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NewK
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden63 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 10:24:32
February 06 2012 10:23 GMT
#2801
http://drop.sc/106147

BeastyQT asking me to kill myself for 5-gating him.


[image loading]

(this was before emp nerf/warp prism buff/immortal buff/upgrades buff, back when PvT was 30/70 in korea)
#1 Naniwa Fan!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 06 2012 13:33 GMT
#2802
On February 06 2012 19:23 NewK wrote:
http://drop.sc/106147

BeastyQT asking me to kill myself for 5-gating him.


[image loading]

(this was before emp nerf/warp prism buff/immortal buff/upgrades buff, back when PvT was 30/70 in korea)


Have to say, he wasn't threatening you with murder he was merely encouraging suicide :D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rasp
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada16 Posts
February 06 2012 14:53 GMT
#2803
ZvT on Antiga... read chat from bottom to top

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If you're curious, here's the push that he was going to kill me with:
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Killed it with a ling/bane surround
When you bite off more than you can chew, start chewing
JDub
Profile Joined December 2010
United States976 Posts
February 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#2804
On February 06 2012 13:33 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 08:59 Zode wrote:
I think if you message someone after game and say gg when they never said gg and they had just left, then yea. If they say gg and leave I don't see the harm in returning it.

If someone does that to me, I view it as them rubbing it in. Surely you can understand that.

No, I can't really understand that. If you say "gg" and then leave, it's perfectly manner for the other player to send you back a "gg". If you quit the game without saying anything, then you're implying you don't want to talk with the other person, and if they send you a "gg" THEN you are justified in getting annoyed by it.

If we don't take this approach, how else are SC2 players supposed to interact? Is it only okay to strike up a conversation with your opponent if you are the losing player?
NewK
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden63 Posts
February 06 2012 15:21 GMT
#2805
On February 06 2012 22:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 19:23 NewK wrote:
http://drop.sc/106147

BeastyQT asking me to kill myself for 5-gating him.


[image loading]

(this was before emp nerf/warp prism buff/immortal buff/upgrades buff, back when PvT was 30/70 in korea)


Have to say, he wasn't threatening you with murder he was merely encouraging suicide :D

I know^^ was just provoking for funz
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46206 Posts
February 06 2012 15:26 GMT
#2806
On February 06 2012 14:11 absoluteX wrote:
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On January 15 2012 13:37 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
On January 15 2012 12:42 UmiNotsuki wrote:
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What? xD

This is what makes this thread great :D


ahahaha best one so far


Top five imo :D

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Fuhrmaaj
Profile Joined January 2011
167 Posts
February 06 2012 17:06 GMT
#2807
I got into an RvR (that's random vs random) on Antiga Shipyard, we roll TvP. After the game:

[image loading]

I challenged him to a rematch, best race vs best race but he didn't respond.
Random player
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
February 06 2012 17:31 GMT
#2808
On February 07 2012 02:06 Fuhrmaaj wrote:
I got into an RvR (that's random vs random) on Antiga Shipyard, we roll TvP. After the game:

*image*

I challenged him to a rematch, best race vs best race but he didn't respond.
I play Random from time to time on my offracing account and I get stuff like this a lot too. When you get RvR, do they leave half the time? They always seem to when I get it. The other day I got an RvR, and as soon as he scouted it was PvP he left the game. Then I immediately got matched with him again and he rolled Terran and I rolled Protoss and he proxy 2port banshee rushed me. I've also had RvR where they just auto-leave. I don't get it. Or they do dumb stuff, like an RvR where the guy didn't scout until after going forge first (I guess he assumed I was zerg?) and I was Terran so I just did gasless 1rax expand into 4rax marine pressure and killed his expansion since he walled off but made no cannons. It was odd.
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BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 17:52:27
February 06 2012 17:50 GMT
#2809
On February 07 2012 02:31 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 02:06 Fuhrmaaj wrote:
I got into an RvR (that's random vs random) on Antiga Shipyard, we roll TvP. After the game:

*image*

I challenged him to a rematch, best race vs best race but he didn't respond.
I play Random from time to time on my offracing account and I get stuff like this a lot too. When you get RvR, do they leave half the time? They always seem to when I get it. The other day I got an RvR, and as soon as he scouted it was PvP he left the game. Then I immediately got matched with him again and he rolled Terran and I rolled Protoss and he proxy 2port banshee rushed me. I've also had RvR where they just auto-leave. I don't get it. Or they do dumb stuff, like an RvR where the guy didn't scout until after going forge first (I guess he assumed I was zerg?) and I was Terran so I just did gasless 1rax expand into 4rax marine pressure and killed his expansion since he walled off but made no cannons. It was odd.


