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Dan7
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria23 Posts
January 10 2011 13:54 GMT
#141
Day[9] himself doesn't realize exactly how important he is for SC and how high he will go. He will do a lot for the community. And if you don't want to donate, just don't donate.
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
January 10 2011 16:01 GMT
#142
I almost wonder on the sponsor thing, if he can't get a lower key deal, where instead of having to plug his sponsors, his replay time bar thing mentions them. Or he puts a poster up in the background. How much would you pay Day9 to have your poster up in the background of his dailies?
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 16:51:21
January 10 2011 16:48 GMT
#143
On January 10 2011 21:26 Naftali wrote:
"Stop thinking and give him money"? Sorry, no. To both commands. I really can't understand why Day9 is some sort higher individual who will lead us into the promised land. He's a good caster, for sure, and the dailies are good (although I'm far too busy to watch them, usually). I can't see why he deserves donations to do things that are basically serving his own interests as much as they are those of esports. He's not some monk with an alms bowl who only eats before noon and then spends the rest of the day meditating on proper drone timing.

He's a business-man and a brand. Get an agent. Get paid well for casting tournaments. Coach for three hundred bucks an hour. Go be a success! Day9 does not need to martyr himself or live on ramen so that esports can get big, because it getting big will ultimately enrich a lot of people. I hope he's one of them. I cannot see why he needs my five bucks to get there, though. Other people have climbed the ladder without asking for handouts, he should, too.

Then don't donate. Save your lectures.

He deserves donations because he deserves to be compensated for what he does. It's not a hand-out; it's a voluntary payment for services. E-sports is not big yet, and the money definitely just isn't quite there for a Day[9]. "Get paid well" is hilllarious advice, btw.

If you don't want to, don't. But don't expect us to buy your weird bootstraps ideologue reasoning for it.
Are you human?
sas01
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada303 Posts
January 10 2011 17:08 GMT
#144
Forget the naysayers!!! E-sports outside of Korea will happen and Day9 is leading the charge!!! Just look at the Reddit event that happened yesterday, just an amazing experience!!! All the people saying sc2 is dead are wrong. Also during weapon of choice djwheat and chill talked about this and i totally agree with them!!
Bean54
Profile Joined September 2010
United States85 Posts
January 10 2011 17:09 GMT
#145
The ideal side of me says, yeah you're being a sellout, you're asking for money for simple living expenses claiming that is going straight to e-sports, when really, its not. But the realistic side of me says, yeah hes just being human and I don't blame him for asking for money. As he states in the video, the donations hes gotten helped pay off his student loans (which if I recall he goes to USC grad school, and as a USC alum I can say it costs an exorbitant amount of money) so why not ask for more?

He's in a "business" that can almost disappear overnight depending on whats holding the interest of gamers at the time. So why not ask for more money when you know you can get it? I think it was a bit much that half the video was basically him asking for money though of course he kept adding the qualifier "but of course you don't have to." I also find it ironic he asks for money and claims he turns down sponsors, yet he sits there with a JINX sweatshirt on over his usual outfit.
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
January 10 2011 17:45 GMT
#146
To me this was quite inspiring and I really hope Sean (along with the community of course) comes up with a solid way to make esports happen. As for myself, I feel I would more likely donate money once it is directed to a more concrete objective, when some projects get in the works.
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 17:57:31
January 10 2011 17:57 GMT
#147
eSports is here, it's up to the community to make it known to those not alreaedy aware and to grow it. In the Americas MLG will be the vessel it seems(but not the only one), people need to show up, stream it and support it just like viewers support GSL.

