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RiceMuncher
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia138 Posts
November 30 2010 12:52 GMT
#61
try being on a final table in a $180 live tourney. Or in the bubble.
Its intense
ScythedBlade
Profile Joined May 2010
308 Posts
November 30 2010 12:54 GMT
#62
I used to have this anxiety too. Then I managed to fix it:

Instead of "caring" about your ladder, think of the ladder as just your "high score". Meanwhile, take every ladder game as practice. Just go into 1v1 as "Oh, I want to practice some hand speed". Don't go into it thinking I lose, or I win. It's more like, practicing as if you were under real circumstances~
exitusnow1
Profile Joined November 2010
23 Posts
November 30 2010 12:59 GMT
#63
i have this problem currently in sc2/back in sc1 and in super street fighter 4. the cure for it is to play a TON and everygame have the mindset of "this game means nothing". after about 1000 games i got past the nerves and adrenaline and started to play calm and improve. when i first started sf4 on the pc and finished my online record was about 1000-1500 games with maybe 200wins (something like that i dont have it installed on this pc trust me tho its terrible).

The same goes for starcraft but for me personally i feel sc2 takes so much effort out of me in just even one game that i dont care to play the 1000 games or whatever to fix it. i maybe play 1-2 games a week but watch sc2 everyday (streams//gsl) for hours. So if your able to play over and over with your nerves then you should easily over come them. I have read a thread here tho about how the adrenaline and nerve issues while playing and sitting for a long time is extremely bad for your health so try and take your games slow with no care in the world to keep calm.
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
November 30 2010 13:03 GMT
#64
play more you'll get over it bit by bit. sorry but that's it.
ESV Mapmaking!
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
November 30 2010 13:08 GMT
#65
Try just losing a ton of games on purpose. Just insta leave like 10 games in a row. You need to get used to the idea that losing is normal and that your ladder rank means nothing. Only then you'll be free to become great.
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
November 30 2010 13:17 GMT
#66
On November 30 2010 18:51 crappen wrote:So the real question for me is, what does the pro do? I saw Jinro was pretty nervous at MLG, having really cold hand (although it was pretty fucking cold there as well). But at GSL f.ex, you see pros so calm, Nestea seems to relax even being under 0-2 in the finals. How does he do this?
More important, how can I/we start to incorporate this kind of mental relaxasation that these guys can do in the worlds most competive sc2 scene?


im sure a lot of them are using beta blockers and benzos for events that important
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 30 2010 13:21 GMT
#67
On November 30 2010 17:25 Animostas wrote:
Something Day9 said that really worked for me is to just say out loud, "I am fucking TERRIFIED of laddering." and then just hitting the Find Match button.


This actually works for me too. I got hella anxious when I first realized your Win/Loss ratio would be emblazoned on a giant fucking plaque that everyone would see.
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Gorguts
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada254 Posts
November 30 2010 13:29 GMT
#68
all you have to do is realize you are GOING TO LOSE A LOT! no matter how good you are, even the best pros have a lot of losses. Very, very few have over a 70% ratio.


Look: http://sc2ranks.com/

7/10 of the top 10 ladder players in the world have between 52%-56% ratios!!


if all of your games were n00bs that you steamrolled, you wouldn't get much better. losing teaches you tons about the game, you just have to come back stronger after each loss.
Lalgee
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom65 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 13:39:16
November 30 2010 13:38 GMT
#69
I used to have the exact same problem as in the OP. The way I dealt with it was just by having one build for each matchup for a while, that I would just do over and over. This really helped me reduce the importance of each match in my head. I also started playing the occassional ESL tournament, which further dampened the importance on ranked 1v1 matches. The "just play" attitude won't work for people with this problem, you just have to become like a robot, and perform the same 3 builds over and over for a while. If nothing else, it actually becomes quite interesting trying to adapt to all the different timing pushes your build faces. I enjoy playing like this more than trying to adapt to what my opponent is doing constantly, playing like that is just so draining. Furthermore, nobody will want to watch their replays for 2 hours when they are just doing the same thing over and over

Now I can easily play 40 games in a day, and haven't had a day where I've played less than 20 games in about a month!
"That's Lal-Genius"
machination
Profile Joined September 2010
United States175 Posts
November 30 2010 13:43 GMT
#70
Ladders do reset regularly (first reset is Q1 2011 I believe), so those numbers aren't permanent.

I had an issue with ladder anxiety a while back, but have now played close to 1000 ladder games across all brackets. For me it was about realizing that caring about W:L ratio on ladder over improving your skill and ability to play the game at a continuously higher level is pointless.
PROJECTILE
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
November 30 2010 13:45 GMT
#71
On November 30 2010 22:17 Skew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 18:51 crappen wrote:So the real question for me is, what does the pro do? I saw Jinro was pretty nervous at MLG, having really cold hand (although it was pretty fucking cold there as well). But at GSL f.ex, you see pros so calm, Nestea seems to relax even being under 0-2 in the finals. How does he do this?
More important, how can I/we start to incorporate this kind of mental relaxasation that these guys can do in the worlds most competive sc2 scene?


im sure a lot of them are using beta blockers and benzos for events that important

I'm still totally surprised that people with nerve issues haven't investigated these types of things. If I were playing competitively I would totally be all over beta blockers.
anfionn
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland28 Posts
November 30 2010 13:47 GMT
#72
I got placed in Platinum, then some poor games, dropped to Gold, then 2 bad games, now silver.