The reason they leave in RvR is because they are playing Random to get an unfair advantage in the first place, if they are matched against another random player their unfair advantage disappears and they might actually have to put effort into winning the match so it's easier for them to just leave and queue up again rather than scout and play without blind coin flip cheese. This also explains why in RvR they might simply do something odd and incredibly coin-flippy like blindly going Forge First, these players are used to simply flipping coins for their wins in the first place so scouting isn't important to them it's just luck.
Fuhrmaaj
Profile Joined January 2011
167 Posts
February 06 2012 17:52 GMT
#2810
On February 07 2012 02:31 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 02:06 Fuhrmaaj wrote:
I got into an RvR (that's random vs random) on Antiga Shipyard, we roll TvP. After the game:

*image*

I challenged him to a rematch, best race vs best race but he didn't respond.
I play Random from time to time on my offracing account and I get stuff like this a lot too. When you get RvR, do they leave half the time? They always seem to when I get it. The other day I got an RvR, and as soon as he scouted it was PvP he left the game. Then I immediately got matched with him again and he rolled Terran and I rolled Protoss and he proxy 2port banshee rushed me. I've also had RvR where they just auto-leave. I don't get it. Or they do dumb stuff, like an RvR where the guy didn't scout until after going forge first (I guess he assumed I was zerg?) and I was Terran so I just did gasless 1rax expand into 4rax marine pressure and killed his expansion since he walled off but made no cannons. It was odd.


Yeah, I get all that from time to time. It's hard because you have to play your most conservative build in all matchups when you play against random. I get that. Most of the time when I play against random I get cheesed or all-ined. I'm playing legit until I choose a race, but I haven't made my mind up in five seasons. Typically people will supply scout me (or equivalent for their race), and if they find me first then they're fine.
Random player
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
February 06 2012 22:16 GMT
#2811
ok so, it's a ZvP on Shakuras, i 6 pool (don't judge me t.t) my opponent opens ffe. my lings get to his base and do some good probe damage before his cannon gets up. i start to drone back up and expand, my 8~ lings go back into his base and managed to pick of an exposed cybercore and several probes he pulls in an attempt to save it. at this point he starts pausing to be bm. i go mutas and when i get a mass up i basically just kill him while defending his DTs. he continues to bm and i play along. (He even says "I wish i had more pauses" so i started pausing for him xD) after ive killed all his probes/units i mass banelings to finish off his buildings for fun
http://drop.sc/106310

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note: the things i said when i was playing along with his bm are not true. i don't have a wife (I'm 17), and i don't do what he's implying i do ;P

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ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 22:32:19
February 06 2012 22:26 GMT
#2812
On February 07 2012 02:50 BeeNu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 02:31 Ben... wrote:
On February 07 2012 02:06 Fuhrmaaj wrote:
I got into an RvR (that's random vs random) on Antiga Shipyard, we roll TvP. After the game:

*image*

I challenged him to a rematch, best race vs best race but he didn't respond.
I play Random from time to time on my offracing account and I get stuff like this a lot too. When you get RvR, do they leave half the time? They always seem to when I get it. The other day I got an RvR, and as soon as he scouted it was PvP he left the game. Then I immediately got matched with him again and he rolled Terran and I rolled Protoss and he proxy 2port banshee rushed me. I've also had RvR where they just auto-leave. I don't get it. Or they do dumb stuff, like an RvR where the guy didn't scout until after going forge first (I guess he assumed I was zerg?) and I was Terran so I just did gasless 1rax expand into 4rax marine pressure and killed his expansion since he walled off but made no cannons. It was odd.


The reason they leave in RvR is because they are playing Random to get an unfair advantage in the first place, if they are matched against another random player their unfair advantage disappears and they might actually have to put effort into winning the match so it's easier for them to just leave and queue up again rather than scout and play without blind coin flip cheese. This also explains why in RvR they might simply do something odd and incredibly coin-flippy like blindly going Forge First, these players are used to simply flipping coins for their wins in the first place so scouting isn't important to them it's just luck.


