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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
December 10 2010 10:42 GMT
#121
It works like other professions and success works. If you want to be good at something, work hard for it.
pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
December 10 2010 10:45 GMT
#122
"Going pro" and "getting good" are 2 different things.

Work out if "getting good" is possible yet; 8 months to 2000+ isn't indicative of this yet. Note that in Korea, the top30 in the ladder obviously means fuck all when it comes to the GSL; theres only a few "good" players in the top part of the ladder there who succeed in the GSL. So I wouldn't use any ladder stats as a yard stick for skill just yet.

The first part is to get to the top part of the ladder and how you adapt to play when you start getting matched up against some of the best players. Actually if you do very well in this latter stage, you will undoubtedly be noticed by teams and other good players, the next natural step would be to do well in tournaments and the such.

But first figure out if you have the talent for it; I know alot of people talk about "14 hours a day = pro" but alot of the SC1 players do this and still don't make it because they haven't got that physical factor.

Comma20
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia138 Posts
December 10 2010 10:54 GMT
#123
10,000 hour rule.
Play every game to improve.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
December 10 2010 11:06 GMT
#124
On December 10 2010 14:02 Socke wrote:
the problem is that most of the really good guys have been playing rts competitively for many years.. its really hard to catch up to that being new to rts.
best way to get better is to be focused on improving while grinding many many games.
then do well in tournaments and get sponsorship


ur not completely right but its a huge advantage being in the scene from the start.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
Silent331
Profile Joined June 2010
United States356 Posts
December 10 2010 11:17 GMT
#125
Play more games, Make SC2 ur life, watch everything you can and improve by playing. You dont have enough games played and at ur current stand you wouldn't even make master league, right now to get master you need at least 2300 points. Dont dedicate urself until you get at least there. Your first goal is top200, during ur training to get to top 200 you need to compete in every tournament out there, go deep vs known players or win a bunch and you will get seen.
They cant beat you, They only hope you beat yourself.
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
December 10 2010 11:25 GMT
#126
What about the mortal kombat tournament everyone forgot about that?
Are you human?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 11:29:50
December 10 2010 11:29 GMT
#127
On December 10 2010 14:05 compscidude wrote:
i'll be realistic here.
you will have a greater chance if you stop school and play games from a younger age.
This was the case for Flash, one of the dominant player in SC history.
He started when he was 15, and big portion of his time went to practices.

If your motivated to succeed in e-sports, i recommend having your priorities changed.
Gaming would have to be your first not school, and by all means, this doesnt mean you
must drop out. But rather, you have to understand that doing good in school is not what you
would be expecting, given that you are motivated to succeed in gaming.

So my point is, set your priorities.
How are you going to spend you time?

Flash was a pro when he was 15, but he started playing when he was 12. He didn't just become one of the arguably best players of the time in like, a month.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Koh
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom111 Posts
December 10 2010 11:39 GMT
#128
There is a life after the age of 16 guys, concentrate on schoool, maybe take part in tournaments when you're in your mid-twenties, you may pick up sponsorship and have some fun with it, and you may also be very surprised by how happy you are that you have eSports AND a nice college education under your belt. The world is out there, don't limit your choices now for the sake of corporate sponsorship. Equally however, it's your choice, that's what's so good about it, there are no rules to follow really.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 10 2010 11:46 GMT
#129
On December 10 2010 20:29 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 14:05 compscidude wrote:
i'll be realistic here.
you will have a greater chance if you stop school and play games from a younger age.
This was the case for Flash, one of the dominant player in SC history.
He started when he was 15, and big portion of his time went to practices.

If your motivated to succeed in e-sports, i recommend having your priorities changed.
Gaming would have to be your first not school, and by all means, this doesnt mean you
must drop out. But rather, you have to understand that doing good in school is not what you
would be expecting, given that you are motivated to succeed in gaming.

So my point is, set your priorities.
How are you going to spend you time?

Flash was a pro when he was 15, but he started playing when he was 12. He didn't just become one of the arguably best players of the time in like, a month.

He did become an S-class player unusually fast though. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
December 10 2010 11:50 GMT
#130
It's not wasting your life if you stay in school and do well and then see what you can do. Keep practicing hard as a hobby with a focus on improving your play and go from there. Who cares if you spend your down hours watching TV, at an extracurricular activity, or practicing starcraft.

