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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
December 02 2010 21:55 GMT
#261
CatZ just lost all his banelings without killing almost anything because of your technique. I hate it, i wanted to see a lot of workers turned to green goo :-/
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
December 02 2010 22:16 GMT
#262
On December 03 2010 06:55 Morfildur wrote:
CatZ just lost all his banelings without killing almost anything because of your technique. I hate it, i wanted to see a lot of workers turned to green goo :-/

Got a replay?
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
December 02 2010 22:33 GMT
#263
On December 03 2010 07:16 CherubDown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 06:55 Morfildur wrote:
CatZ just lost all his banelings without killing almost anything because of your technique. I hate it, i wanted to see a lot of workers turned to green goo :-/

Got a replay?


Was on his live Stream, so i don't have a replay.
Xylocaine
Profile Joined November 2010
France56 Posts
December 02 2010 23:38 GMT
#264
On December 02 2010 06:56 Clamps wrote:He worried that you might pull a worker holding a xel'naga tower open. This actually wont happen, the game considers the act of holding a xel'naga open a valid and continuing action


Nice to know, but another little tip: sometimes I have drones scattered around (for ex. hidden in a corner of the enemy base or something) and what I do so that they don't come up on my "idle workers" list (so that if I actually do have an idle worker, I don't miss it...) is just make them patrol over half a millimiter. Counts as a continuous action too, and keeps them off the list ;p

(Sorry if this has been posted yet, couldn't bother read anything but the first 2 and last 2 pages)
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
December 03 2010 06:39 GMT
#265
On November 27 2010 22:55 Skeyser wrote:
Sounds great for pros, but way too apm heavy for us mere mortals ^^

What are you talking about? I used to single click spread all of my workers in like 6 seconds with 120 apm. It's about precision, not click speed.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
December 03 2010 06:49 GMT
#266
On December 03 2010 15:39 Reasonable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 22:55 Skeyser wrote:
Sounds great for pros, but way too apm heavy for us mere mortals ^^

What are you talking about? I used to single click spread all of my workers in like 6 seconds with 120 apm. It's about precision, not click speed.

Yes! Even though precision improves as APM does, this is somewhat true. The box and split is a more natural reaction to helion dropping, and this may take some time for the community to adapt to. I guess this would be best against helions once you get used to it, but again it's going to be hard to adapt to such a weird tactic.
Nonetheless, good find and keep it up!
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Jedimonky
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
December 03 2010 20:39 GMT
#267
On December 03 2010 06:13 Phantasy wrote:
I tried this the other day and with there being 30+ drones its VERY time consuming and it is insanely hard to get back on track or do anything beside spamming drone movement. You will lose all macro and any chance of even trying to micro vs hellions or banes.
2500~ diamond zerg
- you are better off manually selecting to try to get around splash damage units.


Not to be rude but i don't think you are doing it correctly then. A guy posted early that if you click ctrl + F1 it selects all the idle workers that you just spread out. Also you dont necessarily have to spread them across the map. Just spread them out in your base the key is moving them away from the hellion without lining them up so that the hellion can get a large multi-kill on the hellions. Although I am ashamed of how I played later in the game(kept having distractions), I used this technique to great effect in a game without ever having tried it before. The OP actually added to the rep to the OP.

btw in the rep i didn't know about the ctrl+F1 trick and my econ took minimal damage... It is better to lose mining time rather than the miner.
Jedimonky
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
December 03 2010 20:42 GMT
#268
On December 03 2010 15:49 TriniMasta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 15:39 Reasonable wrote:
On November 27 2010 22:55 Skeyser wrote:
Sounds great for pros, but way too apm heavy for us mere mortals ^^

What are you talking about? I used to single click spread all of my workers in like 6 seconds with 120 apm. It's about precision, not click speed.

Yes! Even though precision improves as APM does, this is somewhat true. The box and split is a more natural reaction to helion dropping, and this may take some time for the community to adapt to. I guess this would be best against helions once you get used to it, but again it's going to be hard to adapt to such a weird tactic.
Nonetheless, good find and keep it up!



I would argue that "effective APM" improves as precision improves... just a side note to the actual discussion.
Valestrum
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
December 03 2010 23:57 GMT
#269
This looks epic, i'll have to try it soon.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
coko
Profile Joined November 2002
United Kingdom570 Posts
December 04 2010 12:04 GMT
#270
Didn't we see Ret do this in one of his games? I swear that he avoided the hellions with almost zero loses doing it in the Meta map.
Almania
Profile Joined September 2010
145 Posts
December 05 2010 04:10 GMT
#271
If patch 1.2.0 goes live as is, you won't be able to hold down F1 to do this trick.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 03:18:39
December 05 2010 05:33 GMT
#272
On December 05 2010 13:10 Almania wrote:
If patch 1.2.0 goes live as is, you won't be able to hold down F1 to do this trick.

This does seem to be the case. Rats. Oh well, it's not too difficult to alternate the buttons.

edit: Nevermind, the change was reverted. Rejoice!
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
December 08 2010 03:17 GMT
#273
I must say I hate the OP and love him at the same time.
My hellions are less useful while banelings on my scvs are less effective.
Sorry I play with a zerg practice partner a lot. Our workers did have a very high life expectancy.
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threehundred
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada911 Posts
December 08 2010 03:53 GMT
#274
thanks i love you
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GreatestThreat
Profile Joined May 2010
United States631 Posts
July 30 2011 03:53 GMT
#275
I felt like now would be a good time to necro this old thread. For all those currently watching MLG you may have an idea why

Severian splits, guys. Before you start calling blueflame hellions OP in the live report threads.
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Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
July 30 2011 03:55 GMT
#276
Ye or else 37 drones goes GG SlayerS Fighting!
Stim Go Go GO!
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
July 30 2011 03:56 GMT
#277
this thread is golden. especially for those zergs in MLG right now xD
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Xation
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada147 Posts
July 30 2011 03:59 GMT
#278
It would be really handy if a Zerg from MLG saw this right now. Cmon Sheth!
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Ldooder
Profile Joined March 2011
United States28 Posts
July 30 2011 04:01 GMT
#279
ZergSlayerS

I tried this technique before though I lacked in having the correct spread to the hellions
I am a bumb
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 30 2011 04:10 GMT
#280
While you are spamming f1 all over the place, your zerglings and queens are ding, you are not macroing, and when it's over your drones are all over the place >_>
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