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Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
December 04 2010 11:31 GMT
#1621
On December 04 2010 20:03 decaf wrote:
LMFAO at FG
We can't fg medivacs anymore (and obviously any other air unit)
Since ZvZ should turn into Mass Mutas I want my scourges back!

• Fixed an issue where Larva could produce units by holding down hotkeys.
You gotta be kidding, that was considered an issue ??? If I want to produce 40 Roaches I gotta press 'R' 40 times now? - LOL


Ofc.
If toss wants to build 40 zealots, they have to click "w" , "z", "click" 40 times!
If Terran wants to build 40 marines they have to click "a" 40 times.

I dont see why this problem is zerg specific in any way
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
SC2Real
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany184 Posts
December 04 2010 11:31 GMT
#1622
as protoss i like the phoenix, voidray and hallu changes.

but the fungal change seems crappy :S
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
December 04 2010 11:31 GMT
#1623
Void Ray change why?
What was wrong with Fungal on air units?
Those sound pretty stupid IMO.

Indestructible meatshield with autorepair and medivacs?
- gotta try it out
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
December 04 2010 11:32 GMT
#1624
Just give Flux vanes and air-fungaling back and for once, everyone will be happy
AoD
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
December 04 2010 11:33 GMT
#1625
Finally something interesting. Although we protoss are so used to getting nerved we take pretty much anything now :D

Lets see how this works out.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
December 04 2010 11:33 GMT
#1626
If Terran wants to build 40 marines they have to click "a" 40 times.

Terran too can hold button for 3-4 Barracks with reactors and mass marines very fast.

Zerg need to put hotkey 2-3 more times... and they have alltime injects, overlords, creep tumors.. again injects, again tumors, again lings, etc
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 11:39:43
December 04 2010 11:33 GMT
#1627
On December 04 2010 20:07 GhostFall wrote:
Phoenix build time decreased from 45 to 35.
VERY VERY unnecessary and actually lowers the skill ceiling of PvZ. The idea is that when phoenix's come out against 5 mutas, the protoss player should have the micro to keep his phoenix alive. You haven't been seeing this, but as players get better this is what will happen. With this change, the reward for keeping the phoenix alive is lessened. the skillful play is being nerfed here. This is one I hope doesn't make it out of testing.


Eh? You can apply that logic to pretty much any balance change ever made (and it would still be wrong).

The idea here is that what Protoss need are exactly tweaks in tech and timings to make a greater variety of builds and strategies viable. The idea was never that Protoss should have great multitasking and micro to make Phoenix even worth getting - that was the actual problem.
traca
Profile Joined October 2010
146 Posts
December 04 2010 11:33 GMT
#1628
the only thing that has something related to the all inish trend is the bunker construction time
Keype
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden455 Posts
December 04 2010 11:33 GMT
#1629
This is big! wow hope they making it avaible for europe soon!
Tornado Terran Fighting!
MaDBread
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany66 Posts
December 04 2010 11:35 GMT
#1630
Plunder Island! oh the good old wc3 times... AND yeah phoenix buff
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
December 04 2010 11:36 GMT
#1631
I'm a 2k random and most of the adjustments are great. But phoenix buff, fungal growth nerf and the macro impediment are just awful.

I'll always play stargate openings in PvZ in the next patch. It won't be possible for the Zerg to kill the phoenixes. I'll be able to mass them without any disadvantage.

As I know Blizzard, they will fully implement these changes. In that case, the next version number won't last long.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
December 04 2010 11:37 GMT
#1632
EXTREME GRAPHICS settings now avaliable..

is nobody excited about this?

What does it mean? Better and more handsome graphics in what way??? :D

Custom hotkeys !!!

Do we get shared/MP replays with this patch ?
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Almania
Profile Joined September 2010
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 11:39:51
December 04 2010 11:39 GMT
#1633
On December 04 2010 20:31 Sewi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 20:03 decaf wrote:
LMFAO at FG
We can't fg medivacs anymore (and obviously any other air unit)
Since ZvZ should turn into Mass Mutas I want my scourges back!

• Fixed an issue where Larva could produce units by holding down hotkeys.
You gotta be kidding, that was considered an issue ??? If I want to produce 40 Roaches I gotta press 'R' 40 times now? - LOL


Ofc.
If toss wants to build 40 zealots, they have to click "w" , "z", "click" 40 times!
If Terran wants to build 40 marines they have to click "a" 40 times.

