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whojohnisgalt
Profile Joined December 2010
93 Posts
January 11 2011 09:02 GMT
#521
yeah chat channels have no mod functionality, pretty bad imo
CakeNSodomy
Profile Joined October 2010
Ukraine20 Posts
January 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#522
Well u know, terrans like to wall of with rax and supply on the bottom, so i wonder if they fixed this.
1Lamb1Rice
Profile Joined August 2010
United States435 Posts
January 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#523
how do you find out what your mmr is like? hopefully im high enough for masters
twitch.tv/lambnrice @LambNRice
Alive!US
Profile Joined November 2010
United States26 Posts
January 11 2011 09:06 GMT
#524
Anyone have an idea when the US servers patch?
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
January 11 2011 09:08 GMT
#525
There is already a new division of Masters so this is just a higher diamond i guess =(
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
January 11 2011 09:09 GMT
#526
On January 11 2011 17:50 Tirr wrote:
Ehm... so patch during GSL? Will be funny to see how pro's adapt and how it'll change current balance

RO32 ends today and there's a small break before RO16 and KR isn't patched until after todays games I'd assume so it's fine :p
CakeNSodomy
Profile Joined October 2010
Ukraine20 Posts
January 11 2011 09:10 GMT
#527
On January 11 2011 18:08 dtz wrote:
There is already a new division of Masters so this is just a higher diamond i guess =(

Yeah, not like proladder in wc3. Just new league, but no limits with opponents.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
January 11 2011 09:13 GMT
#528
On January 11 2011 18:06 Alive!US wrote:
Anyone have an idea when the US servers patch?

it will probably after gsl today as stated, but blizzard hasnt said anything.
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
January 11 2011 09:17 GMT
#529
So are there chat channels or not?
Hobokinz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States126 Posts
January 11 2011 09:19 GMT
#530
On January 11 2011 18:04 lambnrice wrote:
how do you find out what your mmr is like? hopefully im high enough for masters


There is no way to find out, but if you have a good win-loss and are in high diamond then you'll probably get into masters.
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-11 09:22:34
January 11 2011 09:19 GMT
#531
game just dropped in gsl, about to see why. will edit this post.
edit: ok a player was just dropped, part of me was smirking at the possibility of a patch dropping mid gsl
Benjilol
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia244 Posts
January 11 2011 09:20 GMT
#532
Chat channels are working, and are pretty good.

Masters is MMR based, someone on SEA is like 35-13 and is in Masters. MMR based Masters is pretty failure.
| Manager of Xeria Gaming | www.xeriagaming.com |
Hobokinz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States126 Posts
January 11 2011 09:22 GMT
#533
On January 11 2011 18:19 Reptaur wrote:
game just crashed in gsl, about to see why. will edit this post.
edit: ok a player was just dropped, part of me was smirking at the possibility of a patch dropping mid gsl


Damn, that would have made my day if Blizzard patched it right then. =[
Ighox
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway580 Posts
January 11 2011 09:22 GMT
#534
On January 11 2011 18:20 Benjilol wrote:
Chat channels are working, and are pretty good.

Masters is MMR based, someone on SEA is like 35-13 and is in Masters. MMR based Masters is pretty failure.

Why? MMR matters a lot more than points :p
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
January 11 2011 09:24 GMT
#535
EU has to wait until tomorrow morning?
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
Benjilol
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia244 Posts
January 11 2011 09:25 GMT
#536
On January 11 2011 18:22 Ighox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 18:20 Benjilol wrote:
Chat channels are working, and are pretty good.

Masters is MMR based, someone on SEA is like 35-13 and is in Masters. MMR based Masters is pretty failure.

Why? MMR matters a lot more than points :p


I'm currently ranked 220 on sc2ranks master division (which calculates the top 200) and I am not making it into Master, yet people that have played at launch, did 5 rax reaper for a few games, suddenly log back on with 2000 bonus points but a killer MMR, and they make it in.
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tarath
Profile Joined April 2009
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-11 09:32:24
January 11 2011 09:27 GMT
#537
On January 11 2011 18:22 Ighox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 18:20 Benjilol wrote:
Chat channels are working, and are pretty good.

Masters is MMR based, someone on SEA is like 35-13 and is in Masters. MMR based Masters is pretty failure.

Why? MMR matters a lot more than points :p


Idk, if I play someone who appears as favored and has 1000+ games I almost always lose. When I run into some guy whose 15-2 and favored I usually roflstomp him cause he got a high rating by beating a bunch of noobs (usually by cheesing every game).

I think MMR is useful but for players with lower #s of games there can be a ton of variance in their MMR and I would definitely say that some kind of minimum game threshold for Masters (like 500) would make a lot of sense.

I would also say that there should be a requirement of playing a significant number of games recently. I've noticed that occasionally I run into people who haven't played in 2 months and are awful but ran up their MMR early on and I get like 17 points when I beat them but from their play its unclear if they should even be in diamond.
FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
January 11 2011 09:28 GMT
#538
On January 11 2011 18:20 Benjilol wrote:
Chat channels are working, and are pretty good.

Masters is MMR based, someone on SEA is like 35-13 and is in Masters. MMR based Masters is pretty failure.


Why is MMR based masters a failure? All the other leagues are also based on MMR, as points mostly just means you play a lot. MMR is the only accurate indicator of skill.
koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
January 11 2011 09:33 GMT
#539
about MMR and Masters.. It doesn't really matter, in the long run I'm sure the people 'lucky' to get into Masters will get demoted.
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
January 11 2011 09:35 GMT
#540
On January 11 2011 18:27 tarath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2011 18:22 Ighox wrote:
On January 11 2011 18:20 Benjilol wrote:
Chat channels are working, and are pretty good.

Masters is MMR based, someone on SEA is like 35-13 and is in Masters. MMR based Masters is pretty failure.

Why? MMR matters a lot more than points :p


Idk, if I play someone who appears as favored and has 1000+ games I almost always lose. When I run into some guy whose 15-2 and favored I usually roflstomp him cause he got a high rating by beating a bunch of noobs.

I think MMR is useful but for players with lower #s of games there can be a ton of variance in their MMR and I would definitely say that some kind of minimum game threshold for Masters (like 500) would make a lot of sense.

I would also say that there should be a requirement of playing a significant number of games recently. I've noticed that occasionally I run into people who haven't played in 2 months and are awful but ran up their MMR early on and I get like 17 points when I beat them.


You can't get a high rating by beating a bunch of noobs. The system doesn't work like that. Beating a noob doesn't increase your MMR much, as noobs have low MMRs.. I'm tired of all the excuses, and people blaming the system for their failure to get to league X. The system is pretty straight forward, and people do end up where they belong.
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