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Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
April 05 2012 14:05 GMT
#3281
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


You're a funny guy.

User was warned for this post
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
April 05 2012 14:10 GMT
#3282
On April 05 2012 23:05 Sphen5117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


You're a funny guy.


You're an ignorant guy.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
April 05 2012 14:21 GMT
#3283
On April 05 2012 23:10 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 23:05 Sphen5117 wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


You're a funny guy.


You're an ignorant guy.


He's trolling you ^^
MarcoBrei
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil66 Posts
April 05 2012 14:44 GMT
#3284
On April 05 2012 22:23 utrabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 09:36 MarcoBrei wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


Micro really matter for Terran. When a terran player is micro-intensive he's ultra-OP. When playing with A+Move he's just super-OP.
I'm joking... it's that everyone hates terran, I think that's because losing to terran player is worse than losing any other match, it looks like the enemy doesn't deserve the victory, had no effort. But it may be just the way it looks. I trust Blizzard to do the balance.


It's pretty hard to say a fight is fair when you lose it. It's not about balance, not even about Starcraft. The only way to know if someone deserved or not a victory (if there is a way), is to dispassionately watch the replay after the game and check the numbers. If your macro was better, your micro was better, you made the counter and lost, something is wrong. But, in my opinion, if that happens, then you would have probably won.



It's hard to say if a fight was fair if you win either. But we "feel", right? I'm talking just about the "feeling". Losing to a terran in general is harder to accept than losing to zerg or toss. The numbers sometimes proves your feeling was wrong, but sometimes not.
I don't think there is big imbalance in game, but I think there is a big hate over Terran race, and there's no much to do about it. Also, Terran was the most nerfed race since sc2 was launched, so if it's not overpowered today, it was for some time in past. This may be the reason to people have this feelings about Terran months ago, and people will not change his feelings so easy.

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creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 18:57:01
April 05 2012 14:53 GMT
#3285
On April 05 2012 23:05 Sphen5117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


You're a funny guy.


Terran is BY FAR the most micro-intensive race. You must not be very good. Think about it. 200/200 zerg vs 200/200 terran A move into each other, zerg comes out WAY ahead. Same with protoss vs terran. Terran can only really be exploited in the lategame with very good micro. Zerg is A move in battles but I'm not taking anything away from them because they have other challenges. protoss well idk

User was warned for this post
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Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
April 05 2012 14:55 GMT
#3286
On April 05 2012 23:44 MarcoBrei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 22:23 utrabo wrote:
On April 05 2012 09:36 MarcoBrei wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


Micro really matter for Terran. When a terran player is micro-intensive he's ultra-OP. When playing with A+Move he's just super-OP.
I'm joking... it's that everyone hates terran, I think that's because losing to terran player is worse than losing any other match, it looks like the enemy doesn't deserve the victory, had no effort. But it may be just the way it looks. I trust Blizzard to do the balance.


It's pretty hard to say a fight is fair when you lose it. It's not about balance, not even about Starcraft. The only way to know if someone deserved or not a victory (if there is a way), is to dispassionately watch the replay after the game and check the numbers. If your macro was better, your micro was better, you made the counter and lost, something is wrong. But, in my opinion, if that happens, then you would have probably won.



It's hard to say if a fight was fair if you win either. But we "feel", right? I'm talking just about the "feeling". Losing to a terran in general is harder to accept than losing to zerg or toss. The numbers sometimes proves your feeling was wrong, but sometimes not.
I don't think there is big imbalance in game, but I think there is a big hate over Terran race, and there's no much to do about it. Also, Terran was the most nerfed race since sc2 was launched, so if it's not overpowered today, it was for some time in past. This may be the reason to people have this feelings about Terran months ago, and people will not change his feelings so easy.


Every race has been OP at some point in the game. People used to QQ about Templars with amulet and one Korean Player even made it his own style rushing this upgrade and abusing it. Roaches used to be 1 pop and have 3 armor, Terran used to build Barracks before depot.... Enough with the balance issue, every notable problem as already been dealt with.
And as far as the size of the army is concerned for Terran, players tend to forget the MMM army composition is the one with most synergies between it's units. OFC 3 population constituted of a marine with stim and shield + a medivac is gonna last ten times longer than 2 stalkers or 6 zerglings ....


