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hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 18:16:26
December 06 2010 18:15 GMT
#61
Here is something I sent to rich a few weeks ago about such a thing: (didnt garner a responce, oh well)

I was thinking about this yesterday. A lot of great articles in the sc2 strategy section get drowned by people asking for help, or just general rants and other things posted on there.

I think it would be really awesome, to perhaps have some sort of "Premium Article" status, which mods would place on really good topic of discussion. A star right before a topic title would be an indicator of a great topic.

Also, I think it would be cool to have a setting some where, perhaps a check box, where it would filter that forum by premium. So you would only see articles that have been deemed awesome by a mod. these would sort by last post date, like usual. But it would be a way to "clean" out the forum, and bring the top players back to the section.

Of course only the highest quality topics and posts would make this cut. One of them being Plexa's PvZ overview. I would however refrain from giving a general build thread "premium", as this would crowd the section.

I have also seen a few "quality poster" stars next to peoples names. Notice, i say, "a few". Perhaps there should be some sort of time limit that you must wait (like 2 weeks perhaps) until an article/discussion/topic goes premium. Then, from there are, any one can see the post, but only the "quality poster" and above and post something. This would of course mean giving out more stars, but i have only seen a few of these.

I don't know what they give a user, but this could be a cool plus to make people want to post higher quality content. Of course you could limit the amount of people that are considered for this status by taking the total TL population of people that visit per month, and take a percentage of that and only allow, say, x% to obtain this status. Keeping track of these people to make sure they are posting "quality", and at the end of each month, the list is "trimmed" and slots are opened. This is, if user population becomes a problem. You don't want people just getting in and then not posting, as a quality poster.

Also, perhaps they (quality poster) and above can use the filter function.


I would think that we don't necessarily need a "pros only" discussion, But something to separate the average posts with the amazing posts.
random user
Profile Joined December 2010
85 Posts
December 06 2010 18:16 GMT
#62
I'm not sure if this is splitting hairs too finely, it seems like there are generally two types of posts in the strategy section, and I think they can be treated differently. In my ideal world I'd like to see:

- a general strategy forum which anyone can post to (similar to what exists now) mostly for strategy discussion, or asking for help from the general public, or to discuss a broad issue

- a specific strategy help forum in which anyone can post, used to ask specific questions on some aspect of strategy, with a replay, from which only "qualified" members can respond to.

Of course, I don't know what you need to have to be qualified. Honestly, I think if you are diamond it's probably good enough.... you may still be a bad player, but at least you are a bad player who is good enough to get to diamond, and even a bad diamond player can probably help a lower league player with some tips, and probably knows enough to respect the opinion of a top-diamond player.

This wouldn't be a 100% solution, but it perhaps could lessen some of the most egregious problems.
aquanda
Profile Joined January 2003
United States477 Posts
December 06 2010 22:35 GMT
#63
Pros won't share secrets or how tos on how to be uber. There is simply no incentive for them.

However, there is a huge disparity between pro and high level diamond, as well as silver and high diamond. I don't think a pro forum would work, but separating the casual player who likes to make incorrect asumptions based on his lack of experience from a high diamond player who has over 1k games played at a competitive level would be a huge step in a positive direction.

ayekuf
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom91 Posts
December 06 2010 22:37 GMT
#64
Just have a forum where only "top players" can post but that everyone can read.
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ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
December 06 2010 22:38 GMT
#65
ABSOLUTLEY.

Perhaps the discussion shouldnt only be freely, but also centerd around a new subject every week like.

"How to defend against 4gate?" /Discuss u godly players
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
December 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#66
While I think it would be so great if Pro Players would post in the strategy section most of them will not. It will be tidbits of advice here and there. So maybe those that are high diamond but don't care about there strategies being known would be great. At the same time I think we will lose many Great Strategies in the process if there are 2 seperate strategy sections anything not in the VIP section would get disregarded and we would have missed out on Gems like KCDC 1 Gate FE. That thread for example has about 20 pages discrediting the strategy saying it won't work now we all know thats not the case but at the same time it wasn't posted by a "Pro" player. Sometimes that is enough for people to shoot down strategies no matter how much work you put into your post.

Right now I think the spotlight is a great idea though it did take a while for the 1 gate fe to get spotlighted because it takes a while to make sure a build is really solid.

