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He called me "So fucking gay" in the game, despite us doing the same cheese against each other
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rANDY
United Kingdom748 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Getting rematched with someone I just beat + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + He called me "So fucking gay" in the game, despite us doing the same cheese against each other + Show Spoiler + | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On April 04 2012 20:45 Emix_Squall wrote: So people that are 10 times better than you and whose lvl you'll never reach never have to play against random players. That sure is a good reason why you shouldn't play against them .... Makes a lot of sense ... Random players got their reasons to play random but they definitely aren't the same for everyone. Some want the easy wins cheesing (I did that all my way through gold league this way at the time), some just like all races, some just want the portrait, some might even argue they do it to taunt other players. Anyway when I see players on ladder that BM or Rage after I beat them as random and their macro was actually awful, it makes your argument even worthless. It's fine for a PRO Gamer to refuse to play against random because he needs practice and he won't have to face any in his important matches. For everyone else on ladder, you'd be able to beat the cheesy random players if your mechanics and decision making were good enough. But they aren't so you have no right to pretend it's useless for you to play against a random player. Just get better to the game, become a pro, reach the skills level where this argument is relevant if you want to use it. Otherwise stop whining. Easy man. Your're awefully aggressive. That's just a discussion. It makes sens if you to practice against a race you know. I didn't leave when playing random at time when i was sort of good. But it makes sense for some people. BMing or raging because you lost to a random player is dumb. I wasn't winning and i was actually talking about pro or semi-pro... So we are talking about the same thing... No need to become aggressive.... On April 04 2012 20:46 Senjai wrote: Uhmm i didnt cannon rush, I did a FFE, pylon blocked his nat (then he said rofl) and took his third spot, so i put a pylon and two cannons (only two) at his third to deny that one. I didnt cannon rush at all, and had a full expo behind it. My bad Didn't watch the replay. On April 04 2012 20:55 [AthruN] wrote: You just play with no dignity or respect it's ok Not sure if trolling | ||
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Lazer
Germany20 Posts
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smallerk
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:45 FFW_Rude wrote: No need to become aggressive.... Yeah my tone is a bit aggressive, I'm sry, but I'm kinda fed up with people bitching about random players when there is actually no reason to it. Saying it is a twisted match up during the first minute because you don't know your opponents race would make sense if only the people saying it knew how to keep a build going when they're under pressure. Fact is most the people bitching about random players are actually just bad players who don't know how to handle some of the very basic elements of the game. If cheesing was SOOOOO strong pro gamers would do it all the time, but as you might have noticed most of them don't do it very often. Maybe it's because when you reach a decent level of skill cheeses become much less powerfull than they seem. So once again I say people shouldn't even talk about random players whose game might not always be very skillful, when their own game is full of bronze lvl flaws (yeah bronze lvls, because diamond and masters player tend to forget how it was in those league where everyone cheeses, go play a few game on a bronze account, come back on you Diamond account, you won't get cheesed again trust me, you'll have learned to scout cheeses). | ||
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TheV
Brazil107 Posts
On April 04 2012 23:10 Emix_Squall wrote: Yeah my tone is a bit aggressive, I'm sry, but I'm kinda fed up with people bitching about random players when there is actually no reason to it. Saying it is a twisted match up during the first minute because you don't know your opponents race would make sense if only the people saying it knew how to keep a build going when they're under pressure. Fact is most the people bitching about random players are actually just bad players who don't know how to handle some of the very basic elements of the game. If cheesing was SOOOOO strong pro gamers would do it all the time, but as you might have noticed most of them don't do it very often. Maybe it's because when you reach a decent level of skill cheeses become much less powerfull than they seem. So once again I say people shouldn't even talk about random players whose game might not always be very skillful, when their own game is full of bronze lvl flaws (yeah bronze lvls, because diamond and masters player tend to forget how it was in those league where everyone cheeses, go play a few game on a bronze account, come back on you Diamond account, you won't get cheesed again trust me, you'll have learned to scout cheeses). Dude, are you ridiculous? ZvZ I open 14 pool 14 gas ZvP I open 14 pool 16 hatch ZvT I open 15 hatch 15 gas 15 pool. Wtf am I suppose to open against random? You realize you have a huge advantage early on, if you don't want people bitching about it do as I do when I play random, tell the opponent your freaking race when the match starts. If you say your macro is good and you don't rely on the random advantage to win I see no problem whatsoever with telling your opponent what race you spawned as. | ||
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Nineball
Norway163 Posts
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/85Zdc.jpg) I opened three rax for a stim timing push, which he scouted completely. I scouted his three rax and no units, so I assume an expand. I decide to push in to deny his natural while I take mine, and I discover he has ~2 stalkers, a sentry, 2 zealots and 2 cannons to handle ~20 marines and marauders. When I pick off all of these units, this is the response I get. I was trying to tell him he scouted it and shouldn't be mad at me for making a timing push =[ | ||
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MarcoBrei
Brazil66 Posts