Sean is a genuinely good person, we are lucky to have him supporting eSports and SC2 in general. The growth potential for this is crazy. He hasn't done adverts like he could have already, which says a lot about him. He could have easily sold out to a company and had "Buy xxxx gear it will make your game better" beneath his layover to cover costs, but instead he has not sold out and I am happy for that.
:P
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
January 10 2011 18:10 GMT
#148
I love Day9 more than I love my taffy.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2107 Posts
January 10 2011 18:21 GMT
#149
On January 11 2011 02:08 sas01 wrote:
Forget the naysayers!!! E-sports outside of Korea will happen and Day9 is leading the charge!!! Just look at the Reddit event that happened yesterday, just an amazing experience!!! All the people saying sc2 is dead are wrong. Also during weapon of choice djwheat and chill talked about this and i totally agree with them!!

Exactly what reddit showed yesterday proved how popular SC2 is ! There was a whopping 14k viewers watching at it's highest when i was on ! That's pretty crazy when you think about it especially compared to a normal club football match here in Denmark when my team plays theres ca. 10+ sitting in the stadium i'm amazed to think that the count is more when watchint Sc2
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
January 10 2011 18:32 GMT
#150
Ugh, so many posts made me facepalm.

Money makes the world go round. Whether it be tournaments needing sponsors to have the cash to operate, or a person putting all their time into creating content for us needing cash for food, cash is needed. It's not inherently evil, though a lot of you seem to think it is.
VelRa_G
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada304 Posts
January 10 2011 18:44 GMT
#151
People are far too sensitive about money because they lack the ability to discern a genuine appeal from a self-interested one. As for me, I can spare coffee-muffin-donut meal, pack a lunch, and ferry the five dollars to something I care about.
Nuda Veritas
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
January 10 2011 19:04 GMT
#152
i'll be donating when i get a paypal set up.

although i think that it would be in everyone's best interest for day9 to start doing whatever small things he can to get some more money to put into esports. for instance, switching to justin.tv. they pay a good amount of money to people with a lot of viewers, and i don't think anyone would mind sitting through a commercial or two at the beginning and end of ever daily if it helped to bring in more money for his projects.

and i don't think he should worry too much about sponsors if they don't get in the way.

esports is still a growing business, and i think that if he wants to accelerate the growth, he's going to need to accept as much money as he can without "selling out"

football is as big as he says it is because the NFL accepts sponsors that pay for things. if he is unwilling to accept sponsors, it will really restrict the flow of money.
-miDnight-
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan455 Posts
January 11 2011 00:49 GMT
#153
I am sure there will be more than enough donation for sean to support living hood. However i felt accept a sponsor for the show will be more stable. Other than donation is more than any sponsor has offered, I can't think of other reason not have a sponsor for the show.
http://www.facebook.com/midnightsc Chinese caster from TW (go SEn)
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
January 16 2011 15:19 GMT
#154
People are allowed to do what they want, but I personally dont understand why you should donate to Day9. I mean its not like you donate so that he can focus more time on this, you donate so that he can eat food. And its just funny that he say no to sponsors and then ask the community kids for cash.

There are alot of people who do a shit tone of work for esports. To say that Day9 is more important or deserv it more is just to piss on all those other people.

Day9 is good, he has made a name out of himself. He should have no problem getting money to help esport get better, without having to ask the community for cash.

But thats just my oppinion.
Creem
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 17:34:54
January 16 2011 17:30 GMT
#155
It's time Blizzard open their eyes for Day9 and realize what he's done for the game and how he's been (and continues to be) a fantastic ambassador not only for e-sports in general, but for starcraft 2 in particular. I wonder how much of Blizzard's income that can be directly attributed to what day9 has done. If anything, Blizzard should sustain him with a reasonable monthly salary. If that happened, combined with sponsorships, the donations would just be a bonus, and not a requirement.

@Purpose If you don't want to donate it's fine, no one has any right to hold that against you. And this is not about Day9 being a more important human being than anyone else, but it's literally impossible to ignore all the work and effort he has put into this.
Disconnect
Profile Joined September 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 20:41:23
January 18 2011 20:39 GMT
#156
Day already shows off Jinx products, tells us what he's drinking, etc. What's wrong with getting paid for plugging products he's going to plug anyway?

Tastosis should be sponsoring him considering all the advertising he gives them by wearing Handsome Nerd shirts.
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