If what you suggest is implemented I think it would be great.

Edit:

Not sure if I wanted to mention it but it is true that some players put their strategies elsewhere and receive some income or put them into profitable guides. That is another thing that would effect of the amount of posts in a VIP only strategy section from Pro players. Again, I agree with the idea but I think implementation and success would be hard to achieve.
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 22:47:07
December 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#67
On December 07 2010 02:50 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 16:39 Jibba wrote:
On December 06 2010 16:27 potatomash3r wrote:
Cool idea. But Pros wont have the time of day to post and theorycraft, they're too busy actually playing the game.

Nor do they want to share strategies publicly.

I know people like IdrA/Nony/Inc have the same addiction to TL like most of us do, but they're also kind of rare among the top players. If you stick the top 200 NA players in their own forum, how much discussion do you think will really take place?
97% Avilo whining about Terran being under powered
2.5% Incontrol trolling people
0.5% Actual discussion


It might be true, but I really think it is worth trying, I mean, if it suck you can just shut it down.
And also, you might try inviting regular people that are just pretty high at the ladder (like top 500, or something like that) those might post more regularly
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 22:46:54
December 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#68
double posted, sorry
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
December 06 2010 23:02 GMT
#69
On December 07 2010 07:38 ch4ppi wrote:
ABSOLUTLEY.

Perhaps the discussion shouldnt only be freely, but also centerd around a new subject every week like.

"How to defend against 4gate?" /Discuss u godly players


This would be cool. The community could vote for a new subject each week so everyone is involved that way.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
December 06 2010 23:03 GMT
#70
On December 07 2010 07:45 debasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 02:50 Plexa wrote:
On December 06 2010 16:39 Jibba wrote:
On December 06 2010 16:27 potatomash3r wrote:
Cool idea. But Pros wont have the time of day to post and theorycraft, they're too busy actually playing the game.

Nor do they want to share strategies publicly.

I know people like IdrA/Nony/Inc have the same addiction to TL like most of us do, but they're also kind of rare among the top players. If you stick the top 200 NA players in their own forum, how much discussion do you think will really take place?
97% Avilo whining about Terran being under powered
2.5% Incontrol trolling people
0.5% Actual discussion


It might be true, but I really think it is worth trying, I mean, if it suck you can just shut it down.
And also, you might try inviting regular people that are just pretty high at the ladder (like top 500, or something like that) those might post more regularly



I think Top 200 would bring great discussion. I think Minigun would contribute. KCDC was in top 200 not sure if he is now. Trump is/was top 200, Ryan Rushia is/was top 200. Many of these people have given great community feedback with blogs strategy threads, and insight to there playstyles. Many top 200 just play ladder and try new builds but aren't necessarily in tournaments.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
December 06 2010 23:09 GMT
#71
On December 07 2010 02:50 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 16:39 Jibba wrote:
On December 06 2010 16:27 potatomash3r wrote:
Cool idea. But Pros wont have the time of day to post and theorycraft, they're too busy actually playing the game.

Nor do they want to share strategies publicly.

I know people like IdrA/Nony/Inc have the same addiction to TL like most of us do, but they're also kind of rare among the top players. If you stick the top 200 NA players in their own forum, how much discussion do you think will really take place?
97% Avilo whining about Terran being under powered
2.5% Incontrol trolling people
0.5% Actual discussion


lol, although the percentages are only slightly off, I think we can all agree.

However, we'll never know without giving it a shot. I don't think posting privileges in the forum should be limited to less than the top 200.

If you've been in the top 200 within 3-6 months, you can post. Posting privileges decay after that time period.
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Dayvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States77 Posts
December 06 2010 23:27 GMT
#72
On December 07 2010 08:02 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 07:38 ch4ppi wrote:
ABSOLUTLEY.

Perhaps the discussion shouldnt only be freely, but also centerd around a new subject every week like.

"How to defend against 4gate?" /Discuss u godly players


This would be cool. The community could vote for a new subject each week so everyone is involved that way.


