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Dakk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden572 Posts
January 14 2011 20:02 GMT
#81
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you coukdäve reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.
I will not fear, Fear is the mindkiller. Fear is the little death.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
January 14 2011 20:04 GMT
#82
On January 15 2011 05:02 Dakk wrote:
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you coukdäve reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.


wow...just wow :D

nice troll
Do you really want chat rooms?
Dakk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden572 Posts
January 14 2011 20:09 GMT
#83
On January 15 2011 05:04 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 05:02 Dakk wrote:
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you could've reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.


wow...just wow :D

nice troll


?
I posted my opinion, it is my right.
Do not critizise it.
I will not fear, Fear is the mindkiller. Fear is the little death.
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
January 14 2011 20:09 GMT
#84
More reason to play on fancy graphics I guess.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
ChineseWife
Profile Joined August 2010
United States373 Posts
January 14 2011 20:10 GMT
#85
yeah im sure no one cares
Oops I made no units
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
January 14 2011 20:10 GMT
#86
On January 15 2011 04:28 Illva wrote:
they actually patched this in the beta. Its probably back from a new patch tho


IIRC the problem in the beta was on Kulas Ravine with trees in the corner dying. Sorry if this was actually fixed here too, but I don't remember hearing about it anyway.
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 14 2011 20:11 GMT
#87
I don't quite understand how the game is allowing you to see information you haven't seen. Why would the engine do this?
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
January 14 2011 20:11 GMT
#88
On January 15 2011 04:38 BlasiuS wrote:
ROFL

does anyone know if there are any doodads within starting creep distance on any other maps? I'll have to check the other ones when I'm able to play.

LT down, DQ up I guess.

I tried to see if there was something like that on Shakuras Plateu or Metalopolis and thought for a second that I could see it on Metalopolis (two empty spots had large cracks around minerals, the one with the zerg had barely any cracks), but it was just how the spawn locations actually looked with or without zerg on them.

Looking at the possible new GSL maps, 1 or 2 of them might have the same problem.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 20:13:27
January 14 2011 20:12 GMT
#89
On January 15 2011 05:04 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 05:02 Dakk wrote:
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you coukdäve reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.


wow...just wow :D

nice troll

The most annoying thing about the word "troll" is that people will use it in all the wrong ways if they have nothing actually useful to say, especially when they lose an argument (in which case they start calling the winning debater a troll).

Anyway, I guess I'm vetoing LT out of the map pool. I hated that map enough anyway. It's surprising that this bug went this far without being made public.
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
January 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#90
On January 15 2011 05:11 Numy wrote:
I don't quite understand how the game is allowing you to see information you haven't seen. Why would the engine do this?


Well I don't know for sure, but it definitely seems like an unintended consequence of letting you see the terrain without first scouting. I guess they never took doodads into account. First on Kulas and now here
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
rbx270j
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
January 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#91
On January 15 2011 05:09 Dakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 05:04 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On January 15 2011 05:02 Dakk wrote:
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you could've reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.


wow...just wow :D

nice troll


?
I posted my opinion, it is my right.
Do not critizise it.


criticizing your opinion is everyone else's right in that case.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#92
On January 15 2011 03:46 Puosu wrote:
This used to happen with doodad trees in some other maps (Desert Oasis?) during the beta and was quickly fixed, I am surprised it took this long for someone to notice the same happens in lotem. One can only hope it gets fixed asap.


probably because the flowers are so not seen... where as trees... ya...
I'm like badass squared | KeitZer.489
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
January 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#93
On January 15 2011 03:43 Bodhi wrote:
I wonder if Blizzard will take this out of the map pool.


its Lost Temple, im pretty sure we can all say that map will n ever be taken out. but yea that should be fixed.. def unfair advantage
Dakk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden572 Posts
January 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#94
On January 15 2011 05:13 rbx270j wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 05:09 Dakk wrote:
On January 15 2011 05:04 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On January 15 2011 05:02 Dakk wrote:
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you could've reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.


wow...just wow :D

nice troll


?
I posted my opinion, it is my right.
Do not critizise it.


criticizing your opinion is everyone else's right in that case.


Well, he doesent have to accuse me of being a person that lies and annoys people for my own plaesure.

I am not a troll.. What i posted is how i truly feel.
I will not fear, Fear is the mindkiller. Fear is the little death.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
January 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#95
On January 15 2011 05:11 Numy wrote:
I don't quite understand how the game is allowing you to see information you haven't seen. Why would the engine do this?


It's just how peer to peer multiplayer works. All information exists in memory on each client, it's up to the client to hide things from you that you shouldn't be able to see. The problem in this case is that Blizzard overlooked the fact creep destroys doodads through fog of war without having vision.

The fact everything is in memory is also why maphacks are so easy to make.
Anomandaris
Profile Joined July 2010
Afghanistan440 Posts
January 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#96
Wow, tried a custom game against a friend of mine and proxied 2 gates. Easily won. BLIZZARD FIX THIS!!!

This is huge!
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
January 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#97
On January 15 2011 05:04 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 05:02 Dakk wrote:
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you coukdäve reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.


wow...just wow :D

nice troll

I don't think you know what that means..
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
January 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#98
Plants VS... Zergs
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 20:26:48
January 14 2011 20:25 GMT
#99
On January 15 2011 05:18 Dakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 05:13 rbx270j wrote:
On January 15 2011 05:09 Dakk wrote:
On January 15 2011 05:04 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On January 15 2011 05:02 Dakk wrote:
Wow, i really do hope that they will fix this issue very soon.

I got to tell you that it was reallt stupid of you to post it here really. Now there are alot of people here that are aware of the bug now.

Instead, you could've reported the bug, waited for them to fix it, and then tell us here about it.

Thx for ruining a few potential ladder games for me.


wow...just wow :D

nice troll


?
I posted my opinion, it is my right.
Do not critizise it.


criticizing your opinion is everyone else's right in that case.


Well, he doesent have to accuse me of being a person that lies and annoys people for my own plaesure.

I am not a troll.. What i posted is how i truly feel.


I suggest you think things through for a bit.
If the people are not informed, urgency will not be issued on behalf of the community and Blizzard will never see their mistake.

Word travels fast, even when trying to contain it, if he didn't say anything and told Blizzard about it, someone would have picked it up eventually or be spread in another fashion and the same outcome would occur.

Don't condemn someone for informing the public because of the collateral damage it may cause. It's necessary to eventually fix what is truly "stupid"

Don't take this out of context please.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Runsta
Profile Joined March 2008
United States161 Posts
January 14 2011 20:26 GMT
#100
easiest fix is to remove the flowers from the starting locations. still amazed that things like this still exist, but hopefully blizzard reacts quickly. I'm sure there was a collective "oh shit" moment in their office.
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