Do well in school, don't close other doors in your future over the slim possibility of becoming a pro gamer.

friendlybus
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia78 Posts
December 10 2010 12:20 GMT
#131
The only way to get better is to play better opponents. Do that and you'll be fine. Little things like managing your own psychology so you're getting the most out of each engagement make a big difference. Don't listen to haters. Win tourneys, get offers. If you dont win major tournaments after your 4th or 5th try, best go try something else and stick to this a hobby. You can make a lot more money than a pro gamer in other professions, so do them for a day job.
woot
Alphasquad
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria505 Posts
December 10 2010 12:26 GMT
#132
talent, a lot of practice and most of all the focus on playing (which means no school/job or anything else that catches your attention)
rkffhk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
474 Posts
December 10 2010 12:32 GMT
#133
Some newbie always makes a thread asking this question like every few months, and the answer is always the same.

Do well in tournaments.

Also, use the search button ffs
"Did not realize gold was such an important threshold for people, I guess I honestly take it for granted that if people practice / invest enough time into this game then they would make diamond in no time." ~Caihead
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
December 10 2010 12:38 GMT
#134
On December 10 2010 19:45 pksens wrote:
"Going pro" and "getting good" are 2 different things.

Work out if "getting good" is possible yet; 8 months to 2000+ isn't indicative of this yet. Note that in Korea, the top30 in the ladder obviously means fuck all when it comes to the GSL; theres only a few "good" players in the top part of the ladder there who succeed in the GSL. So I wouldn't use any ladder stats as a yard stick for skill just yet.

The first part is to get to the top part of the ladder and how you adapt to play when you start getting matched up against some of the best players. Actually if you do very well in this latter stage, you will undoubtedly be noticed by teams and other good players, the next natural step would be to do well in tournaments and the such.

But first figure out if you have the talent for it; I know alot of people talk about "14 hours a day = pro" but alot of the SC1 players do this and still don't make it because they haven't got that physical factor.



4 of top 30 in korea are foxer accounts that people know about.
There's no S in KT. :P
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
December 10 2010 12:39 GMT
#135
OP should play in online tournaments and do well to win money. That's the first step. GL to you.
There's no S in KT. :P
Champ24
Profile Joined August 2010
177 Posts
December 10 2010 13:22 GMT
#136
2k is nothing special.

You only live once, so do what you love, but you probably aren't going to cut it.

Stay in school and play for fun.
Happykola
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom62 Posts
December 10 2010 13:36 GMT
#137
one does not simply become a pro into mordor
Ars long, Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps, Experimentum periculosum, Iudicium difficile
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
December 10 2010 13:41 GMT
#138
You become semi-pro when the IRS knows you play Starcraft, and that means you're getting at least some money. You then become a pro when you can make a living off Starcraft.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 13:43:43
December 10 2010 13:42 GMT
#139
By spending your free time when you're not working on school practicing sc2 instead of reading TL and posting pointless threads.

You will never become pro by posting your diamond profile in a thread and ask whether or not you're fucking awesome and should quit school. The step from non pro to pro should be getting a paid offer to train full time, because if you need to train 10 hours to be as good as someone who plays 3 hours its not looking good.
Idmaif
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
December 10 2010 13:44 GMT
#140
OP here! thanks for all the great replies! im going to responde to a lot of things people have said.

for the ones who say that it is not worth missing college: we go to college and get a good job to be rich and live a fun and happy life. but if i am living a fun and happy life anyway just by working, then its fine!

for the ones who say that say i need a backup plan: i know this, i will get some part time job while im working my way up so that can pay for everything with SC2 tourneys to make up the difference.

for the ones who say that 2k so far isnt good: let me tell you just the experiences ive had so far. so during the beta, you know, all new players suck and just have to learn everything. around the end of the beta, i started playing as zerg and was around high gold level back then, but as the game came out, i shot up right into diamond in a few weeks, back then i kinda only played casually but lately i have been really working myself to do 1v1. i have played in a few local tournaments (plus 2 more this month) and a few online tournaments, i know i have to get recognized, i just need to practice a little more.
remember: i said i was in highschool, i still have 1.5-2 years left to get from mid-high diamond to top diamond so i think that can be a realistic goal.

for those of you telling me just not to drop out of highschool: i know this. i was never planning on it because my parents would never let me. i am just spending the last of my highschool years just dedicating myself to just practicing, and of course over the summers i will play like 15 hours a day and really work then.

i know i have to watch lots of pro games too, i do a lot. i usually right now during school spend about 3 hours a day playing and about 1 hour of watching pro games and then the day9 daily.

and i know that i have more than just 2 years to get pro because a lot of the pros out there are in their early 20's so i still have 4 or 5 years even for that.

thanks again to everyone. (and lol, the first game i played today, the guy was like "didnt you make that huge thread on TL?")
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