I dont see why this problem is zerg specific in any way


It does sadden me that all races have a need to swarm.

But this really isn't raising any skill cap. Or slow Zerg's late game. It's just annoying.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1982 Posts
December 04 2010 11:40 GMT
#1634
On December 04 2010 20:31 Sewi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 20:03 decaf wrote:
LMFAO at FG
We can't fg medivacs anymore (and obviously any other air unit)
Since ZvZ should turn into Mass Mutas I want my scourges back!

• Fixed an issue where Larva could produce units by holding down hotkeys.
You gotta be kidding, that was considered an issue ??? If I want to produce 40 Roaches I gotta press 'R' 40 times now? - LOL


Ofc.
If toss wants to build 40 zealots, they have to click "w" , "z", "click" 40 times!
If Terran wants to build 40 marines they have to click "a" 40 times.

I dont see why this problem is zerg specific in any way


Uh, because Zerg has larvae inject and tons of hatches all being injected lategame?
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
December 04 2010 11:41 GMT
#1635
Will be interesting to see what of these changes will make it live. This looks like quite a protoss patch!
here i am
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
December 04 2010 11:41 GMT
#1636
The game will end in a tie for all remaining players if no players have income, production, or destroyed any structures for three consecutive minutes.

doesnt this mean all games will be ties?? :s
Always look on the bright side of life
DiZasteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Netherlands84 Posts
December 04 2010 11:41 GMT
#1637
On December 04 2010 20:31 Sewi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 20:03 decaf wrote:
LMFAO at FG
We can't fg medivacs anymore (and obviously any other air unit)
Since ZvZ should turn into Mass Mutas I want my scourges back!

• Fixed an issue where Larva could produce units by holding down hotkeys.
You gotta be kidding, that was considered an issue ??? If I want to produce 40 Roaches I gotta press 'R' 40 times now? - LOL


Ofc.
If toss wants to build 40 zealots, they have to click "w" , "z", "click" 40 times!
If Terran wants to build 40 marines they have to click "a" 40 times.

I dont see why this problem is zerg specific in any way

Terran can hold down keys to produce units. So can protoss but not if you use the warp gate mechanic. But the warp gate mechanic gives you an advantage by lowering the "spawn rate" of units and allowing for warpin anywhere. So why would zerg need to click a button 50 times lategame while toss can click maybe 12 times and terran can hold a button for 1 second?
qoolqop
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden71 Posts
December 04 2010 11:42 GMT
#1638
Remember when fungal had a missile animation?

at around 1.20

get this back and make it hit air again, all will be good.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
December 04 2010 11:42 GMT
#1639
On December 04 2010 20:33 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
If Terran wants to build 40 marines they have to click "a" 40 times.

Terran too can hold button for 3-4 Barracks with reactors and mass marines very fast.

Zerg need to put hotkey 2-3 more times... and they have alltime injects, overlords, creep tumors.. again injects, again tumors, again lings, etc


No they cannot do this anymore.

It is completetly the same now.

Zerg has to select their hotkey for hatcheries, select all larva and press 40 times to get 40 roaches
Terran has to selcect their hotkey for barraks, press a 40 times to get 40 marines.

This makes up to 42 clicks for zerg and 41 for terran. Not that much of a difference imo
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
December 04 2010 11:43 GMT
#1640
On December 04 2010 20:31 Sewi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 20:03 decaf wrote:
LMFAO at FG
We can't fg medivacs anymore (and obviously any other air unit)
Since ZvZ should turn into Mass Mutas I want my scourges back!

• Fixed an issue where Larva could produce units by holding down hotkeys.
You gotta be kidding, that was considered an issue ??? If I want to produce 40 Roaches I gotta press 'R' 40 times now? - LOL


Ofc.
If toss wants to build 40 zealots, they have to click "w" , "z", "click" 40 times!
If Terran wants to build 40 marines they have to click "a" 40 times.

I dont see why this problem is zerg specific in any way


Cause you ever build that many rines/zealots at a time, mhm..
Zerg is meant to lose huge amounts of armies and rebuild them quickly. They just removed the 'quickly'.
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