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On November 17 2010 07:59 Shinkugami wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 07:57 misaTO wrote:
There is no easy way to get a hard copy of the game in english in my country. Could have been easily solved with a built in language option as every modern game has. You're supposing the angry legion of 14 years olds Blizz' was aiming at with SC2 (from WOW) are smart enough to speak another language... For instance on the EU version I frequently get raged at in obscure languages. That and the fact that the translations are friggin atrocious, as usual...
That's cuz you did not get the "neutral" spanish translation shovelled down your throat.
Reaper = Yum - Ki Mil. WTF THATS NOT EVEN SPANISH LOL
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I bet having no lan was a good though, eh?
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On November 17 2010 04:23 Treemonkeys wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours.. This is a good point, I used to pirate all the time when I was in high school and had no income. Yet some people will say this was "lost sales" when in reality I had no way of buying games.
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I can understand people wanting to pay money for games like SC2, but i will never pay a cent for movies/music when they are so easily available :D
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Companies need to stop touting piracy figures as 'potential sales' or 'money lost.' The reality is that 99% of the time, the person would never have bought the game in the first place.
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I pirated starcraft way way long ago.
I had zero intentions of buying the game because i had no interest in RTS and i had no money.
Anyways, me and my friends installed starcraft on all our high school computer lab computers, and a TON of people ( hundreds) started playing. I know for a fact at least 50% of those people bought the game for personal use at home, and later on i purchased a digital copy of broodwar, because it was just convenient to have.
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I downloaded Broodwar two times from those "illegal" sources since my original Broodwar-CD commited suicide and at that time you couldn't legally download it. I image that quite a few ppl did the same with SC2.
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Well, I don't know if these numbers include the beta version of it, because a lot of people dl'ed the beta to play against AI before to get invited into the beta, as they couldn't wait another minute to try the game...
I'm not saying I did, but... 
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On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours..
Thing is though that games are not a right, but a luxury. If you want to download games and movies then do so, but don't try to convince yourself that you have any kind of justifiable right to do so. And I'm not trying to put myself on some kind of moral high-ground here because I have downloaded plenty of games and movies, I just don't try to justify it.
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I think that, while being obviously illegal, in some cases piracy might even help videogames. This is different from movies and music, because nowadays games usually block many of their features from pirated copies, in SC2 it is multiplayer, in Civ5 the game sometimes crashes, some games' performance is horrible compared to the retail version, etc. This means that the pirate version sometimes acts as the now forgotten "demo", and the person the proceeds to buy the game. Obviously this applies for a limited amount of pirate game users, but I'm pretty sure game companies know and use this to their advantage. In music and movies it's a whole different deal, since you won't be playing those movies/music that many times, and you ain't missing on anything when compared to the retail product.
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You could download the game through pirate to get it sooner incase you're waiting for your own copy which essantially is only a bnet account with the licence and a link to download the game.
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I "pirated" the game seven times, I own the CE edition.
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On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours..
This is such warped thinking. It's not your right to have every game you want. I mean seriously, this line of thinking is immature beyond belief. If you can't afford it, then tough. That's life.
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I'd pirate the game in a second if there was cross realm play and lower latency in the pirated version.
And also, if you live somewhere poor, pirating is one of the only real ways you have to play a lot of games/watch films etc. Only people in rich countries are going to be indignant about this.
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On November 21 2010 02:06 oxxo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours.. This is such warped thinking. It's not your right to have every game you want. I mean seriously, this line of thinking is immature beyond belief. If you can't afford it, then tough. That's life.
Yea, you are so right.
Also, if you are not born in the USA and do not have the largest military in the world to back up whatever you want to do who fucking cares about you.... basically what you are saying is who cares you were born in a poor county, next life be born in a richer one SUCKER?!
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On November 21 2010 02:06 oxxo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours.. This is such warped thinking. It's not your right to have every game you want. I mean seriously, this line of thinking is immature beyond belief. If you can't afford it, then tough. That's life.
Jesus christ. It also isn't a persons right to have anything in life other then this
![[image loading]](http://www.girr.org/girr/girr/000822_tin_shack.jpg)
You honestly willing to condemn a man because hes seeking a similar standard of living albeit being born in a less privileged country, violating no law or other person besides one meant to protect the status quo for American stockholders?
Though honestly, that doesn't really vindicate responsibility from the pirates, mostly because most of them weren't born in areas with less privileged countries where money has less purchasing power on foreign goods. At least half of the pirates were probably stupid spoiled kids in an American suburbia somewhere. Seriously, get a job you fuckers.
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On November 17 2010 04:23 Treemonkeys wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours.. This is a good point, I used to pirate all the time when I was in high school and had no income. Yet some people will say this was "lost sales" when in reality I had no way of buying games.
It is "lost sales". They might have lost your sale, but I am sure 1 person out the 2.3 million would have bought it if pirating was not an option. And even 1 person is a lost sale.
To put it in perspective, say 5% of the people would have bought it if they couldn't get it for free:
2.3 million x 60 x .05 = 6.9 million in lost revenue. That is pretty significant.
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Here in Croatia the average salary is around 800$ a month, the game does not cost 60$ but 85$, and thats not the collectors edition, im not saying that makes it right to pirate the game, nor did I pirate it since I cant even run it, but I can see how people would.
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On November 21 2010 02:18 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 02:06 oxxo wrote:On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours.. This is such warped thinking. It's not your right to have every game you want. I mean seriously, this line of thinking is immature beyond belief. If you can't afford it, then tough. That's life. Yea, you are so right. Also, if you are not born in the USA and do not have the largest military in the world to back up whatever you want to do who fucking cares about you.... basically what you are saying is who cares you were born in a poor county, next life be born in a richer one SUCKER?!
Are you crazy? We're talking about a fucking VIDEO GAME.
There are people out there who download HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS worth of games, movies and music. Who cares what country they're from? The chances of them actually having that much money to spend are basically zero. But it doesn't matter, because the amount of money you have to spend at any given time impacts the debate exactly zero. It's a product. If you want it, you're supposed to pay for it.
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On November 21 2010 02:35 Half wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2010 02:06 oxxo wrote:On November 17 2010 04:15 Dagon wrote:
THIS IS STUPID! People keep saying that it îs wrong to dowlnoad games.. Well, yes! When a game costs 60 bucks and your sallary îs 2000$, sure.. Fucking buy the game!!
However, Take Romania for example! The medium salary îs fucking 300 bucks, and the games STILL cost 60..
I bought sc2, because i want to play multiplayer, but i download a lot of games that i can play through hamachi or Garena..
It îs just not feasible to purchase every game i want to play here.. Plus, there îs no renting system for games. I don't want to spend 1/4 of my sallary to buy a game that i will play for 20 hours.. This is such warped thinking. It's not your right to have every game you want. I mean seriously, this line of thinking is immature beyond belief. If you can't afford it, then tough. That's life. You honestly willing to condemn a man because hes seeking a similar standard of living albeit being born in a less privileged country, violating no law or other person besides one meant to (but incredibly ineffective at) protect the investments of American stockholders?
Yes, it is unfair. Doesn't make it right though. He can do whatever he wants, there's not much stopping him, but it doesn't change that fact that it should be against the law.
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