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rift
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qxc
United States550 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45110 Posts
On December 06 2010 16:12 Kennigit wrote: We've been talking about this since before Beta even started. We have a number of solutions - they are in the pipeline. Yay  Hopefully a new section is made! Reading the forum would be pretty awesome; it would shed a lot of light on what the top-tier gamers are doing. I wonder what the criteria would be to be able to post in that forum... + Show Spoiler + Master League? | ||
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
On December 07 2010 07:35 aquanda wrote: Pros won't share secrets or how tos on how to be uber. There is simply no incentive for them. However, there is a huge disparity between pro and high level diamond, as well as silver and high diamond. I don't think a pro forum would work, but separating the casual player who likes to make incorrect asumptions based on his lack of experience from a high diamond player who has over 1k games played at a competitive level would be a huge step in a positive direction. Hi Aquanda... There is a huge disconnect between what a 2200 diamond player can do and a true elite/pro player. That's why certain builds work for pros and seem to have so many holes against solid (1800-2200) diamond players. And yes, that's what teams are for its doubtful that you would find too much quality here. I remember spending late, late nights with the aBs guys and Hurkyl on the GX server and working on the perfect timings in TvP on both sides. For all the discussion it was a lot more games. I think this is much more of how you find the progamming teams play. One person will just play extremely standard and solid and the other will keep trying different strategies to find a hole in it. (or vice versa) Obviously with replays now you can just pause the replay and see where someone is at a certain point and then try using builds to beat the timer to get the unit combo you want when you would need it verse that build. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On December 07 2010 11:36 MjrBuzz wrote: I was a little disconcerted when they discussed this on SOTG. They had mention one idea was around posts counts. As a several year lurker, a recent sign up, and only occasional poster, why should my opinion be invalidated because I don't spam a response on every thread. If a post count requirement was created you will run into even more spam so individuals could meet this requirement. I know this has been mentioned in the past but balance discussions derail more threads than anything else on here. With the PTR, and 2 more expansions on the way, these balance discussions are not going away.Simply create a balance sub-forum. Any discussion of race or unit balance should be done here only. All other forums should take the mentality of the game is 100% balanced. And any attempts to derail with balance discussion should be addressed/redirected via a mod. This would allow one specific area for balance discussion and leave everywhere else to productive and healthy discussion. The strategy section should be an area for strategic advice. It's all about trying things out and finding what works for you. It should not be a golden singular answer. Where the strategy section and even several threads in sc2 general has turned into a joke is from the imba imba responses. I love TL and want to see it remain the top non-Korean SC resource. I'm pretty sure that the idea is to have players at a certain skill level, not a certain post count. There would still be a strategy forum for everyone else, there'd just be another one for people to see what pro-level players think. Absolutely agree about balance whining, but that's not really on-topic (and there's that whole stupid auto-reply of 'whining about whining' but I digress). | ||
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will.pity
Australia89 Posts
The only hurdle is making sure a user can only thumbs down a post once. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
Just because the response isn't in the actual thread itself doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. Too many trolls, man. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
And reading the posts from the big names always makes me feel giddy. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
I thought that SC2 will suck hardcore but maybe I was little bit close minded at start. Now I watch GSL( only this for SC2 ) whenever I can . In my opinion the game aint that bad as i thought it would be but infact its really good ( not at the lvl of BW for me right now ) and got unlimited potential to be even better than BW. The game from a spectating point of view is interesting but in a different way from BW because of the game engine and its a different game duh. I love the races especially the zerg with the new Queen and the protoss aint half bad with the warp . Terran.... well marauders are imba with stim + slow shells. I think you need only one of those abilites or do the stim more HP consuming that its right now. The balance is preety good for a new game and the only thing thats terrible I think are the maps and Blizzard greedy way of trying to exploit the game to the max. Like selling 3 copies of the full game is not enough and needing more copies to play on and tons of other stuff that I dont have time to count right now because im going to sleep so I can watch GSL tomorow ! | ||
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vakiha
Canada20 Posts
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s4m222
United States272 Posts
Beginners strategy. (if your fairly new or not sure where to put it, put it here) Advanced Strategy. It would at least begin to filter it a bit. TL is getting to large to stay on 1 SC2 strat section.... | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On December 07 2010 12:17 SkelA wrote: Well just an opinion from a " die hard " BW fan here. Just for the record I dont play SC2 . I thought that SC2 will suck hardcore but maybe I was little bit close minded at start. Now I watch GSL( only this for SC2 ) whenever I can . In my opinion the game aint that bad as i thought it would be but infact its really good ( not at the lvl of BW for me right now ) and got unlimited potential to be even better than BW. The game from a spectating point of view is interesting but in a different way from BW because of the game engine and its a different game duh. I love the races especially the zerg with the new Queen and the protoss aint half bad with the warp . Terran.... well marauders are imba with stim + slow shells. I think you need only one of those abilites or do the stim more HP consuming that its right now. The balance is preety good for a new game and the only thing thats terrible I think are the maps and Blizzard greedy way of trying to exploit the game to the max. Like selling 3 copies of the full game is not enough and needing more copies to play on and tons of other stuff that I dont have time to count right now because im going to sleep so I can watch GSL tomorow ! Did you post in the wrong thread? | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Kazang
578 Posts
I voted Yes, but really it would probably fail due to lack of quantity and then quality. A reputation system or simple up/down vote for posts would go a long way to improving at least the readability of the threads, even if there is a lot of rubbish it can be easily skipped past. | ||
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aquanda
United States477 Posts
On December 07 2010 11:52 Eliezar wrote: Hi Aquanda... There is a huge disconnect between what a 2200 diamond player can do and a true elite/pro player. That's why certain builds work for pros and seem to have so many holes against solid (1800-2200) diamond players. And yes, that's what teams are for its doubtful that you would find too much quality here. I remember spending late, late nights with the aBs guys and Hurkyl on the GX server and working on the perfect timings in TvP on both sides. For all the discussion it was a lot more games. I think this is much more of how you find the progamming teams play. One person will just play extremely standard and solid and the other will keep trying different strategies to find a hole in it. (or vice versa) Obviously with replays now you can just pause the replay and see where someone is at a certain point and then try using builds to beat the timer to get the unit combo you want when you would need it verse that build. Yah I think you misread what I was saying. I actually meant there is a huge difference between high diamond and pros. And there is also a huge difference between silver and high diamond. The level of skill involved going from from silver->high diamond->pro is very large each jump, but I doubt any pros will utilize a forum, even if it's designed for them. The people I would expect to use the forum are the high level diamond players who don't really have aspirations to go professional, but are still very good. | ||
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iloveBankai
Australia50 Posts
the biggest difference i have noticed between good and bad players is how solid the strategies are | ||
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Lockindal
United States73 Posts
edit for clarity: a help forum, a general discussion forum, and a build order forum. I wouldnt mind seeing a "top players only" forum but as others have said i do not think it would work. A lot of the times the best strategies are come up by people that are really bad at the game and just take pro implementation to work. | ||
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