I no longer have nerves, the worst has happened

And its not so bad!

NB: 80% win ratio in silver, I will crawl back!
How did I defeat the killbots, simple, I sent wave after wave of my own men
tuukster
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland114 Posts
November 30 2010 13:48 GMT
#73
Lots of people fear losing, because to them it means failure. "I'm gonna be remembered for the rest of my life for losing to this guy..." Losing is just another opportunity for you to learn something. Don't try to win your matches, try to learn something from them. When you've learned enough, winning will become an outcome of your learning process.

When you lose and learn that there are things you need to work on, I suggest you pick just one thing. In StarCraft, it's too easy to see ALL the mistakes you made due to replays and such. That can make you feel miserable and powerless, so it's better to just pick ONE and work on it until it's fixed.

I'm certain that if people stopped watching replays of themselves, they wouldn't feel so stressed out. When you constantly go over your mistakes again and again, it's no wonder that people don't wanna play anymore, since playing a game will almost become a synonyme for "making mistakes". Watching replays is of course a very powerful tool for learning, but I'm sure that most people already know what they did wrong right after the match ends. No need to watch the replay afterwards.

I also gotta emphasize the importance of practice. The anxiety mostly comes from the feeling that you don't know what's gonna happen. Well, you can't control what the opponent is gonna do, but you can sure as hell decide what you are gonna do. If you feel insecure about your gameplay, then go practice! Build orders, micro and macro mechanics, etc... Confidence in your own play will make the anxiety go away.
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
November 30 2010 13:52 GMT
#74
There is no failure in Starcraft, only defeat. Through defeat you can learn to achieve victory.
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
Zumms
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30 Posts
November 30 2010 13:58 GMT
#75
I know alot of people that just watch streams all day and don't actually play the game. If you are watching more starcraft than playing then there is a problem, in my opinion. I used to be scared about playing starcraft until Day[9] helped me a bit. He said to just step out side of you and just look at yourself. Why are you actually intimidated to play this game? Just relax.
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
November 30 2010 14:04 GMT
#76
"There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquored."

I recommend playing more often - and if time does not permit, at least play consistently throughout the week. You'll eventually lose the fear of losing. Because you're going to lose a lot regardless of your rank, the only option is to get used to it.

That being said, it's just a game. Realize that your record don't mean shit and nobody cares but you about it. (in all seriousness, nobody cares about your record but you) With that in mind, you should feel confident and enjoy playing StarCraft.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
November 30 2010 14:04 GMT
#77
On November 30 2010 22:08 blizzind wrote:
Try just losing a ton of games on purpose. Just insta leave like 10 games in a row. You need to get used to the idea that losing is normal and that your ladder rank means nothing. Only then you'll be free to become great.


What bad advice. And then what rinse and repeat?
It's perfectly ok to care about winning or loosing and even about your rank even if it's just an illusion. Anxiety comes from not knowing what's going to happen that's why knowing strategy and reading your opponent is so important. There is nothing worse than to get rolled and not understand why and what lead to that point. Once you know what's going on and you know you are in control of your situation, playing with a goal, be that a certain timing for instance, your brain will focus.

I see this alot with players that are clearly worse than their opponent, they get nervous even in the most casual practice environment. What they should be doing is focus on what's going on and learn from that experience. There is simply nothing better to get stomped by a very strong refined push. You note the timing, you learn how to defeat it / hold it and you will be surprised how next time someone tries the exact same push on you only not that refined you crush it.

Worst case scenario in any game is you learn something new.
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 14:08:32
November 30 2010 14:07 GMT
#78
"74-37" is fucking good with this system, if you play your best every game... if you lost 30 games then started playing real then that's another matter but I don't think you did? 80% on war3 woulda been pretty good too in the newer AMM system.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
Cerebrate.Monthly
Profile Joined November 2010
United States21 Posts
November 30 2010 14:36 GMT
#79
I had a similar anxiety in any game that I played with a permanent record, even trying to cruising channels to pick my fights against players that I could confidently beat in Iccup to inflate my e-peen just a little bit (guilty). I thought I was completely over my glass ego after cementing the realization that I was only a sub-par player once I began mass gaming in Brood War... but it somehow cropped up in SC2 as well. With a similar win ratio to you after my first 50 games, I found myself trying to optimize being in 'perfect condition' before pushing the quick match button... sometimes only playing 1 ladder game every few days while playing like 30 Custom games to 'warm up'.

My Cure was this: I literally tanked my record by quitting out of a TON of games (biting my lip a bit as this was something drastic) then did a quick climb through the lower MMR matches as a sort of smurf. It took about 100 games to get to playing similarly skilled players that I was being matched with before and ever since then I have no anxiety because I know I already took the importance of the 'record' out of the equation for myself.

Force yourself to play for 'enjoyment', not for some e-pride and I personally will guarantee you will like the game a lot more (Screw what people think )
"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love." -Day[9]
AlexDeLarge
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania218 Posts
November 30 2010 14:49 GMT
#80
jack off before laddering. you won't have a care in the world
Its only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
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