SC2 Ladder Analysis: Division Tiers - Page 42

On February 16 2011 04:31 random user wrote:
I don't think that the bonus pool has much to do with where you get promoted to.

If you look at the people on this list:

http://sc2ranks.com/div/71840/division-aiur-psi

I did a spot check and most of the people were promoted within the last 5 days. In addition, Blizzard increments their divisions more or less when they create new divisions, and this division number, 31735, is pretty high which indicates it's pretty new.

If you look on that page you'll see that the bonus pool varies greatly within the division.

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:

An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem.... The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot. If you look at it directly you won't see it unless you know precisely what it is. Your only hope is to catch it by surprise out of the corner of your eye.

The technology involved in making something properly invisible is so mind-bogglingly complex that 999,999,999 times out of a billion it's simpler just to take the thing away and do without it....... The "Somebody Else's Problem field" is much simpler, more effective, and "can be run for over a hundred years on a single torch battery."

This is because it relies on people's natural predisposition not to see anything they don't want to, weren't expecting, or can't explain.

How much you have spent will make a difference in the points your opponent gains or loses right?

On February 17 2011 08:37 DiDigital wrote:
In other words is the system creating more divisions because a lot of people are close to promotions, or is the system going to be less strict on promoting players in order to fill so many new spots? Or maybe a lot of people just bought the game in LA the last few weeks? lol

On February 17 2011 09:42 random user wrote:
Random stat of the day:

In the past 29 or so hours, of the top 500 semi-active gold players in NA server, approximately 41 of them (in other words about 8%) were promoted into plat. This sample size does not include anyone outside of the top 500.

Those 41 I found were put into 23 different divisions with the following distributions:

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Useful to anyone? Not sure. I decided to post this to give people some idea of how frequent promotion is within the top 500. I hope it's not too far off-topic; it seemed pretty much within the realm of division tiers to me.

On February 17 2011 09:54 random user wrote:
I wonder if my slice happened to just take a snapshot right when the division filled or something else is going on. You would think that barring an unlikely coincidence if the division filled there ought to be another division with a lot of people, or at least something higher than 2. Yet that didn't happen.

I had originally been thinking that you might be able to estimate the number of promotions/day based on the frequency of new divisions popping up, but given that data, I'm not sure you can say much of anything.

I'll take another snapshot tomorrow and see if there is anything interesting.

On February 17 2011 10:47 SDream wrote:


If we had the time of the promotions it could prove Khalis Yankee division to be on another tier then all the other. But as we don't, that could mean that the system first had to fill the "old" divisions for just then create a new one.

On February 13 2011 03:25 Excalibur_Z wrote:


The point loss wasn't 63 in all cases, it just was for me and a couple of other people. For the others who had exact match histories we had those jotted off to the side as unexplainable anomalies. It wasn't until Master league where we noticed the pattern that we were able to go back and see if it fit, which it did (which was very disappointing because it clouds all of the offsets). Because of that, we may not be able to find the offsets of the other leagues and their division tiers (we had to rely on the top 200 to get the ones we know).

On February 17 2011 12:03 Oconomist wrote:



Perhaps someone can explain this to me. It was discovered that your points reset to 73+Bonus pool when you change leagues. You mean this happens to other leagues and not just the diamond to master promotion?

Is this actually 73+ division offset + bonus pool? Because then I don't see why we cant easily figure out a Diamond division's offset by seeing what people's ratings are right when they come into the division and subtracting 73 and the bonus pool used (easier for the super active people, but doable for everyone)

There must be something I'm missing