortunately, the world of mapmakers and tournament organizers aren't as cohesive and united as we would hope them to me. WCG and iCCup changes their map pool way slower compared to the KeSPA lineup for OSL, MSL, and Proleague. Eventually, certain maps will emerge to be so good that it is almost impossible not to use them for a tournament. Destination and Match Point come to mind. Right now, we are in the early stages of adopting custom maps for SC2, and the more maps we test and filter out, the better. Also, I think I heard from somewhere that Gisado from GOM initially checked out some of the iCCup maps but wasn't convinced that they were good enough to be used for the Korean games. Nevertheless, it's great to see the SC2 scene look more and more like the BW scene. Custom maps being adopted AND GSL adding a Proleague system? It's almost too good to be true. Link? Source? Because I have never heard that before... | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:21 iCCup.Diamond wrote: No no I mean custom games, not custom maps. I'm saying most pros do not ladder anymore, the last Top 200 really shows that. Link? Source? Because I have never heard that before... Actually, I think I misunderstood my source since I was essentially trying to remember an obscure post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182734¤tpage=7#122 I guess he considered the maps, but obviously didn't end up using them. It's a shame too, since the iCCup maps are definitely strong contenders compared to the Korean maps. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 01 2011 02:36 eviltomahawk wrote: Actually, I think I misunderstood my source since I was essentially trying to remember an obscure post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182734¤tpage=7#122 I guess he considered the maps, but obviously didn't end up using them. It's a shame too, since the iCCup maps are definitely strong contenders compared to the Korean maps. Oh ok. If he searched for them on the Korean B.net, that would explain it, as the maps are not there 0.o! But soon they will be on the KOR server. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
i've never been around for the original bn ladder in sc:bw but wasn't it the same? maps weren't updated and were crap and then people started making better maps and players stopped playing ladder (+ hacks on ladder  | ||
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
But now that we have chat channels, it's no problem whatsoever to organize custom games for training. And for pros it's obviously least problematic since they mostly have training partners/team members. | ||
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Quixoticism
United States80 Posts
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On February 01 2011 04:48 Superouman wrote: Testbug is right now on the first page in the 1v1 section on Europe. You can find an opponent very quickly and not necessarily through a channel. Awesome to hear it's up that far already! <3 | ||
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Alexj
Ukraine440 Posts
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