Exactly this. You shouldn't even be allowed to play random. There's nothing more frustrating than a random player who plays incredibly greedy with like a nexus first and you just have to use a super safe build because you don't know which race the guy is. I usually always 1 rax expand and obviously wall-in when I play against random because it's the safest build after all against all races, and then I get like owned because my opponent went nexus first and I scouted him last, so I'm already really far behind or I get tank rushed in TvT, because I build a wall-in, in case the random player is zerg and with a 1 rax expo there's no way you can get tanks out soon enough to stop him from tank rushing your wall-in.

It's risky metagame nonsense and they know exactly that they have an advantage and abuse it as hard as they can. I think when someone picks random it should show you the race he got at the beginning of the game. It's just really frustrating when you 1rax expo vs. a zerg, no way you can put pressure on him because you only have 1 rax and if he wants he can drone like a madman and take an early third and there's nothing you can do, just because you were forced to play safe...

edit: The option to play "random" shouldn't exist. If you want to play random you should just have to pick the races in order. 1st game terran, 2nd game protoss, 3rd game zerg, 4th game terran, 5th game protoss, and so on and so forth. There's your random and you actually have a fair game every single time. How about that?
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
February 06 2012 22:34 GMT
#2813
On February 06 2012 08:53 Zode wrote:
ZvZ on Tal, after both FEing and then going muta, I close out the game with roach hydra infestor vs his 45 mutas assorted banes, lings, and roaches:

[image loading]

Not many people gg on ladder, So after I return the gg:

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I ask him about his MASS mutas and what if i had gone infestors, he misunderstands and calls me bad etc(not shown). Then I watch the replay(the first pic):

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So confusing...

So he GGs and leaves.... and you msg him afterwards being pretty sarcastic (probably pretty BM as well in the sections you left out...) and are confused that he was mad?

dont message someone after you win! You only come across as a dick.

No1 has ever been happy to get a GG from someone who just beat them... ever....unless its white ra...which you aren't... so don't do it.
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
February 06 2012 22:40 GMT
#2814
On February 07 2012 00:06 JDub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 13:33 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On February 06 2012 08:59 Zode wrote:
I think if you message someone after game and say gg when they never said gg and they had just left, then yea. If they say gg and leave I don't see the harm in returning it.

If someone does that to me, I view it as them rubbing it in. Surely you can understand that.

No, I can't really understand that. If you say "gg" and then leave, it's perfectly manner for the other player to send you back a "gg". If you quit the game without saying anything, then you're implying you don't want to talk with the other person, and if they send you a "gg" THEN you are justified in getting annoyed by it.

If we don't take this approach, how else are SC2 players supposed to interact? Is it only okay to strike up a conversation with your opponent if you are the losing player?

yea pretty much because 10/10 times the winning player is going to be smug or rude or trying to get a reaction out of the losing player. I don't think I've ever gotten a good piece of advice from someone who just beat me. Hell most people don't even fully understand what occurred in the game they just played (NA low masters at least)

You can interact on TL, reddit, chat channels, custom games, literally anything EXCEPT talking to someone after you beat them on ladder.

That being said I usually dont care if someone sends me a gg after i gg wp and leave. But I can't really think of a time someone has sent me an out of game gg and when I dont respond (cuz im in a new game) doesn't follow up with some form of BM (you know you only lost cuz xyz.... or maybe if you did xyz you wouldnt have lost.... or just straight up flaming) Because any1 with manners will have just moved on to the next game at this point.
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
February 07 2012 05:31 GMT
#2815
if someone actually leaves with "GG WP" I usually always message them after the game and simply say "thx". I never thought it's BM, just good manners to say "thank you" when someone tells you "well played". so my question is, do people think it's BM to message someone after a game in general, or is this an exception, because for me personally it is.
justalex
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
February 07 2012 05:45 GMT
#2816
Too lazy to load up the replay and put up some screen shots, so I'm just gonna post the chat log from SCgears


00:00:15 - JustAlex to ALL: glfh
00:00:18 - JustAlex to ALL: *glhf

00:15:39 - zergberg to ALL: FUCK YOU SO MUCH YOU STUPID PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT I HOPE YOUR MOM GETS AIDS AND DIES A HORRIBEL DEATH

00:15:45 - JustAlex to ALL: ♥
00:15:45 - zergberg to ALL: FUCK YOU
krun
Profile Joined August 2011
23 Posts
February 07 2012 19:04 GMT
#2817
[image loading]

too bad i don't save replays, i would have more of it. all of those are from past 10 games, i think. also, all come from zerg players
Sallek
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark17 Posts
February 07 2012 19:41 GMT
#2818
was playing 3v3

im high gold normally but i got in silver for 3v3... was playing with all russians (i think from their letters when typing)

my 2 allies left efter 10 mins after getting attacked(only the one lost most of his base) - i had fast expanded to gold and was massing rines + all minerals/gas i got from the leavers

i mass dropped and won

they kept talking "russian" so i replied with "noobs" - and this was their reply - thought it very funny!

