EPTDay9's union 2011 Address - Page 2
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Also, I'll donate once I get a job  | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
I have a feeling he can take things far | ||
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tarath
United States377 Posts
Even for real sports like football the major analysis shows are all sponsored and advertising and sponsorship is the accepted business model for the vast majority of sports content. I for one certainly wouldn't feel like accepting a sponsorship would be day9 "selling out" and I think if the goal is to expand and grow esports corporate sponsorship and advertising need to be part of that. I think that we should be laying the ground work for the business model of esports as in the end the commercial viability of esports is likely to be what makes or breaks things. Anyways I just wanted to share my thoughts and make sure Day9 knows that at least for me, I would be proud of him if he managed to land a major sponsor for the daily and I wouldn't view it as selling out at all. In fact I would find the fact that a show based on commentary and analysis of SC2 (not even a tournament broadcast) was economically viable to be an extremely positive step in the development of esports. As an entrepreneur who's managed to make a living doing things I love I think it is a very important lesson to learn that you can make money off of something without devaluing it or "selling out" and I think Sean deserves to be rewarded financially for all the value he provides to his thousands of fans through the day9 daily. | ||
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pseudocalm
Canada98 Posts
That's why 2011 is an important year for Sean to find out what the future holds in store, and what he can do to make it better for all of us. It also happens to be timed perfectly with the popularity of sc2 and e-sports rising, making it an important year for everyone interested to get involved. On January 08 2011 17:58 tarath wrote: I for one certainly wouldn't feel like accepting a sponsorship would be day9 "selling out" and I think if the goal is to expand and grow esports corporate sponsorship and advertising need to be part of that. I think that we should be laying the ground work for the business model of esports as in the end the commercial viability of esports is likely to be what makes or breaks things. Send that opinion to feedback@day9.tv I think these are the kinds of things he wants to hear our opinion on. | ||
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OrangeNinja21
United States84 Posts
![[image loading]](http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/007/9/3/day9_with_trumpets_by_orangeninja21-d36o5yr.jpg) Here's a picture I made of him today, Day[9] ftw! | ||
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kwkwookw
218 Posts
esports isn't just having "professional" gaming tournaments that are streamed online, having "progamers", having a gaming community that will most likely only appeal to nerds like all of us. esports is about integrating video gaming into part of mainstream social culture attractive to everyone. and in order for esports to be accessible and entertaining for everyone (not just sc2 fanbois like day9 who think it's the "best rts ever".....) the game has to be very exciting to not only play, but also watch. as we all know, sc:bw has succeeded as much as it has thanks to how entertaining it is as a spectator sport and due to many other reasons you guys can read about in the GSL popularity thread. basically my point is, you just can't force a game to be a platform for esports when the game itself isn't even ready for esports. and i feel it's not only blizzard, but ppl like day9 who are wishing for a sc2 esports scene without having a closer frame of reference towards the state of the game. if the game is exciting and balanced enough, THEN we can try to make it part of esports. compare today's gsl games with the skt vs kt winner's league if you don't know what i'm talking about. actually i guess that's unfair since today was code a. in fact, compared today's winner's league series with any gsl series so far and you'll know what i'm talking about. focus on the gameplay of each game i mean. User was warned for this post | ||
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pseudocalm
Canada98 Posts
On January 08 2011 18:18 kwkwookw wrote: if the game is exciting and balanced enough, THEN we can try to make it part of esports. compare today's gsl games with the skt vs kt winner's league if you don't know what i'm talking about. actually i guess that's unfair since today was code a. in fact, compared today's winner's league series with any gsl series so far and you'll know what i'm talking about. focus on the gameplay of each game i mean. Actually i kind of understand where you are coming from. But it would be foolish to halt all development of e-sports infrastructure around sc2 because the game isn't perfect yet. And it would be equally foolish to think that bw is going to be the game that takes e-sports to the next level as we move into the future. It's people like day9 that are creating an interest in the sc2 community to improve themselves as players and the game in general as a result. This has all been said before and is hardly relevant to this thread and what day9 is trying to do so I hate to feed this line of discussion. But sc2 is a hell of a lot more balanced than BW was less than a year after it's release, and it is exciting enough already that the fan base is large enough for sponsorships to keep flowing in and getting larger, and tournaments to keep getting bigger and more frequent. That coupled with the increasing ability of the Internets infrastructure to support e-sports on a global scale (both semi-pro and pro e-sports) means that things will only get better as time goes on. And as long as people like Day9 are devoted to the cause, with the support of a huge % of the community, I feel great about the direction things are going. | ||
