EPTOn March 30 2011 01:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why does it occur?
Why does it occur?
You got your ass kicked so hard that you lost three million points, obviously.
But seriously, I'd like to know this too, I've seen it in other profiles too.
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
You got your ass kicked so hard that you lost three million points, obviously. But seriously, I'd like to know this too, I've seen it in other profiles too. | ||
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
On March 30 2011 01:45 Excalibur_Z wrote: So yeah this is definitely an anomaly, not something that's common but also not unheard of. I think we've seen this only a couple of times previously. The decimal is not actually a decimal, the e in the number stands for exponent 10. So what could say 3.359e-09 would actually be 3,359,295,195,749 or whatever. If it's e^-9 instead of e^9, then it's actually more like .000000003359 | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 30 2011 01:53 goiflin wrote: You got your ass kicked so hard that you lost three million points, obviously. But seriously, I'd like to know this too, I've seen it in other profiles too. Math isn't strong suit, is it? There's a decimal point man lolol | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12263 Posts
On March 30 2011 01:56 Vehemus wrote: If it's e^-9 instead of e^9, then it's actually more like .000000003359 Oh yeah you're right. e+09 would be a large number, e-09 would be a small one =] | ||
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Serejai
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 30 2011 02:42 Serejai wrote: Oops, cat on keyboard. Is that how you play your 3v3s? | ||
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Serejai
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 30 2011 02:52 Serejai wrote: Hey, my cat is master league. Leave her out of this. Can I do twos with her? D: | ||
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ranshaked
United States870 Posts
I had over a 50% win/loss ratio. I had lost a few games, but for the most part I've been at 50% for the past 3 weeks. I haven't played since the last patch aside from maybe 5 games. I lose my promotional match today, and to my surprise i was demoted that far...What gives? How can I sit at rank 1 for months, and then one match drop me that far? | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:25 ranshaked wrote: anyway can anyone explain why I sat at rank 1 gold for 2 months, and then lose one promotion match and I'm demoted to rank 86 silver...That is 186 spots. I had over a 50% win/loss ratio. I had lost a few games, but for the most part I've been at 50% for the past 3 weeks. I haven't played since the last patch aside from maybe 5 games. I lose my promotional match today, and to my surprise i was demoted that far...What gives? How can I sit at rank 1 for months, and then one match drop me that far? I posted this in another similar thread on this issue, but since this thread will probably survive longer, worth making the point here too -- in the bronze-platinum leagues, before the reset, the vast majority of players ranked below maybe the top 5 were inactive. Since all ranked players have been active in the last day, now, that is pretty much like taking those top people from each season 1 division and reorganizing them into 100-person divisions, while deleting all the people who have stopped playing. As for why you were demoted, probably your MMR was low enough to fall within the Silver league range but high enough not to qualify for a demotion before, or else you were on track to be demoted already but the system had not yet evaluated you for one. Since the ladder's being entirely reset, you're landing in a new spot based on MMR alone. | ||
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CubY
Germany93 Posts
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ranshaked
United States870 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:34 Lysenko wrote: I posted this in another similar thread on this issue, but since this thread will probably survive longer, worth making the point here too -- in the bronze-platinum leagues, before the reset, the vast majority of players ranked below maybe the top 5 were inactive. Since all ranked players have been active in the last day, now, that is pretty much like taking those top people from each season 1 division and reorganizing them into 100-person divisions, while deleting all the people who have stopped playing. As for why you were demoted, probably your MMR was low enough to fall within the Silver league range but high enough not to qualify for a demotion before, or else you were on track to be demoted already but the system had not yet evaluated you for one. Since the ladder's being entirely reset, you're landing in a new spot based on MMR alone. This ladder system is horrible. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:49 ranshaked wrote: This ladder system is horrible. The problem is that how you deal with inactive players is always going to be an issue. The bonus point system is intended to fix this by letting active players move past them, but when you have tens of thousands of players who play 5 placements and then lose interest in SC2, it's going to be an issue no matter what you do. I'm excited about this ladder reset because it means that I'm in a division full of active players now, most of whom probably won't stop playing if they haven't already. That should make ladder ranking a fairer indication of how everyone falls within the active player population. | ||
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Kyamo
Canada129 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:53 Lysenko wrote: I'm excited about this ladder reset because it means that I'm in a division full of active players now, most of whom probably won't stop playing if they haven't already. That should make ladder ranking a fairer indication of how everyone falls within the active player population. I dunno about that, you're right of course that a much higher percentage of the people in your division will be active, but I think there are quite a number of people who are "active" in the sense that they regularly play a few games, but don't play enough to use up their bonus pool. So I think there will still be the effect of the ranks within divisions just sorting by games played. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On March 30 2011 08:29 Kyamo wrote: I think there are quite a number of people who are "active" in the sense that they regularly play a few games, but don't play enough to use up their bonus pool. So I think there will still be the effect of the ranks within divisions just sorting by games played. That's true, but it's going to be far less of a profound effect in the lower divisions than it has been (where typically only the top 1 or 2 players in a division have used up their bonus points.) | ||
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Kyamo
Canada129 Posts
On March 19 2011 07:18 SDream wrote: Yeap, most platinum players are on A rank, for the same reason most diamond players are on E ranks. So I think we have a good chance to guess it right if we say these plat are A, and you're 3 tiers lower that, so you are probaly on an A rank Gold (remember: there are only 2 tiers on gold, the S and the A, 3 on platinum S-B). Starting the new season it won't be true anymore, so enjoy the knowleadge for the time being :D (that also mean you already have platinum (rank B) skill, so when the ladder reset you might start at platinum already) Your prediction came true, I placed Plat after my placement.  | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On March 30 2011 10:17 Kyamo wrote: Your prediction came true, I placed Plat after my placement. I got it right for a lot of my friends and myself  I knew I was a mediocre platinum and that there would be no way I'd be placed in gold nor diamond, whatever happens. Then what happens? I win against a diamond!! And get platinum anyway. It's all about MMR  | ||
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
Any way we can help figure out the new division tiers? I already know 100% of the diamond and platinum divisions tiers on Latin America server, not 100% confirmed though, I'll try to 100% confirm in 2-4 weeks when people get more points and 12/12 point games are not as rare as panda bear. I posted on Brazil-side Battle.net forum only because there are at least 2 players that care about it there and I am not sure if anyone here care about LA Anyway, it can be done, but the higher the number of players, the higher the number of divisions and then it will require massive help of the players themselves, it would have to be a project with engagement of the community, while on LA side I can do it all by myself. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12263 Posts
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