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nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
December 01 2010 07:57 GMT
#241
Sweet tactic could make a huge difference in some games (especially as im been blue flame hellion dropped a lot since dreamhack)
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 15:41:14
December 01 2010 15:22 GMT
#242
On November 30 2010 20:24 pirates wrote:
Burrow :>

Actually, even if you burrow, the enemy can still swoop around the line and attack the hatchery or larvae and the splash will damage the drones.
Jedimonky
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
December 01 2010 15:53 GMT
#243
This actually worked surprisingly well for me. I hadn't even practiced it or tried it before. I was in the middle of a game and saw a drop coming and as soon as I saw the hellions I started to just grab my probes and run and then i remember this...so i hit s held down F1 and spammed around my base. I went and watched the replay later. I only lost 5 probes to 3 hellions. 250 minerals vs the 300 minerals for the hellions. Which I think is really good for deciding to do it on the spot. Great idea!
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
December 01 2010 16:06 GMT
#244
Jedimonky, can you submit a replay? I'd love to see it in action.
Proto_Protoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States495 Posts
December 01 2010 16:18 GMT
#245
This sounds amazing i cant wait to use it hopefully i'll remember when the time comes! Thanks alot
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ArcNatural
Profile Joined September 2010
United States13 Posts
December 01 2010 18:35 GMT
#246
I feel like this is potentially metagame changing. Especially for ZvZ. Is this the change we have been looking for to end baneling wars? If this gains more speed it makes banelings only good for army comps and surprise drops.
Jedimonky
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
December 01 2010 18:46 GMT
#247
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/111208-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns

Here is the rep CherubDown. I'll be honest I played terrible later in the game. I kept getting distracted because I was listening to the SotG podcast and apparently shockwave crashed and decided I needed to know twice. So twice starcraft was minimized and I was just not focused later in the game. Hope this shows the potential of this technique.

... How does "severing" your workers sound as a name....lol :D
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
December 01 2010 18:54 GMT
#248
Niiiiiice. Holding down F1 definitely makes this easy to do with even mediocre APM. I'll be using this in ZvZ and ZvT for sure.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
December 01 2010 18:59 GMT
#249
I should have used this yesterday against my friend. Some blue flame hellions were in my base, and like the noob I am, I grabbed all my workers and moved them, thus resulting in many of them burning. He would have not known what to do if I did the split thing.
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Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
December 01 2010 19:11 GMT
#250
On December 02 2010 03:54 Uranium wrote:
Niiiiiice. Holding down F1 definitely makes this easy to do with even mediocre APM. I'll be using this in ZvZ and ZvT for sure.

but, there're no hellions in zvz? o.O

Nice strat though, will use it.
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Penke
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden346 Posts
December 01 2010 19:21 GMT
#251
On December 02 2010 04:11 Liveon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 03:54 Uranium wrote:
Niiiiiice. Holding down F1 definitely makes this easy to do with even mediocre APM. I'll be using this in ZvZ and ZvT for sure.

but, there're no hellions in zvz? o.O

Nice strat though, will use it.


This maneuver is great against banelings in your mineral line as well :D
Kokkan
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden83 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 19:33:41
December 01 2010 19:24 GMT
#252
On November 28 2010 01:13 Spiffeh wrote:
Right after boxing them you may want to bind them to 9 or 0 to make it easier to start mining again.


There is no time to do this.
But a simple CTRL+F1 will select allt he Idle Probes once they stopped.


The issue I can see is with large groups of workers 20-26 perhaps.You will then have to click as amny times as probes, during that time they will be frozen by STOP and take hits.

I think
1. BOX
2. STOP
3. F1 spam in Mini-Map is the fastest way to perform this.


Depending on the situation it can be great or to much effort.
Jedimonky
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
December 01 2010 19:46 GMT
#253
On December 02 2010 03:59 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I should have used this yesterday against my friend. Some blue flame hellions were in my base, and like the noob I am, I grabbed all my workers and moved them, thus resulting in many of them burning. He would have not known what to do if I did the split thing.



That isn't a noob thing to do yet... This is still new. Most pros still just box and move. Maybe more efficiently but until this thread that was the best way to save workers.
Jedimonky
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
December 01 2010 19:49 GMT
#254
On December 02 2010 04:24 Kokkan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 01:13 Spiffeh wrote:
Right after boxing them you may want to bind them to 9 or 0 to make it easier to start mining again.


There is no time to do this.
But a simple CTRL+F1 will select allt he Idle Probes once they stopped.



I did not know that. I will have to remember that next time I do this. Thanks for the tip. fyi I hadn't been hotkeying all my probes because I have only used this once. I just did it and the control clicked one of the probes and got them back to mining. (all the probes where still near my main nexus)
Gobbles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada91 Posts
December 01 2010 20:20 GMT
#255
I think this is fantastic and I am happy Terran player because so many fools fools are trying to poo poo it for being micro intensive. Very nice find. I am definitely going to be doing this. A little micro vs rebuilding miners?, that question requires no thought.
You already said spite
CherubDown
Profile Joined August 2010
United States171 Posts
December 01 2010 21:56 GMT
#256
And it shall be named "The Severian Maneuver!"
Clamps
Profile Joined May 2010
66 Posts
December 01 2010 21:56 GMT
#257
This may have been mentioned already but just to correct a point in the OP. He worried that you might pull a worker holding a xel'naga tower open.

This actually wont happen, the game considers the act of holding a xel'naga open a valid and continuing action, so the worker isn't idle.


Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
December 01 2010 23:41 GMT
#258
I've added Jedimonky's replay to the OP. Thanks!

On December 02 2010 06:56 Clamps wrote:
This may have been mentioned already but just to correct a point in the OP. He worried that you might pull a worker holding a xel'naga tower open.

This actually wont happen, the game considers the act of holding a xel'naga open a valid and continuing action, so the worker isn't idle.

Thanks, I didn't know this. I've edited the OP with that correction.
Sholoshka
Profile Joined October 2010
United States60 Posts
December 02 2010 17:42 GMT
#259
Wow,

Yesterday I got totally rolled over because of a well timed blue-flame hellion harass. This is so useful and I'll be using this in the future no doubt.
Phantasy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States16 Posts
December 02 2010 21:13 GMT
#260
I tried this the other day and with there being 30+ drones its VERY time consuming and it is insanely hard to get back on track or do anything beside spamming drone movement. You will lose all macro and any chance of even trying to micro vs hellions or banes.
2500~ diamond zerg
- you are better off manually selecting to try to get around splash damage units.
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