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Champi
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skYfiVe
United States382 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:40 deL wrote: I find it sadder when there's only a few really strong teams and the rest have to live off the scraps. Unless that team nurtured and grew those players into the top level players they are today, of course. Another strong team is always a bonus to the scene! Yeah, I agree another team is always a bonus to the scene as well... it's definitely a good thing for the top players to get something out of it, but I think money is best spent going into the community as a whole at this point.. at least in the US until it catches on more. Spending big on taking other teams players without sponsors yet just kind of upsets me at this point in time. There is a lot of new talent they could have chosen from is all I'm saying. Yeah, this wouldn't happen in a normal world but hey its worth a shot. In the same sense, it isn't like this hasn't been attempted before by even bigger teams so hey.. good luck FXO. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:38 skYfiVe wrote: Just seems pretty sad to me when people have to buy talent off of other teams. At least teams like Lazarus have some respect T.T Are you shitting me? Any team willing to support and create opportunities for players to pursue their dreams should be commended. That includes doing the legwork of securing and providing financial support. | ||
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Unstable87
Australia226 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:44 skYfiVe wrote: Yeah, I agree another team is always a bonus to the scene as well... it's definitely a good thing for the top players to get something out of it, but I think money is best spent going into the community as a whole at this point.. at least in the US until it catches on more. While i agree with you on this point, i would like to point out the $2400 in prizes FXOpen have given away this month alone for sc2 tournaments and trust me. It is NOT going to slow down! | ||
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skYfiVe
United States382 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:49 Defacer wrote: Are you shitting me? Any team willing to support and create opportunities for players to pursue their dreams should be commended. That includes doing the legwork of securing and providing financial support. Yeah, you are right it is commendable. I don't disagree with that, but when the amount of money these players can reasonably make off of tournaments per month at the moment compared to their salary on this team is considerably lower, it is a pretty reasonable statement to make that they should be putting this money elsewhere. On December 11 2010 13:51 Unstable87 wrote: While i agree with you on this point, i would like to point out the $2400 in prizes FXOpen have given away this month alone for sc2 tournaments and trust me. It is NOT going to slow down! I fullheartedly hope that they don't slow down. That is amazing that they are doing this. I'm just trying to kindly get to the point that when corporate teams like this or whatever you might call them bully smaller, inspiring teams in a growing game, there is a strong chance of it hurting the game in the long run. I hope I'm wrong.. I'm not trying to make this a big deal *edited to reply to 2nd post* | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:52 skYfiVe wrote: Yeah, you are right it is commendable. I don't disagree with that, but when the amount of money these players can reasonably make off of tournaments per month at the moment compared to their salary on this team is considerably lower, it is a pretty reasonable statement to make that they should be putting this money elsewhere. I have to totally disagree here. Banking your whole lively hood on winning tournaments is not a very good thing. This will allow players stability to focus on SCII and SCII only. | ||
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skYfiVe
United States382 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:54 iCCup.Diamond wrote: I have to totally disagree here. Banking your whole lively hood on winning tournaments is not a very good thing. This will allow players stability to focus on SCII and SCII only. I wouldn't call $600/month stability. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Well I had no idea what the salary was, but where I am from, $600 a month > $0 a month, although that number is sort of low for a Forex company. I'm just talking in general here too, not specifically to this situation, but in general. Salaried players needs to be the norm going into 2011. | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
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skYfiVe
