EPTPTR Patch 2.0 is up - Page 7
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DreamSailor
Canada433 Posts
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deathserv
United States228 Posts
fungal growth + hold key is a gift to the zerg players. but not like a christmas gift, more like one of those gifts you have to give your wife after you've cheated on her. Brilliantly put, my man... haha. | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On December 14 2010 02:57 Invol2ver wrote: He didnt say he was comparing late air tech he said in order to get +2 air upgrades you have to build a fleet beacon. You dont have to build a fusion core to get +2 air as terran and you dont have to build a greater spire as zerg to get +2 air either though you do need a hive and it is more comparable.For late game air tech AND +2 upgrades, each respective race requires: Pylon > Gateway > Cybercore > Stargate > Fleet Beacon 850 Minerals 450 Gas Pool > Lair > Spire > Infestation Pit > Hive > Greater Spire 900 Minerals + 150 for 3 Drones 700 Gas Depot > Barracks > Factory > Armory > Starport > Fusion Core 850 Minerals 450 Gas In short, stop it. Conversely +1 air can be got extremely quickly with just a cyber core though. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
Meaning, the way it was originally designed made much sense, if you want strong(er) air the game was designed in a way that makes you "want" the beacon anyways - carriers are unlocked by it and rays get their awsome speed upgrade. Now it's just strange....though definitely not gamebreaking or anything. EDIT: also the fusion core originally unlocked the cloak for banshees, something very balanced that I still not understand how Blizz can take this away and make a cloaked flying unit easier available than a cloaked ground unit | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On December 14 2010 04:30 sleepingdog wrote: Problem is, earlier I wanted to get fleet beacon eventually even if I stick with rays...because of the flux vanes. Now with flux vanes removed it's just a bit odd that you need the beacon if you want +2 rays, I doubt anybody will ever build the beacon just to unlock this tech-possibility. Meaning, the way it was originally designed made much sense, if you want strong(er) air the game was designed in a way that makes you "want" the beacon anyways - carriers are unlocked by it and rays get their awsome speed upgrade. Now it's just strange....though definitely not gamebreaking or anything. terran needs an armory if he wants +2 marines, that makes more sense ? | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On December 14 2010 04:32 cilinder007 wrote: terran needs an armory if he wants +2 marines, that makes more sense ? Toss needs a twilight council if he wants +2 "anything-but-air" - so yes, it does makes sense, one additional building that you "maybe" don't want (vs terran yes, vs zerg...not necessarily). Toss has got two, the TC for forge +2 and the beacon for air +2. Again, previously this made sense, now it must look like somewhat silly design for somebody who doesn't know the whole patch-history. | ||
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LambtrOn
United States671 Posts
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roflcopter420
Sweden168 Posts
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GoldenH
1115 Posts
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
On December 14 2010 05:16 roflcopter420 wrote: wtf is ptr? public test realm. | ||
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BleaK_
Norway593 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
There is currently no strategy in this game that can't be beaten by being the better player. | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
What does this mean? I though in the first PTR patch they made the sounds be like BW, cut each other off now they changed it back?? Noooo  | ||
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k20
United States342 Posts
On December 14 2010 04:47 LambtrOn wrote: Does anyone else feel the skill level on the PTR is higher than the regular server? Someone actually mentioned this in game during one of my placement matches and after playing about 20 games, I have to agree. Maybe it's because I'm only in silver on the regular server, but it seems like I can only beat people who are like 2-11 and in bronze, whereas I'm beating upper gold players on the regular server. Probably because Joe Blow average noob doesn't know it even exists. Only people who care are good players. | ||
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LambtrOn
United States671 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:20 k20 wrote: Probably because Joe Blow average noob doesn't know it even exists. Only people who care are good players. Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. Kinda nice to have a place to practice against better than average players | ||
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Sodaplay111
United States41 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:39 Sodaplay111 wrote: what did it mean by "holding down a key"? Press z while selecting larvae. Don't press it multiple times, just hold, and then you ahve a shitton of zerglings. Aka not having to hit zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | ||
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italiangymnast
United States246 Posts
On December 11 2010 05:31 teacash wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2010 05:27 DaBears57 wrote: I feel like the protoss players aren't complaining enough. I mean they removed speed void rays and the ability to wall off with two pylons. All of this happened without much QQ, almost the entire thread of the original PTR thread was zerg users complaining. Top protoss players are also too modest when it comes to balance. Top protoss players like incontrol and nony are the last ones to cry imba,whereas for zerg they have the very vocal idra and artosis. After all is said and done, they revert zerg changes after only a couple of days and while they kept the phoenix buff, they still removed two huge aspects of protoss (pylon wall and speed rays). ** throws up why would you encourage whining? i think they are fine changes and i am a toss player. so it takes 3 pylons to block instead of 2. this way it is still possible but wont happen ever game. and idk much about the top lever for speed void rays, but i never say them all that much except in that guinea pig game. | ||
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Sockpuppet
119 Posts
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Sodaplay111
United States41 Posts
On December 14 2010 06:46 Froadac wrote: Press z while selecting larvae. Don't press it multiple times, just hold, and then you ahve a shitton of zerglings. Aka not having to hit zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz is that just in PTR??? or is that happening in real sc2?? | ||
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