I think this would be interesting as well. However, I think I would be more interested in seeing a forum exactly like the one that currently exists except with all (or mostly, at least) points of the discussion being useful or insightful, which I know is wishful thinking.. I'd rather have them "do their own thing," so to speak, in their own dedicated place - talking more about their own interests among each other as opposed to the community's interest. I say leave the community involvement to systems like the Day[9] Daily.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 06 2010 23:56 GMT
#73
Although it would be "something cool"

but how would you know WHO gets in?
how would you know when to KICK someone?
how would you know WHERE to put it?
how would you know how to ENCOURAGE players to post?

soooo many questions left unanswered...
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 07 2010 00:49 GMT
#74
I feel pretty conflicted about this. In one hand this would only bring segregation and maybe even more elitism to TL. On the other hand it is sad to see people respond to a much better player than them with some oneliner crap response.

Also we would have the issue of getting pros to actually post there. I'd say things are Ok as they are and one change that was mentioned seems like a good solution. If a thread makes up a lot of good discussion it should be featured or something like that.

"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
jeeunit
Profile Joined November 2010
United States22 Posts
December 07 2010 01:09 GMT
#75
What do you guys think about the star commenter system on sites such as gizmodo? For instance, can we have the option to only show comments made by those commentators who regularly contribute good discussions and ideas?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 07 2010 01:16 GMT
#76
It would be so worthwhile to have a separate forum for the 'pros' to discuss things on. Just look at sotg, people eat that stuff up, me included. Once a week though is hardly enough for most people to get their fix on what some top players think about certain strategies/patches etc. I don't care in the slightest about not being able to post in a forum like that, and 91% of the people who've voted so far don't care either. please please make this happen!
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Victim
Profile Joined August 2010
United States188 Posts
December 07 2010 02:03 GMT
#77
I wouldn't mind seeing a forum where top gamers could contribute more freely.

However, I think that concerns about elitism seem legitimate. Someone doesn't have to be a top player to come up with a good idea, and I think that a separate forum would make it even easier to dismiss those ideas. For all that SotG rags on TL strategy forums, I seem to recall Idra commenting at IEM that he read about magic box Mutas on the boards. With a pro forum, I think that a lot of tricks like that would be mostly dismissed unless the player could win a tournament with them - and coming up with one good trick or theory with potential but little refinement is a lot different than being a top player.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
December 07 2010 02:08 GMT
#78
I think this forum would be good in that many of the better players would actually bother to post in threads knowing that they can't get trolled by silver noobies.

Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
December 07 2010 02:14 GMT
#79
On December 07 2010 11:03 Victim wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing a forum where top gamers could contribute more freely.

However, I think that concerns about elitism seem legitimate. Someone doesn't have to be a top player to come up with a good idea, and I think that a separate forum would make it even easier to dismiss those ideas. For all that SotG rags on TL strategy forums, I seem to recall Idra commenting at IEM that he read about magic box Mutas on the boards. With a pro forum, I think that a lot of tricks like that would be mostly dismissed unless the player could win a tournament with them - and coming up with one good trick or theory with potential but little refinement is a lot different than being a top player.

I don't see something like this as being about strategy (though I disagree as well that lower-level players' opinions are worth as much in that respect either) as much as seeing what the top players think about big events such as the PTR and the reaction to the GSL quarters and stuff like that. I think that it would take a lot of the trolling out of the LR threads, but maybe I'm just being a dreamer
MjrBuzz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States219 Posts
December 07 2010 02:36 GMT
#80
I was a little disconcerted when they discussed this on SOTG. They had mention one idea was around posts counts. As a several year lurker, a recent sign up, and only occasional poster, why should my opinion be invalidated because I don't spam a response on every thread. If a post count requirement was created you will run into even more spam so individuals could meet this requirement.

I know this has been mentioned in the past but balance discussions derail more threads than anything else on here. With the PTR, and 2 more expansions on the way, these balance discussions are not going away.Simply create a balance sub-forum. Any discussion of race or unit balance should be done here only. All other forums should take the mentality of the game is 100% balanced. And any attempts to derail with balance discussion should be addressed/redirected via a mod. This would allow one specific area for balance discussion and leave everywhere else to productive and healthy discussion.

The strategy section should be an area for strategic advice. It's all about trying things out and finding what works for you. It should not be a golden singular answer. Where the strategy section and even several threads in sc2 general has turned into a joke is from the imba imba responses. I love TL and want to see it remain the top non-Korean SC resource.
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