United States382 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Well I had no idea what the salary was, but where I am from, $600 a month > $0 a month, although that number is sort of low for a Forex company. I'm just talking in general here too, not specifically to this situation, but in general. Salaried players needs to be the norm going into 2011. I agree. It is good for Starcraft without a doubt, I just wish that these companies coming in would kind of allow for teams with extremely talented players to maybe pick up a few sponsors to get going first. This isn't exactly as extreme as the NFL where players are being traded extremely often based on salaries. On the other hand, if this is a positive step towards a more highly supports scene, I'm all for it. I don't mean disrespect to FXO, I'm just expressing my thoughts on how new teams are picking up. On December 11 2010 13:58 FXOpen wrote: skyfive who have you been talking to to get your information? Going to go ahead and leave that disclosed. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Well I had no idea what the salary was, but where I am from, $600 a month > $0 a month, although that number is sort of low for a Forex company. I'm just talking in general here too, not specifically to this situation, but in general. Salaried players needs to be the norm going into 2011. I am not sure what you mean on sort of low for a forex company? As far as I am aware, any players in FXO were not getting a salary to start with, and without turning this thread into a slagging match, which it potentially could become. Our offers were higher than other teams at the time. Having the 'highest' salaries for this level of play (anyone who isn't boxer really) is something commendable. You do not enter a market that is paying peanuts and say "here guys, be millionaires". Of course, if it so happens FXOpen e-Sports grows accordingly, there is a possibility that would happen in the future. You should consider our venture as a business being backed by an already successful business. Rather than someone trying to gain clientele from sponsoring someone for a few shequels. Our vision is different to what is currently the norm, and this is how we were able to obtain such names in our team. As far as I am aware, no one came to FXOpen e-Sports for money. They came because of our vision. At the same time, no toes have been stepped on, no corners have been cut, and no tears have been shead. One of the bigger issues holding e-sports back, is the negativity from the broader community. e-Sports should be no different to Rugby, NFL, NHL etc. But rather the same situation. You go where you see you can make the most of your abilities. I hope this clarifies any concerns or uncalled for hate. | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On December 11 2010 14:01 skYfiVe wrote: I agree. It is good for Starcraft without a doubt, I just wish that these companies coming in would kind of allow for teams with extremely talented players to maybe pick up a few sponsors to get going first. This isn't exactly as extreme as the NFL where players are being traded extremely often based on salaries. On the other hand, if this is a positive step towards a more highly supports scene, I'm all for it. I don't mean disrespect to FXO, I'm just expressing my thoughts on how new teams are picking up. Going to go ahead and leave that disclosed. I get where you're coming from but this isn't just a company coming in with megabux and buying up all the players. Sheth is realistically the only player in the lineup who was in a steady team and then he was not their ACE player featuring in every CW with them - not ripping the backbone out of the team. Also, it's not just some faceless company who think they wanna make money off of e-Sports. All of the management are some of the most notable community members on the SEA server and all visit TeamLiquid, etc. Even the company representative played the original BW 10 years ago and knows a significant amount about the game. What I am saying is, it is like a traditional clan/team in every way including the relationship between players and credentials of the management. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
Someone went to the trouble of searching and meeting with potential sponsors, wrote a bunch of proposals, jumped through a lot of hoops, and did all the legwork to convince a brand or marketing manager somewhere that giving a bunch of computer game nerds was a good idea for their business. On top of that, they had to convince a bunch of really good players to join their team, probably before they had any commitment from a corporate sponsor. I don't know anything about Root Gaming or how it functions, but they had and continue to have great players to build support around. It seems like they're just missing those people that do that thankless, unglorious legwork of getting financial support. | ||
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
On December 11 2010 13:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Sheth leaving ROOT is big news here imo Ya I don't know why it had not been mentioned in this thread till you said it. So whos going to be taking over ROOT? or will ROOT just die? | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On December 11 2010 14:04 FXOpen wrote: One of the bigger issues holding e-sports back, is the negativity from the broader community. e-Sports should be no different to Rugby, NFL, NHL etc. But rather the same situation. You go where you see you can make the most of your abilities. WORD. SC2 is like any young sport. Take snowboarding for instance. There was a time that 'real' snowboarders would chastise their peers for having the audacity to accept sponsorship. Or they would frown on newcomers and outsiders that weren't part of the lifestyle because they weren't 'real' fans. These new fans and sponsors are the ones that will eventually make SC2 sustainable as a e-sport. | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
Your team looks well organized and hard working so far, and I am sure you can already be an example to some of those other teams. Keep it up and gl! | ||
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