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mufin
United States616 Posts
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Incite
36 Posts
On January 08 2011 18:43 mufin wrote: don't get the wrong idea people that donating to day9 somehow means your contributing to esports. He specifically said that money is to help him with living expenses. ...which does in fact contribute to e-sports. | ||
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kr_priest
Korea (South)223 Posts
On January 08 2011 18:08 OrangeNinja21 wrote: Day[9] is THE leader of Esports right now and I will gladly aid him during this new year of 2011. Sound the Trumpets! Here's a picture I made of him today, Day[9] ftw! Holy crap that's awesome! | ||
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mufin
United States616 Posts
On January 08 2011 18:49 Incite wrote: ...which does in fact contribute to e-sports. not really. donating is just a gesture of thanks for the work day9 does. I doubt day9 will cast aside esports and get a job if he didn't receive donations. His revenue from casting events, youtube, and blip are more then enough to get by on. If the community wants to make esports happen then its going to be with their time and talent, not their wallet. Sponsors provide more money then donations ever could. | ||
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thesmoosh
113 Posts
On January 08 2011 19:09 mufin wrote: not really. donating is just a gesture of thanks for the work day9 does. I doubt day9 will cast aside esports and get a job if he didn't receive donations. His revenue from casting events, youtube, and blip are more then enough to get by on. If the community wants to make esports happen then its going to be with their time and talent, not their wallet. Sponsors provide more money then donations ever could. Did you not watch the video? Right now a big part of the income generated by his dailies goes to help Sean with his living expenses. If people donated enough for him to get by without tapping into those funds, he could use all the money generated by his dailies etc and funnel them into e-sports. All of it is completely optional too. He's still going to be doing the daily, and it's going to be free. He just said that if you would like to help him, you can. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182316 Fuck what other people say. WE will make this happen. | ||
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Omni17
United States141 Posts
Dad watches football, I watch Starcraft. Maybe in the next generation, my kids will be on Starcraft teams in school!! | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
On January 08 2011 19:27 LittLeD wrote: Day9 is the glowing sun in the plague of sadness going on in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182316 Fuck what other people say. WE will make this happen. Bunch of prophecies of doom in that thread. Such bullcrap. Starcraft 2 is getting better and better, and with a guy like day9, how could sc2 possibly fail? | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2107 Posts
On January 08 2011 22:50 labbe wrote: Bunch of prophecies of doom in that thread. Such bullcrap. Starcraft 2 is getting better and better, and with a guy like day9, how could sc2 possibly fail? Exactly my words as well. | ||
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Neverplay
Austria532 Posts
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DuncanIdaho
United States465 Posts
 To all you skeptics, this will help e-sports. We need a figurehead from our community (Day9) that can galvanize us to participate in viewership, who can get more friends interested and involved (tell you friends! Have them join Day9's Ustream Crowd so he can tell sponsor's how big his crowd is!). Furthermore, once we get big sponsors regularly assisting tournaments with prizes and publicity, we may see things start to explode into mainstream, and have, say, primetime games on network TV opposite football and basketball someday... Perhaps when we're old farts sitting on our couch watching Starcraft Infinity matches on Friday night, we can remember how were played a role. By the way, it worked in Korea, why not in the US, Europe, and beyond as well?! See this: http://www.cracked.com/article_18763_5-insane-true-facts-about-starcraft-professional-sport.html?wa_user1=3&wa_user2=Tech&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=moreon Now did you see that stadium? Here it is again: ![[image loading]](http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/9/0/1/30901.jpg?v=1) Now again, why can't this be us? It can people, we just need people to dedicate their time, skilled people who have the viewership and powers of persuasion, and one of those people is Day9. Buy him meat to keep him strong on his journey. | ||
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
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