On April 04 2012 23:19 TheV wrote: Dude, are you ridiculous? ZvZ I open 14 pool 14 gas ZvP I open 14 pool 16 hatch ZvT I open 15 hatch 15 gas 15 pool. Wtf am I suppose to open against random? You realize you have a huge advantage early on, if you don't want people bitching about it do as I do when I play random, tell the opponent your freaking race when the match starts. If you say your macro is good and you don't rely on the random advantage to win I see no problem whatsoever with telling your opponent what race you spawned as. Random has an advantage, of course. But also has a disadvantage, you must know how to play (good) with all races. Telling your race is silly, because you give away your advantage and keeps the disadvantage. You may want tell your race, no problem, but do not expect everyone to do the same. | ||
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TheV
Brazil107 Posts
On April 05 2012 01:59 Holytornados wrote: Mine came as a TvP on ladder (Plat): + Show Spoiler + I opened three rax for a stim timing push, which he scouted completely. I scouted his three rax and no units, so I assume an expand. I decide to push in to deny his natural while I take mine, and I discover he has ~2 stalkers, a sentry, 2 zealots and 2 cannons to handle ~20 marines and marauders. When I pick off all of these units, this is the response I get. I was trying to tell him he scouted it and shouldn't be mad at me for making a timing push =[ Hahaha gotta love 'em greedy mad Protosses. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On April 04 2012 00:10 Nyast wrote: A year ago ( unfortunately I don't remember the exact conversation and don't have pics ), a guy lost and started to rage, that he was in the mafia and was gonna hire a hitman to kill me. Some people are nuts in their head. LOLLLL beware. Might wanna ask Jean-Claude to keep an eye on you. | ||
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Tapwat
2 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/18LU5.jpg) Quite an overreaction, I do believe. It's not my fault he can't defend against late game DTs. | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On April 04 2012 23:00 smallerk wrote: So many protoss players posting in this thread yeah, i've noticed when i'm playing toss I get BMd a lot more. but we're the bad guys right? | ||
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SpearWrit
United States300 Posts
On April 05 2012 08:01 AegiS_ wrote: yeah, i've noticed when i'm playing toss I get BMd a lot more. but we're the bad guys right? We're the heroes Starcraft 2 deserves, but not the ones it needs. | ||
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dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point? | ||
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MarcoBrei
Brazil66 Posts
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote: Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point? Micro really matter for Terran. When a terran player is micro-intensive he's ultra-OP. When playing with A+Move he's just super-OP. I'm joking... it's that everyone hates terran, I think that's because losing to terran player is worse than losing any other match, it looks like the enemy doesn't deserve the victory, had no effort. But it may be just the way it looks. I trust Blizzard to do the balance. | ||
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Sajaki
Canada1135 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OAhRC.png) Since he cheesed me pretty hard last game, i expected something similar, open reactor hellions like last game, but since the map is Shakuras i figure if he is gonna bust it will be with roaches. sure enough, Ling bane roach >__<. He breaks my three bunkers and kills a good chunk of scvs before i repel him with reinforcements. However for him to have SO MANY UNITS i know he must have cut workers pretty hard, so i think i am actually not that far ahead. He thinks he had the game hands down, and told me so. BM -_- ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PW43w.png) Again, figuring we are on similar economies, and since i have bio with stim whilst he is stuck on low tech... i dont GG (re: G) out of the game. Won't lose to two allins - -;; ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6XQbr.png) Feels so good man :D | ||
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utrabo
Brazil17 Posts
On April 05 2012 09:36 MarcoBrei wrote: Micro really matter for Terran. When a terran player is micro-intensive he's ultra-OP. When playing with A+Move he's just super-OP. I'm joking... it's that everyone hates terran, I think that's because losing to terran player is worse than losing any other match, it looks like the enemy doesn't deserve the victory, had no effort. But it may be just the way it looks. I trust Blizzard to do the balance. It's pretty hard to say a fight is fair when you lose it. It's not about balance, not even about Starcraft. The only way to know if someone deserved or not a victory (if there is a way), is to dispassionately watch the replay after the game and check the numbers. If your macro was better, your micro was better, you made the counter and lost, something is wrong. But, in my opinion, if that happens, then you would have probably won. | ||
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
On April 04 2012 23:19 TheV wrote: Wtf am I suppose to open against random? You realize you have a huge advantage early on, if you don't want people bitching about it do as I do when I play random, tell the opponent your freaking race when the match starts. If you say your macro is good and you don't rely on the random advantage to win I see no problem whatsoever with telling your opponent what race you spawned as. That's actually what I've been doing for the last month. I talked about it and how it benefited my game a few times on other threads. Just didn't feel like it would be useful to do it here too but since bitches are bitching .... gotta say it once again. Now what you're saying concerning the advantage would be true if we were both GM league Pro Gamers. But we're not so no you're argument isn't valid at all. You're just bad enough to get surprised by something you don't expect because you don't know how to scout (and so am I , and so are most players before Top Masters). Sry if it hurts your feelings boy but it's the truth. You don't loose against a cheesing random player because it's imba or because he had a HUGEEEEE advantage early on, only coz you were bad enough to let his cheese happen without noticing. Now enough talked about random players no one cares about. We basically started mentioning them because they generate a lot of BM, not so that people could justify their losses. | ||
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Snoodles
401 Posts
On April 05 2012 02:05 MarcoBrei wrote: Random has an advantage, of course. But also has a disadvantage, you must know how to play (good) with all races. Telling your race is silly, because you give away your advantage and keeps the disadvantage. You may want tell your race, no problem, but do not expect everyone to do the same. With those openers you have time to scout and react. | ||
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