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Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
April 05 2012 15:14 GMT
#3287
Holy crap guys keep the balance discussing and whining out of this thread. It's meant for entertainment purposes so we can see silly things that people say in game, not argue about what race is OP or requires the most micro. Take that crap somewhere else.
http://www.youtube.com/SCBattleGrounds
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
April 05 2012 16:22 GMT
#3288
On April 05 2012 23:53 creamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 23:05 Sphen5117 wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


You're a funny guy.


Terran is BY FAR the most micro-intensive race. You must not be very good. Think about it. 200/200 zerg vs 200/200 terran A move into each other, zerg comes out WAY ahead. Same with protoss vs terran. Terran can only really be exploited in the lategame with very good micro. Zerg is A move in battles but I'm not taking anything away from them because they have other challenges. protoss well idk



not sure if trolling....
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
April 05 2012 16:58 GMT
#3289
Something in the area of 5 pictures in the last 3 pages... turning into a balance whine, should get mods on this
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
NewModel
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany124 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 17:34:21
April 05 2012 17:33 GMT
#3290
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i´ll just love it, when people dont say hello or gghf or anything. but when they loos they have to flame the shit out of you.


edit: and im proud to become HULK rage :D
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2012 17:36 GMT
#3291
On April 05 2012 23:53 creamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 23:05 Sphen5117 wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


You're a funny guy.


Terran is BY FAR the most micro-intensive race. You must not be very good. Think about it. 200/200 zerg vs 200/200 terran A move into each other, zerg comes out WAY ahead. Same with protoss vs terran. Terran can only really be exploited in the lategame with very good micro. Zerg is A move in battles but I'm not taking anything away from them because they have other challenges. protoss well idk


You are in the wrong thread.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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danakaz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark84 Posts
April 05 2012 17:47 GMT
#3292
On April 05 2012 23:53 creamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 23:05 Sphen5117 wrote:
On April 05 2012 08:56 ExpeCTed_ wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:40 Dewis wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/N7he1.jpg

Funny coming from a terran!


Terran is the most micro-intensive race, what's your point?


You're a funny guy.


Terran is BY FAR the most micro-intensive race. You must not be very good. Think about it. 200/200 zerg vs 200/200 terran A move into each other, zerg comes out WAY ahead. Same with protoss vs terran. Terran can only really be exploited in the lategame with very good micro. Zerg is A move in battles but I'm not taking anything away from them because they have other challenges. protoss well idk

You wouldn't happen to play Terran, would you?
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
April 05 2012 18:02 GMT
#3293
To be fair to creamer, I think he is talking about literally zero micro, in which case yes, a 200/200 terran army would lose to the maxed out zerg because 40 banelings would wipe out all 200 of his supply. But yes, more awesome BM, less balance whining!
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
April 05 2012 18:37 GMT
#3294
?! of those 40 banelings only 1 or 2 would connect vs a maxed army. you don't even need to split marines once you have enough of them. sorry for keeping the derailment.
Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
April 05 2012 18:42 GMT
#3295
On April 06 2012 03:37 latan wrote:
?! of those 40 banelings only 1 or 2 would connect vs a maxed army. you don't even need to split marines once you have enough of them. sorry for keeping the derailment.


If you are sorry then don't fucking do it. People keep posting ignorant crap of which they have no understanding or knowlegde about in a thread that is called "Awesome/Confusing SC2 BM", it's an outrage!
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11453 Posts
April 05 2012 18:53 GMT
#3296
If you're talking about balance and not posting Awesome/ Confusing SC2 BM, you're in the wrong thread.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
delayedone
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 11:10:42
April 06 2012 11:09 GMT
#3297
Today I meet cpt. obvious - the silver league version - and he was in a very bad mood
[image loading]
Well guess what ... if i was not playing like shit i would not play in silver against someone like him
[image loading]
So the guy went for a zealot and colossus build ... and forced this fight
[image loading]
which lead to this
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a rage quit and more bm through chat
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
April 06 2012 11:21 GMT
#3298
LOL, Im pretty sure that about half of the people who claim map hack dont even know what it is... if you guys got to the point of having armies that large then map hack wasnt really an issue, rofl.

What is a manner lose?
g3rd0
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany94 Posts
April 06 2012 11:58 GMT
#3299
Seemed like a nice guy at first...

[image loading]
(the nopes came from finding hidden probes in each others base)

But after I scouted a hidden base of his and then just attacked he ragequitted and followed it up with this:
[image loading]

Talk about stereotypes!
:-)
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 14:53:23
April 06 2012 14:41 GMT
#3300
This was pretty funny:
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this wasn't:
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