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Never question your luck
L1ghty
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium51 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 19:57:25
February 07 2012 19:56 GMT
#2819
On February 07 2012 07:26 ChaosTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 02:50 BeeNu wrote:
On February 07 2012 02:31 Ben... wrote:
On February 07 2012 02:06 Fuhrmaaj wrote:
I got into an RvR (that's random vs random) on Antiga Shipyard, we roll TvP. After the game:

*image*

I challenged him to a rematch, best race vs best race but he didn't respond.
I play Random from time to time on my offracing account and I get stuff like this a lot too. When you get RvR, do they leave half the time? They always seem to when I get it. The other day I got an RvR, and as soon as he scouted it was PvP he left the game. Then I immediately got matched with him again and he rolled Terran and I rolled Protoss and he proxy 2port banshee rushed me. I've also had RvR where they just auto-leave. I don't get it. Or they do dumb stuff, like an RvR where the guy didn't scout until after going forge first (I guess he assumed I was zerg?) and I was Terran so I just did gasless 1rax expand into 4rax marine pressure and killed his expansion since he walled off but made no cannons. It was odd.


The reason they leave in RvR is because they are playing Random to get an unfair advantage in the first place, if they are matched against another random player their unfair advantage disappears and they might actually have to put effort into winning the match so it's easier for them to just leave and queue up again rather than scout and play without blind coin flip cheese. This also explains why in RvR they might simply do something odd and incredibly coin-flippy like blindly going Forge First, these players are used to simply flipping coins for their wins in the first place so scouting isn't important to them it's just luck.


Exactly this. You shouldn't even be allowed to play random. There's nothing more frustrating than a random player who plays incredibly greedy with like a nexus first and you just have to use a super safe build because you don't know which race the guy is. I usually always 1 rax expand and obviously wall-in when I play against random because it's the safest build after all against all races, and then I get like owned because my opponent went nexus first and I scouted him last, so I'm already really far behind or I get tank rushed in TvT, because I build a wall-in, in case the random player is zerg and with a 1 rax expo there's no way you can get tanks out soon enough to stop him from tank rushing your wall-in.

It's risky metagame nonsense and they know exactly that they have an advantage and abuse it as hard as they can. I think when someone picks random it should show you the race he got at the beginning of the game. It's just really frustrating when you 1rax expo vs. a zerg, no way you can put pressure on him because you only have 1 rax and if he wants he can drone like a madman and take an early third and there's nothing you can do, just because you were forced to play safe...

edit: The option to play "random" shouldn't exist. If you want to play random you should just have to pick the races in order. 1st game terran, 2nd game protoss, 3rd game zerg, 4th game terran, 5th game protoss, and so on and so forth. There's your random and you actually have a fair game every single time. How about that?


Wow, what a bunch of bullshit about playing random. I play random on my second account and I don't go nexus/CC first. I usually do a safe expand. Sometimes hatch first, but that's pretty legit to do in some matchups. If it's really that much of a bother to you, just scout early and you're safe.

I've played random, I've played against random, I've played my main race and against people who main race. I think the most cheese I get is RvX and then ZvX. I know quite a few people cheese (macro or rush) as random, but that's really not different from other players. And as random I get all inned so damn much, just because of the quoted opinions. Maybe it's a vicious circle, but it's not gonna get better if both sides keep thinking like you guys do.

The reason people, or at least I, play random, is to understand the three races more and break the mold a bit (zerg can get pretty boring). The whole thing about 'getting an unfair advantage' is crap, because you give up only having to learn BO's for one race to play three (and probably be much worse at 1 or 2). Obviously you get the advantage that your opponent doesn't know which race you are instantly, but you lose something in return.
<3 PsY
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
February 07 2012 20:06 GMT
#2820
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I was playing a 3v3 and I went reaper and hellions all game long. Killed about 150 workers, and cancelled/killed off 5 expos.
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